Why are all new cars having lights on all the time, EU law?
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kerish.Moley RUFC said:
Wills2 said:
I mostly drive with my dipped beams on, BUT with my nasty LED DRL's off.
Crazy fool! I'm not hugely keen on them on my vRS but I wouldn't go to those lengths. Could also be an insurance grey area.
Wills2 said:
DRL's can be switched off on all cars and so they should be nasty things, no insurance issues AFAIA.
I recall reading on here the other day that they can no longer be switched off on the latest Polos (or at least, it can't be done without equipment any more). I wouldn't be surprised if there are cars where they can't be switched off. Hitler Hadrump said:
I recall reading on here the other day that they can no longer be switched off on the latest Polos (or at least, it can't be done without equipment any more). I wouldn't be surprised if there are cars where they can't be switched off.
Well me and my hammer vote otherwise.I welcome DRLs, purely because of the amount of idiot drivers that don't turn their bloody lights on when there is reduced visability! Once the vehicles around you have their lights on and you don't, then you become invisable. I really can't see a negative point to them, why on earth do people dislike them?
My Golf has driving lights and the manual says they can't be turned off without an engineer disconnecting them, not that I'm bothered. When I sit in front of the garage door and switch from driving lights to sidelights I find the driving lights project less light ahead than the sidelights but look brighter. They're a less direct beam and the light is reflected around the light housing to illuminate the car.
*Al* said:
I welcome DRLs, purely because of the amount of idiot drivers that don't turn their bloody lights on when there is reduced visability! Once the vehicles around you have their lights on and you don't, then you become invisable. I really can't see a negative point to them, why on earth do people dislike them?
It makes anything without lights, horses, pedestrians cyclists relatively less visible.Main concern is motorbikes who already have highest accident rates - they'll become relatively less visible too.
I think I read that in a few states in the US where they tried it the overall accident stats went the wrong way.
Anyone seen figures that shows it's a benefit overall?
*Al* said:
I welcome DRLs, purely because of the amount of idiot drivers that don't turn their bloody lights on when there is reduced visability! Once the vehicles around you have their lights on and you don't, then you become invisable. I really can't see a negative point to them, why on earth do people dislike them?
Particularly in the winter months where grey rainy weather means dipped beams are essential on the motorway.A great many people don't understand (surprised!?) that side/headlights are also there to increase the visibility of one's vehicle to others, not just to see in the dark. Unfortunately, it's a case of 'lowest common denominator motoring'.
The concept is good, the execution less so however. I'm not blinded by new DRLs, however I would say I find them somewhat garish, the current crop of Audis being the worst offenders. The solution presented by Mercedes and Porsche isn't that much better with the strips looking like a somewhat inelegant afterthought.
At the moment (and previously as introduced on the E39) I'd say BMW have got it spot on with the angel eyes, imo the best looking DRL solution currently on the market.
g3org3y said:
Particularly in the winter months where grey rainy weather means dipped beams are essential on the motorway.
A great many people don't understand (surprised!?) that side/headlights are also there to increase the visibility of one's vehicle to others, not just to see in the dark. Unfortunately, it's a case of 'lowest common denominator motoring'.
The concept is good, the execution less so however. I'm not blinded by new DRLs, however I would say I find them somewhat garish, the current crop of Audis being the worst offenders. The solution presented by Mercedes and Porsche isn't that much better with the strips looking like a somewhat inelegant afterthought.
At the moment (and previously as introduced on the E39) I'd say BMW have got it spot on with the angel eyes, imo the best looking DRL solution currently on the market.
If you notice a certain 'type' of DRL ie Audi then they obviously work. I agree about the current BMW Angel eye DRLs, they look very nice. A great many people don't understand (surprised!?) that side/headlights are also there to increase the visibility of one's vehicle to others, not just to see in the dark. Unfortunately, it's a case of 'lowest common denominator motoring'.
The concept is good, the execution less so however. I'm not blinded by new DRLs, however I would say I find them somewhat garish, the current crop of Audis being the worst offenders. The solution presented by Mercedes and Porsche isn't that much better with the strips looking like a somewhat inelegant afterthought.
At the moment (and previously as introduced on the E39) I'd say BMW have got it spot on with the angel eyes, imo the best looking DRL solution currently on the market.
Ari said:
Dr JonboyG said:
WRT mandated features on cars, from next year the US requires all new cars to have stability control I believe, as well as tyre pressure monitors and traction control. Ugh.
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