Newer vs older 911s

Newer vs older 911s

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Ayahuasca

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27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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A 911 has long been on my car bucket list but I had never driven one until the other day when I was lucky enough to drive a few laps of a race circuit in a 2013 Turbo S. I was looking forward to experiencing what 911s were all about. It was mighty fast at both going and stopping, had superglue levels of grip and didn't mind having the accelerator / brake used as alternate on-off neck-snapping switches.

But I wouldn't say it was the most involving car in the world. With its electrickery, paddle shifters, all wheel steering and anti-idiot software it was more like a computer driving game with G forces than what I imagined driving a 911 would be like.

Is it fair to say that the older less advanced models offer a more pure 911 experience?



chfs911

693 posts

227 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Yes! Avoid computer intervention. 3.2 CS is the daddy for around a ton.

For around 120K the 964 RS is not all bad. Then there is the 73RS at up to 500K.

You pay your money and take your pick.

A nice 3.2 Carrera for 20k is a bargain and very rewarding at legal speeds.

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Ayahuasca said:
Is it fair to say that the older less advanced models offer a more pure 911 experience?
Do you really want to open this up again? Does anybody have the stomach for it?

PS - The answer is yes. wink

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Ayahuasca said:
A 911 has long been on my car bucket list but I had never driven one until the other day when I was lucky enough to drive a few laps of a race circuit in a 2013 Turbo S. I was looking forward to experiencing what 911s were all about. It was mighty fast at both going and stopping, had superglue levels of grip and didn't mind having the accelerator / brake used as alternate on-off neck-snapping switches.

But I wouldn't say it was the most involving car in the world. With its electrickery, paddle shifters, all wheel steering and anti-idiot software it was more like a computer driving game with G forces than what I imagined driving a 911 would be like.

Is it fair to say that the older less advanced models offer a more pure 911 experience?
Doest necessarily have to be old.

The most basic 911 has often been the most pure and most fun. In addition, the 911 turbo has always been a very different car to the rest of the range. I view it as almost a different model. This applies with all generations.

But yeah, you have to go back to the old cars at some point to gain a complete understanding of the whole 911 thing.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

215 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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mollytherocker said:
Ayahuasca said:
Is it fair to say that the older less advanced models offer a more pure 911 experience?
Do you really want to open this up again? Does anybody have the stomach for it?

PS - The answer is yes. wink
MTR speaks the truth. The 996 GT3 is pretty raw, but other than that you need to go air cooled. The newer cars do retain a degree of the 911 charisma, but compare a 964 to a 997 or 991 Carrera and it really is a night/day difference. Neither are bad, but they really aren't the same thing at all. in RHD the ergonomics are a lot less compromised in the newer cars though (you can search for legions of threads on that subject as well wink ).

drmark

4,854 posts

187 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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And the older you go the cooler they get. Just sold my oldest one, but this one's not bad either.


schaeffs

325 posts

143 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Sorry but I disagree a little on the "aircooled is best theme" above.

Whilst I hold up my hand as a 997 owner - have driven early 911s, 964, 993, 996, 997 and it's not a "night and day" difference at the watercooled end of the spectrum. You can definitely still feel the 911 experience in a 997 and 996 and understand what makes these cars special just as you can in an earlier aircooled car.

Instead I would say its a "horses for courses" decision when choosing what you want. If you want modernity and daily usability then choose a 996 or 997 (or possibly 993) and you will not be disappointed. If you want a car that gets taken out for Sunday tours and to go to shows and events - then an earlier car may be better suited for you.

As for most car purchases - be honest with yourself about how you are going to use the car and what you really want from it - go out and test drive a lot of them and you should find the car that suits you best. What is great about the 911 is that you have such a vast array of cars that almost certainly one will be a perfect fit for you as a proper sports car.

drmark

4,854 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Agree re 997 - a great drive - but I still think older 911s are much cooler.
Lucky enough to have 997 and some old school pork so not biased!

pete a

3,799 posts

185 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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drmark said:
And the older you go the cooler they get. Just sold my oldest one, but this one's not bad either.

That's wonderful!

drmark

4,854 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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pete a said:
That's wonderful!
Thank you. nono
http://www.impactbumpers.com/forum/index.php?/topi...

Sorry no plugging your wares.

Edited by Big Al. on Sunday 10th November 21:26

Cedric's Dad

91 posts

174 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Just beautiful!!!

drmark

4,854 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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drmark said:
Thank you. nono
http://www.impactbumpers.com/forum/index.php?/topi...

Sorry no plugging your wares.

Edited by Big Al. on Sunday 10th November 21:26
Bang to rights. Sorry.

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