RE: Bristol Cars Saved By Frazer-Nash
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Either I need to meet the whooosh parrot again or you may not know who actually built that car
Rumblestripe said:
Insight said:
Make them like this again... best looking Bristol ever - Bristol Teardrop!
Some wally thought that turning a lovely old Bristol into a Talbot Largo lookalike was a good idea, clearly not!
oilit said:
the proof as they say is in the pudding - afterall, look at all the fraser nash cars you see on the road .................
I suspect they will cease manufacturing the cars, - if you read the press release carefully it does make a lot about existing customers quality care and service...
Afterall from what I have read the service part of the business was profitable.
Regardless, good luck to the 'remaining 4' staff
Actually you see a lot of "Frazer-Nash" cars on the road. AFN, the oldest Porsche concessionaire in the UK stands for Aldington Frazer-Nash (if memory serves) (which is why a Frazer-Nash Continental has 356 doors) and they put a LOT of cars on the roads over the last fifty-seven years.I suspect they will cease manufacturing the cars, - if you read the press release carefully it does make a lot about existing customers quality care and service...
Afterall from what I have read the service part of the business was profitable.
Regardless, good luck to the 'remaining 4' staff
and just to be a wee bit more pedantic, it's not "the proof is in the pudding" it's "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
CampDavid said:
IDrinkPetrol said:
and just to be a wee bit more pedantic, it's not "the proof is in the pudding" it's "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
THANK YOUI actually have to stop myself from punching people who say "the proof is in the pudding."
IDrinkPetrol said:
Actually you see a lot of "Frazer-Nash" cars on the road. AFN, the oldest Porsche concessionaire in the UK stands for Aldington Frazer-Nash (if memory serves) (which is why a Frazer-Nash Continental has 356 doors) and they put a LOT of cars on the roads over the last fifty-seven years.
and just to be a wee bit more pedantic, it's not "the proof is in the pudding" it's "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
AFN was eventually bought by Porsche outright and became Porsche GB I think you will find the guys who have bought Bristol are an EV business - whether they licence or own the FN brand I do not know - but my point is they have not made a single car apart from the concept shown - so not sure I agree with your point - but hey thats ok. (I do agree re the the pudding though - thanks !!)and just to be a wee bit more pedantic, it's not "the proof is in the pudding" it's "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
from what what i understand this is a Singapore dev company with some deep pockets (bankroled in part by Temasek, basically Singapore PLC) that is at a stage where they want to build out their EV.
With any luck I will be seeing some Bristol / Frazer Nash badged Performance and Luxury EV's running around Singapore in the next few years
Either way, great news that the company has been given a new opertunity and hopefully they will be able to hire a few more of teh old staff soon
With any luck I will be seeing some Bristol / Frazer Nash badged Performance and Luxury EV's running around Singapore in the next few years
Either way, great news that the company has been given a new opertunity and hopefully they will be able to hire a few more of teh old staff soon
Stu R said:
A few small niché companies with outdated business models operating in shrinking markets are hardly a representative sample of the bigger picture. Vehicle wise, we make more cars now than we ever have. Foreign ownership might be up significantly, but it's not really the doom and gloom it's widely portrayed as. The key phrase to bear in mind is under-investment. We failed miserably at investing in the future, in technologies and processes. Someone like BMW or Nissan have invested massively in their facilities, R&D and workforce, in a relatively short space of time and continue to develop their products and brand at a blistering rate, but
Bristol are barely a blip on the radar to most people. They liked it that way it seems, but I assume to many people this is the first they've heard of Bristol cars, and the most publicity they've had since ... ever. Factor in increasing costs and [I assume] low sales figures, and it's a wonder they've lasted this long really IMO.
I don't like Bristol's cars, but I'd still rather they were here than not, so the buyout can only be a good thing really. Perhaps now they'll make something I like, much to the dismay of their supporters I suppose
Stu. Here Here.Bristol are barely a blip on the radar to most people. They liked it that way it seems, but I assume to many people this is the first they've heard of Bristol cars, and the most publicity they've had since ... ever. Factor in increasing costs and [I assume] low sales figures, and it's a wonder they've lasted this long really IMO.
I don't like Bristol's cars, but I'd still rather they were here than not, so the buyout can only be a good thing really. Perhaps now they'll make something I like, much to the dismay of their supporters I suppose
AndrewIC said:
Rumblestripe said:
Insight said:
Make them like this again... best looking Bristol ever - Bristol Teardrop!
Some wally thought that turning a lovely old Bristol into a Talbot Largo lookalike was a good idea, clearly not!
Flumpetboy said:
Seems to me that in order to have a fighting chance of survival a specialist (a.k.a. cool/aspirational) British car manufacturer needs to punch at or below £100k.
Anything higher than that is a huge risk.
Aston Martin and Morgan are successful examples of this rule.
Maybe the "upper atmosphere" of Bristol pricing was it's death knell.
I earn well into six figures p.a. yet I wouldn't dream of spending Bristol money (sadly) as there are so many other things also vying for my dosh.
I reckon they could exploit the gapid hole in the market left by the departure of this magnificent beast:Anything higher than that is a huge risk.
Aston Martin and Morgan are successful examples of this rule.
Maybe the "upper atmosphere" of Bristol pricing was it's death knell.
I earn well into six figures p.a. yet I wouldn't dream of spending Bristol money (sadly) as there are so many other things also vying for my dosh.
Four full-sized seats, a massive engine and looks that manage to be aggressive and low-key at the same time. The DB9's rear accommodation isn't big enough and the equivalent Bentleys are too stately in comparison. Something like this would make a lot of sense as a Blenheim replacement. It's main problem would be the Maserati Granturismo, I suppose, but they aren't as rare as they once were, and someone in the market for one of these wouldn't pay the likes of the BMW M6 a second glance.
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