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If you must have a petrol zafira then go for the bigger engine as it will be a more relaxed drive and will handle the weight better.
The 1.6 will be caned everywhere as you will need to have your foot welded to the floor to get any decent go from it. You will get no where near the claimed mpg due to you caning the thing. Plus you will get more goodies with the bigger engine.
Personally, I'd have a C-max myself.
The 1.6 will be caned everywhere as you will need to have your foot welded to the floor to get any decent go from it. You will get no where near the claimed mpg due to you caning the thing. Plus you will get more goodies with the bigger engine.
Personally, I'd have a C-max myself.
So you want a s
t car with electric twiddly bits that will use alot of fuel
She wants a st car without twiddly bits that won't use as much fuel
I'm with her choice of st car its not like having a larger engine and electric twiddly bits will elevate a zafira to anything other then a st car
t car with electric twiddly bits that will use alot of fuelShe wants a s
t car without twiddly bits that won't use as much fuelI'm with her choice of s
t car its not like having a larger engine and electric twiddly bits will elevate a zafira to anything other then a st car
thinfourth2 said:
So you want a st car with electric twiddly bits that will use alot of fuel
She wants a st car without twiddly bits that won't use as much fuel
I'm with her choice of st car its not like having a larger engine and electric twiddly bits will elevate a zafira to anything other then a st car
Am relegated to a st car with electric twiddly bits that will use alot of fuelShe wants a s
t car without twiddly bits that won't use as much fuelI'm with her choice of s
t car its not like having a larger engine and electric twiddly bits will elevate a zafira to anything other then a st cart car due to many factors. Just trying to get the least st car I can, or at least one that doesn't feel as st from the inside.Out of the various many seated options out there, what should I be looking for? Six seat minimum, £6500 budget, and as young and unburdened by miles as possible.
I respectfully await the gifts of your wisdom.
Honda FRV CTDI, Fiat Multipla JTD.
If you want 7 seats, then C-Max or Zafira are fine, but get a diesel.
I often get Zafira 1.6 petrols as hire cars (allegedly, they're 'equivalent' to a Passat, according to one of the big Europ-ean Car rental firms) - they're shocking. That 1.6 just isn't equipped to haul a Zafira around.
If you want 7 seats, then C-Max or Zafira are fine, but get a diesel.
I often get Zafira 1.6 petrols as hire cars (allegedly, they're 'equivalent' to a Passat, according to one of the big Europ-ean Car rental firms) - they're shocking. That 1.6 just isn't equipped to haul a Zafira around.
VeeFour said:
Honda FRV CTDI, Fiat Multipla JTD.
If you want 7 seats, then C-Max or Zafira are fine, but get a diesel.
I often get Zafira 1.6 petrols as hire cars (allegedly, they're 'equivalent' to a Passat, according to one of the big Europ-ean Car rental firms) - they're shocking. That 1.6 just isn't equipped to haul a Zafira around.
This is to replace a Multipla. Don't get me wrong, there are many things I like about it, but it feels a bit like running a classic car in terms of repairs expense, without any of the nice bits. So the plan is to get something newer, less painful on the upkeep. In fact am expecting semi serious bills come MOT time in six months, so want to move it on.If you want 7 seats, then C-Max or Zafira are fine, but get a diesel.
I often get Zafira 1.6 petrols as hire cars (allegedly, they're 'equivalent' to a Passat, according to one of the big Europ-ean Car rental firms) - they're shocking. That 1.6 just isn't equipped to haul a Zafira around.
Would like another diesel, but not many within my budget that will be recent enough to warrant the change. Any approaching budget are getting to the point where I start to worry about things like dual mass flywheels.
Wife likes the C-Max, but wants six seats more.
vladcjelli said:
This is to replace a Multipla. Don't get me wrong, there are many things I like about it, but it feels a bit like running a classic car in terms of repairs expense, without any of the nice bits. So the plan is to get something newer, less painful on the upkeep. In fact am expecting semi serious bills come MOT time in six months, so want to move it on.
Isn't the answer just a newer Multipla, though? - and if you don't like that idea, but do like the Multipla, then a Honda FRV has to be top of the list.But as I said, make sure it's a diesel.
VeeFour said:
vladcjelli said:
This is to replace a Multipla. Don't get me wrong, there are many things I like about it, but it feels a bit like running a classic car in terms of repairs expense, without any of the nice bits. So the plan is to get something newer, less painful on the upkeep. In fact am expecting semi serious bills come MOT time in six months, so want to move it on.
Isn't the answer just a newer Multipla, though? - and if you don't like that idea, but do like the Multipla, then a Honda FRV has to be top of the list.But as I said, make sure it's a diesel.
I like the FR-V, but it seems quite a bit smaller than the Multipla, and you pay (nearly) twice as much for a similar age Honda than a Vauxhall.
vladcjelli said:
Not buying a Fiat of this era again. Not had a very nice time with it. Might just have been a lemon, but don't fancy letting myself in for it again.
I like the FR-V, but it seems quite a bit smaller than the Multipla, and you pay (nearly) twice as much for a similar age Honda than a Vauxhall.
Fair enough, if you've been put of Fiats - the Multipla is generally known to be reliable, especially as a diesel.I like the FR-V, but it seems quite a bit smaller than the Multipla, and you pay (nearly) twice as much for a similar age Honda than a Vauxhall.
As for the FRV vs Zafira pricing... that should tell you something
I've just had a 1.8 SRI for two days and what an utter piece of ste. Please go and buy something else for your own sake/sanity.
