Overtaking when in a normal, family type car.

Overtaking when in a normal, family type car.

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VeeFour

3,339 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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russy01 said:
I do get angry when I see 520d's though, big old car with the smallest BMW lump.
Also the most tax efficient mid-sized executive car for company car users - and they're not actually that slow, either, with close on 180bhp.

petrolsniffer

2,461 posts

175 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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Tonberry said:
My rules for overtaking are to do it as quickly as possible. If that means exceeding the speed limit for a short while then so be it.

I couldn't give a flying fk what other road users think. They're driving Kia Picantos for a reason you know.
+1

Takes a little planning with my whopping 55bhp it's still possible though biggrin

Wills2

22,943 posts

176 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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I know what OP is talking about, I recently went from a fast daily driver to a 520d, it's just not the same, the overtake isn't as assured the poor little engine is giving its all but there isn't any real shove.

If you are used to a motorbike or sub 5 sec 0-62 car then overtaking in a low powered family car is a real shock.

The best thing to do is adapt your driving to the BHP of the car you're driving and plan ahead.




fluffnik

20,156 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Baryonyx said:
as opposed to lazy BMW style 6th gear overtakes.
confused

I use 3rd for lazy overtakes, 2nd for snappy ones...

In my estate car. smile



Benbay001

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5,801 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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fluffnik said:
Baryonyx said:
as opposed to lazy BMW style 6th gear overtakes.
confused

I use 3rd for lazy overtakes, 2nd for snappy ones...

In my estate car. smile
Maybe he meant overtaking on a motorway? smile
But real petrol heads use second, even for that smile

OldSkoolRS

6,757 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Benbay001 said:
Maybe he meant overtaking on a motorway? smile
But real petrol heads use second, even for that smile
Nah...handbrake a 180 and then overtake them in reverse. smile

Benbay001

Original Poster:

5,801 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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OldSkoolRS said:
Nah...handbrake a 180 and then overtake them in reverse. smile
That could get a little tiresome on busy Mways.

OldSkoolRS

6,757 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Benbay001 said:
That could get a little tiresome on busy Mways.
Yes, tis hard work being 'a real petrolhead' wink

ApexJimi

25,021 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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My sensible car is a 5 door Focus, in which I overtake stuff all the time, so to answer the OP - no, it doesn't.

Jaysus, as if the ubiquitious use of the word "chav" isn't ridiculous enough, you have to use it to pose this idiotic question.


Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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I kind of understand where the OP is coming from.

There is something a little desperate about having to absolutely rag the nuts off a shopping car to get round a vehicle that is doing 10mph less than you'd like to be doing.

In a performance car it's not problem - effortless. But in something underpowered it can seem like you are hell bent on getting round them - it takes a massive amount of effort - and can, to all intents and purposes make you look like a bit of a tool.

At least that's what I think he's getting at. Could be wrong - I often am.

Astra Dan

1,678 posts

185 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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CatfishCKY said:
It's all about momentum and forward planning in low powered cars. I don't think it should make you look like a chav if it is warranted. For no reason, maybe.
I often get funny looks overtaking in a Civic with 'Operated by Hamsters' on the back. I have to always put it in 3rd gear, there's no power in 5th.

Had a good one the other day - two cars doing 35-40 in a 60. I wait until the road is clear, overtake one, and go back into the middle before partaking in the next manouver (sp?), pull in safely, and notice the old boy in the car behind pulling the w@@ker sign at me as I pull away!
I did everything safely, didnt cut them up or anything - not sure why I deserved it? Maybe small penis syndrome, and him not liking a girl in a 1.4 Civic overtaking him!
Maybe he shouldn't have been doing almost half the speed limit in a 60!
Well done! Not wanting to divert this into a sexist rant about men/ women drivers, but I honestly don't think I've ever been overtaken on a single carriage way by a lady driver. On my daily commute on the A272 and A30 I overtake numerous plodders in either my Astra SRI or Astra GTE. As both have (factory) spoilers I assume they think I'm a bit of a maniac or a habitual speeder or something, but I get over it quickly. As said, the main point is to plan it and carry it out safely, then you have nothing to worry about.
It is annoying when a convoy sits behind a slow moving lorry or something without big enough gaps to leap frog in, but then there's no such thing as a 'perfect drive' these days I reckon.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Mr Gearchange said:
There is something a little desperate about having to absolutely rag the nuts off a shopping car to get round a vehicle that is doing 10mph less than you'd like to be doing.
No there isn't.

If your shopping car has sufficient performance to pass a moving obstacle and you don't, that's sad.


gareth.e

2,071 posts

190 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Mr Gearchange said:
I kind of understand where the OP is coming from.

There is something a little desperate about having to absolutely rag the nuts off a shopping car to get round a vehicle that is doing 10mph less than you'd like to be doing.

In a performance car it's not problem - effortless. But in something underpowered it can seem like you are hell bent on getting round them - it takes a massive amount of effort - and can, to all intents and purposes make you look like a bit of a tool.

At least that's what I think he's getting at. Could be wrong - I often am.
Maybe Mr Gearchange needs to change gear more?

Looking at your car list, shifting and a small bit of planning should allow you to overtake smoothly with no problems... I use to manage it fine despite raging its nutz off with a 60 odd bhp heavy corsa down country roads with some planning.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Er yeah - thanks for the input.
I wasn't looking for tips on how to drive - merely providing an empathetic viewpoint to the OP

Benbay001

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5,801 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Mr Gearchange said:
Er yeah - thanks for the input.
I wasn't looking for tips on how to drive - merely providing an empathetic viewpoint to the OP
Dont worry Mr, i see where you are coming from. And i completely agree with you. I suspect the others who claim to have no concern for ragging it past other road users, are also the ones who dont indicate off roundabouts. * Can of worms now open *

Blakewater

4,311 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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OldSkoolRS said:
Blakewater said:
Just put them behind you.
That's what the OP was trying to do in the first place. smile


However, despite my sarcasm I do agree with (the rest of) your post.
I was aiming for a clever double meaning there to refer back to the point of the original question biggrin

6potdave

2,316 posts

214 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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WTF? How can any form of overtaking be classed as 'chavvy'? Would I follow a tractor for miles after mile as not to appear chavvy? No. Too many things are classed as chavvy these days (most I agree with) but overtaking! Lost for words.

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

160 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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OldSkoolRS said:
Nah...handbrake a 180 and then overtake them in reverse. smile
this you by any chance?




Riley Blue

20,988 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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6potdave said:
WTF? How can any form of overtaking be classed as 'chavvy'? Would I follow a tractor for miles after mile as not to appear chavvy? No. Too many things are classed as chavvy these days (most I agree with) but overtaking! Lost for words.
Not only that but the OP also feels paranoid when he does it (see his second post) yet he's an IAM advanced driver. Wonder how he feels when he overtakes a bus - all those people thinking such bad things. It beggars belief.

Boba Fret

438 posts

157 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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LukeSi said:
Do you class a 325d M sport as a normal, family type car?
Yes.

What would you class it as?