Prepare your eyes - the Chinese are coming!!!
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kambites said:
Seems a bit irrelevant though, since this isn't a Brilliance.
Besides, it still did better than your Saxos did in the same test, and you still seem to be alive.
Meh, the OP said it was a brilliance, so not really irrelevant.Besides, it still did better than your Saxos did in the same test, and you still seem to be alive.
With regard to the Saxo, it was a 20 odd year old design lets not forget. Safety wasn't really big in 1991 before Ncap came along to spoil everything for our french tins!
Edited by DannyVTS on Tuesday 19th April 10:32
DannyVTS said:
Meh, the OP said it was a brilliance, so not really irrelevant.
Oh sorry. I thought it was something else. Still, I doubt it shares many major structural components, so there's no particular reason to believe it will be the same.
The Chinese do still seem to be a few years behind the western world when it comes to car design, but they're catching up at an impressive rate.
kambites said:
Oh sorry. I thought it was something else.
Still, I doubt it shares many major structural components, so there's no particular reason to believe it will be the same.
The Chinese do still seem to be a few years behind the western world when it comes to car design, but they're catching up at an impressive rate.
I agree with you there, SAIC did well with the Rowei brand IMO. Although hearing them call cars Earth/Wind/Fire all the time gets on my nerves!Still, I doubt it shares many major structural components, so there's no particular reason to believe it will be the same.
The Chinese do still seem to be a few years behind the western world when it comes to car design, but they're catching up at an impressive rate.
thinfourth2 said:
Evil.soup said:
If you look past the bling and stupid wheels then the base car has potential to be a good looking car if not a little bland. If its served up really cheap too then the big boys could possibly have to think about it!!
looks past the stupid wheels and its golfJohnnyRims said:
Stick a VW badge on that and people would happily pay 25k and cream themselves over the interior plastics.
Not to mention ignore all manner of turbo failures, plastic water pump disintergrations, repeated coil pack replacements, and general build quality of comparible (or worse) standard to cars costing several thousand pounds less 
k-ink said:
Unless they employ some respected western design houses they will always be turning out hideous products. They are a nation who couldn't design a blank piece of paper.
When was the last time a western car manufacturer produced a good looking hatchback? Probably the Alfa 147 and that was more than ten years ago. kambites said:
When was the last time a western car manufacturer produced a good looking hatchback? Probably the Alfa 147 and that was more than ten years ago. As to cheap euro boxes. The VAG group on the whole manages to create largely acceptable designs. There are not that many hideous lumps on the roads these days. Arguably some are bland, but at least they do not offend.
The Chinese are on their own. Even teenage Russian tuners have a stronger grasp of design tha the Chinese
All of them are bland. Modern hatchbacks are absolutely shocking in their uniformity of design.
Actually come to think of it, maybe they always have been. This car looks no worse than a Golf/Astra/A3/Leon/Guiletta/1-series... to me. Stick a VW badge on the front and no-one would know that it hadn't been designed in Germany.
Actually come to think of it, maybe they always have been. This car looks no worse than a Golf/Astra/A3/Leon/Guiletta/1-series... to me. Stick a VW badge on the front and no-one would know that it hadn't been designed in Germany.
kambites said:
The Rover Streetwise was a good idea, it was just too soon. Look at the number of jacked up FWD hatchbacks with pseudo-offroad bodywork that are on the market and selling well now.
The biggest problem with the Streetwise at the time was that Morris Ital stink of desperation - creating new model using only some plastic trim. If the 25 had been a bit newer and more 'respectable' then it wouldn't have been so laughable. I'd drive a Streetwise, but only one with the optional separate rear seats.
blank said:
The Chinese are still a long way behind in terms of making a vehicle that would be acceptable to a European buyer, but they'll get there.
I'm not sure that they are a long way behind, in terms of what they're capable of. Cars aimed at the Chinese market wont be acceptable here for a while because they currently have different requirements (specifically lower prices and less equipment/"quality") but as and when the Chinese try to build a car for the western markets, I'm sure they'll be able to come up with something competitive. kambites said:
blank said:
The Chinese are still a long way behind in terms of making a vehicle that would be acceptable to a European buyer, but they'll get there.
I'm not sure that they are a long way behind, in terms of what they're capable of. Cars aimed at the Chinese market wont be acceptable here for a while because they currently have different requirements (specifically lower prices and less equipment/"quality") but as and when the Chinese try to build a car for the western markets, I'm sure they'll be able to come up with something competitive. 
The Crack Fox said:
The Chinese aren't coming, theyre staying, the Chinese domestic car Market is the worlds biggest, they don't need to make cars that appeal to westerners. Good job, that thing is wretched !
That's why I like American cars so much (not so much the new ones but the stuff from the 60s and especially the 70s land yachts) - they weren't designed to sell abroad and as such are unique to America - probably why a 20 foot long 70s snotter is still a head turner in the UK!
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