FFS (are people really this stupid?)

FFS (are people really this stupid?)

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Kiltox

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14,621 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Just discovered that one of the work's pool cars (1.4 diesel Fiesta) has been run without an oil filler cap - oil all over the engine bay, front bumper - just about everywhere apart from the sump.

Surely you'd notice this when driving since the oil would ignite on the hot engine?

Are there really people on the roads that are this stupid?

  • no idea where the cap went - it hasn't been in for a service recently as far as I can tell

The Riddler

6,565 posts

198 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Why and how would the oil ignite?

Kiltox

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14,621 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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The Riddler said:
Why and how would the oil ignite?
I was under the impression that if you pour oil onto a hot, open air surface that it'd create smoke?

I'd go and start it up to find out if I didn't think I'd seize the engine and lose my job hehe

GuinnessMK

1,608 posts

223 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Mate of mine took the oil cap off his xflow powered Caterham to top up the level before a blat. Accidentaly left it balanced on the top of one of the carb filters and put the bonnet back on.

20 miles further on, a fair bit of smoke and oil on the windscreen gave him a clue something was up. When he stopped the cap was still there, another quick top up and it was fine.

Easily done.

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

191 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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The Riddler said:
Why and how would the oil ignite?
It will ignite on a hot exhaust manifold...

Kiltox

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14,621 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Weird thing is I can see no proof of Fleet having had it in the past few days and nobody else should be topping up the oil.

Waiting to find out if someone's available to assess the damage today or not (I assume not)

CDP

7,460 posts

255 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Forgetting to refit the cap is pretty easy, my dad did it once. Only for a few minutes as the smell made it pretty obvious there was something wrong and there was hardly any oil loss.


anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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GuinnessMK said:
Mate of mine took the oil cap off his xflow powered Caterham to top up the level before a blat. Accidentaly left it balanced on the top of one of the carb filters and put the bonnet back on.

20 miles further on, a fair bit of smoke and oil on the windscreen gave him a clue something was up. When he stopped the cap was still there, another quick top up and it was fine.

Easily done.
Did something similar about 20 years ago. Smoke coming from under the bonnet at the lights raised my pulse a bit. But no fire. Just a bit of a mess.

busta

4,504 posts

234 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Baz Tench said:
The Riddler said:
Why and how would the oil ignite?
It will ignite on a hot exhaust manifold...
You'd think that but from experience it didn't when I spilt some on my tubular stainless manifold, so I'd be very surprised if it did on a 1.4 Fiesta's cast manifold.

ETA Playing about in the workshop, you can quench red hot steel in oil and it won't ignite. However spray it on in a fine mist and it will ignite more easily. I don't imagine the oil from the rocker cover would be spraying out in a fine mist directly onto the exhaust though.

Edited by busta on Saturday 30th April 09:26

durbster

10,288 posts

223 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I had a job checking over campervans once, and between two of us we used to check oil 20 times a day. Every few days the other fella would leave an oil cap off, and we'd get a call from a customer an hour later saying they'd poured oil all over Mitchell Street in Darwin.

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

191 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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busta said:
Baz Tench said:
The Riddler said:
Why and how would the oil ignite?
It will ignite on a hot exhaust manifold...
You'd think that but from experience it didn't when I spilt some on my tubular stainless manifold, so I'd be very surprised if it did on a 1.4 Fiesta's cast manifold.

ETA Playing about in the workshop, you can quench red hot steel in oil and it won't ignite. However spray it on in a fine mist and it will ignite more easily. I don't imagine the oil from the rocker cover would be spraying out in a fine mist directly onto the exhaust though.

Edited by busta on Saturday 30th April 09:26
I saw it happen once on a mates old Cortina one night. It turned out that his rocker head gasket was almost non-existant (he'd just bought it and he took us for a spin in it). Anyway, it caught fire and we had to piss on it to put it out! laugh

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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It will ignite if it reaches its "flash point" it's how chip pan fires start.

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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It happens. Doesn't mean you're stupid.

Kiltox

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14,621 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I'm just amazed it made it back here unnoticed tbh

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Ford in parts falling off shocker. hehe

Kiltox

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14,621 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Liquid Knight said:
Ford in parts falling off shocker. hehe
rofl

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

158 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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What's far more amazing is that someone driving a pool car seems to have bothered to check the oil. . . . . .

Kiltox

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14,621 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Caulkhead said:
What's far more amazing is that someone driving a pool car seems to have bothered to check the oil. . . . . .
Exactly - I can't work out what's happened. Maybe someone with a Fiesta needed a filler cap rolleyes

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Caulkhead said:
What's far more amazing is that someone driving a pool car seems to have bothered to check the oil. . . . . .
As the driver you are legally responsible for the cars condition. I check everything before I take a pool car out.

Kiltox

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14,621 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Liquid Knight said:
As the driver you are legally responsible for the cars condition. I check everything before I take a pool car out.
Why would someone remove the filler cap to check the oil though? wink (there's no top-up oil available, either)