Gutless engine aside I personally couldn't think of a worse MPV to buy. The seats are rock hard and gave me a bad back over the two days of driving it. I only weigh 75kg and am pretty slim but the seat bolsters were so tight it made driving a pain.
The pedals are at an angle so the clutch is too far forward, whilst the accelerator is too far back. Therefore if you adjust the seat so that you can engage the clutch comfortably you find your right foot is uncomfortably close to the seat. To top it off the brake pedal is mounted too high and the foot rest is joke as there's no room to put your foot on it without clipping the clutch pedal.
For a practical family car it has been so badly designed that some numpty put a cup holder right where the aircraft style handbrake happens to be. Put a bottle in in and it gets knocked over when you pull up the handbrake to park. I guess it's all wasted though as when you put the arm rest down you cannot access the cup holder anyway so is completely useless.
And who the hell thought it was a good idea to put the power socket under the handbrake handle. Stick the SAT NAV plug in there and you'll crack your finger everytime you put the hand brake up/down.
And then there are next to no useful storage areas, the stereo is crap and the sport button does sweet FA.
Otherwise it looks quite nice for an MPV and it's pretty roomy but even my wife hated it.
By comparison I thought the Ford Galaxy was great as is the Honda FRV. I'd even bet a Ford S-Max is way superior and being Ford will handle much better too.
Sorry for the negative post but I was so shocked with how utterly poor the Zafira was I felt I had to try and dissuade you from buying one.
te. Please go and buy something else for your own sake/sanity.Gutless engine aside I personally couldn't think of a worse MPV to buy. The seats are rock hard and gave me a bad back over the two days of driving it. I only weigh 75kg and am pretty slim but the seat bolsters were so tight it made driving a pain.
The pedals are at an angle so the clutch is too far forward, whilst the accelerator is too far back. Therefore if you adjust the seat so that you can engage the clutch comfortably you find your right foot is uncomfortably close to the seat. To top it off the brake pedal is mounted too high and the foot rest is joke as there's no room to put your foot on it without clipping the clutch pedal.
For a practical family car it has been so badly designed that some numpty put a cup holder right where the aircraft style handbrake happens to be. Put a bottle in in and it gets knocked over when you pull up the handbrake to park. I guess it's all wasted though as when you put the arm rest down you cannot access the cup holder anyway so is completely useless.
And who the hell thought it was a good idea to put the power socket under the handbrake handle. Stick the SAT NAV plug in there and you'll crack your finger everytime you put the hand brake up/down.
And then there are next to no useful storage areas, the stereo is crap and the sport button does sweet FA.
Otherwise it looks quite nice for an MPV and it's pretty roomy but even my wife hated it.
By comparison I thought the Ford Galaxy was great as is the Honda FRV. I'd even bet a Ford S-Max is way superior and being Ford will handle much better too.
Sorry for the negative post but I was so shocked with how utterly poor the Zafira was I felt I had to try and dissuade you from buying one.
300bhp/ton said:
vladcjelli said:
Anyone driven something with the Vauxhall 2.2 in it?
Went to look at a couple of Zafiras (stop sniggering at the back) and the higher spec 2.2 Design (auto, damnit) was much nicer inside (leather, glass roof with electric blinds and more) than the poverty spec economical engined ones (mainly 1.6 life, club, exclusiv or similar). Mrs Cjelli put her foot down and categorically stated that we wouldn't be having a gas guzzling 2.2 in the present climate, after the salesman showed us the full colour info screen that was presently reading an economy figure of 28.2mpg.
Care to give me some good reasons for her to change her mind?
Start seriuosly looking at some V8 powered cars or even a used V12 Jag. The 2.2 will suddenly seem quite sensible. Went to look at a couple of Zafiras (stop sniggering at the back) and the higher spec 2.2 Design (auto, damnit) was much nicer inside (leather, glass roof with electric blinds and more) than the poverty spec economical engined ones (mainly 1.6 life, club, exclusiv or similar). Mrs Cjelli put her foot down and categorically stated that we wouldn't be having a gas guzzling 2.2 in the present climate, after the salesman showed us the full colour info screen that was presently reading an economy figure of 28.2mpg.
Care to give me some good reasons for her to change her mind?
vladcjelli said:
thinfourth2 said:
So you want a st car with electric twiddly bits that will use alot of fuel
She wants a st car without twiddly bits that won't use as much fuel
I'm with her choice of st car its not like having a larger engine and electric twiddly bits will elevate a zafira to anything other then a st car
Am relegated to a st car with electric twiddly bits that will use alot of fuelShe wants a s
t car without twiddly bits that won't use as much fuelI'm with her choice of s
t car its not like having a larger engine and electric twiddly bits will elevate a zafira to anything other then a st cart car due to many factors. Just trying to get the least st car I can, or at least one that doesn't feel as st from the inside.Out of the various many seated options out there, what should I be looking for? Six seat minimum, £6500 budget, and as young and unburdened by miles as possible.
I respectfully await the gifts of your wisdom.
test car I've driven for years, so what does he know.cheadle hulme said:
vladcjelli said:
rottie102 said:
How about...growing some balls?
It was the contents, or rather the spillage of such that got me into the position of needing a people carrier.Now I tend to keep them concealed for fear of further trouble.
retrorider said:
cheadle hulme said:
vladcjelli said:
rottie102 said:
How about...growing some balls?
It was the contents, or rather the spillage of such that got me into the position of needing a people carrier.Now I tend to keep them concealed for fear of further trouble.
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