If you have a 991 Turbo make sure you don't kerb the alloys!

If you have a 991 Turbo make sure you don't kerb the alloys!

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Markbarry1977

4,083 posts

104 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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mischaRS said:
Simple solution, fantastic product---- Alloygator !!
Yep I did 16 miles in my car from dealer to alloygator place. Bloody fantastic. £100 a set fitted.

Geoff39GL

573 posts

137 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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md4776 said:
I think you're describing the turbo II alloys which I have on a 987 cayman. I've done a little reading and asking around as one of mine needs refurbed as it's corroding under the lacquer. It's not just these 'porsche' alloys , diamond cut is now being used on many cars to create interesting designs. The places that do refurb them rarely offer a lasting guarantee as the lacquer doesn't adhere well to the surface.

Can't vouch for the services they sell as not used them but these guys have a good overview and FAQ

https://www.thewheelspecialist.co.uk/wheel-finishe...
I used the Wheelspecialist in Nottingham for a kerb scuff on the diamond cut wheels on my A45 and they did a good job would use again.

Green1man

549 posts

89 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Markbarry1977 said:
Yep I did 16 miles in my car from dealer to alloygator place. Bloody fantastic. £100 a set fitted.
From the alloygator website:

The “AlloyGator” alloy wheel rim protectors are not recommended for machine polished or diamond cut alloy wheels. Although fitting the product will provide superior protection against kerb damage, due to existing imperfections in the lacquered wheel surface our product may increase the risk of moisture retention and accelerate wheel degradation.


dazzpowder

19 posts

156 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Lordglenmorangie said:
A couple of grand, and yes you can refurb them biggrin

They look good what make and model are they. Looking to replace my standard gts wheels (5 stud)

Pope

2,641 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Biggest issue with the 991 Turbo S wheels is that the spokes have an embossed look - the spokes run out to the edges and the rim is recessed - the slightest contact can easily chew 2-3mm gouges that rule out refurbing. The diamond cut process reprofiles the spokes and the definition is lost; sometimes entirely. Fine if you want to change the design of the wheel but then you'll have to do all 4 to match and be left with wheels that aren't original spec.


Slippydiff

14,861 posts

224 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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dazzpowder said:
Lordglenmorangie said:
A couple of grand, and yes you can refurb them biggrin

They look good what make and model are they. Looking to replace my standard gts wheels (5 stud)
https://bbs.com/en/products/performance_line/ch-r.php

dazzpowder

19 posts

156 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Thanks slippydiff

Adz The Rat

14,147 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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efresh said:
hi,I'm new here

i have the same diamond cut wheels as the picture on a 991 turbo.i need them referring any recommendations for somewhere in manchester

thanks
WRC in Preston.

lingus75

1,698 posts

223 months

Wednesday 5th July 2017
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Just had OPC refurb a wheel on my 997.1 turbo and really unhappy with the outcome. Especially as I now know this one of the two chances for a refurb before a new 1k+ wheel is needed.

Looks like it was really rushed. The stark difference is between the first three pics which are the original finish and the rest which are the crap refurb.

https://image.ibb.co/eXkqea/IMG_0538.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/g7MwKa/IMG_0537.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/cSfCsv/IMG_0536.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/dK8MkF/IMG_0535.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/dFCmKa/IMG_0533.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/jBk6Ka/IMG_0531.jpg


andyglos

271 posts

203 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Hi Lingus,

They don't look brilliant. Is it concentric circles/marks that I can see on the face of the wheels? Where did you get them done? At least you got them done thro the OPC so the responsibility belongs to them as opposed to getting into a spat with a wheel repair outfit.

I had a repair carried out by an outfit in Tewkesbury after a careless tyre fitter repaired a tyre and left a gouge on the face of the wheel; carefully covered up with the soapy stuff they use. It was a very good repair on the wheel and blended in exceptionally well.

I would be going back to the OPC.........

moonigan

2,145 posts

242 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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lingus75 said:
Just had OPC refurb a wheel on my 997.1 turbo and really unhappy with the outcome. Especially as I now know this one of the two chances for a refurb before a new 1k+ wheel is needed.

Looks like it was really rushed. The stark difference is between the first three pics which are the original finish and the rest which are the crap refurb.

https://image.ibb.co/eXkqea/IMG_0538.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/g7MwKa/IMG_0537.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/cSfCsv/IMG_0536.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/dK8MkF/IMG_0535.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/dFCmKa/IMG_0533.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/jBk6Ka/IMG_0531.jpg
That's shocking. I'd be going back and asking for a new wheel.

EGTE

996 posts

183 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Slippydiff said:
dazzpowder said:
Lordglenmorangie said:
A couple of grand, and yes you can refurb them biggrin

They look good what make and model are they. Looking to replace my standard gts wheels (5 stud)
https://bbs.com/en/products/performance_line/ch-r.php
Does look good. But then every single car I've ever seen with BBS CHs on looks good! The are a fab-looking wheel. Quite heavy though, I believe.

lingus75

1,698 posts

223 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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andyglos said:
Hi Lingus,

They don't look brilliant. Is it concentric circles/marks that I can see on the face of the wheels? Where did you get them done? At least you got them done thro the OPC so the responsibility belongs to them as opposed to getting into a spat with a wheel repair outfit.

I had a repair carried out by an outfit in Tewkesbury after a careless tyre fitter repaired a tyre and left a gouge on the face of the wheel; carefully covered up with the soapy stuff they use. It was a very good repair on the wheel and blended in exceptionally well.

I would be going back to the OPC.........
Plot thickens...... after speaking the opc owned wheel centre I was told by the chap, that it was to be expected that marks would occur. 'The metal flying around in the machine can't be stopped, and this is what causes the scratches' I thought this a bad response, but nothing compares to what he said next....

'We have only been doing this for 3-5 months so we are learning on the job' WT ACTUAL F!!! Called opc straight away after sending pics in which they agreed weren't good. I stated calmly that my car should not be used as a training tool, if they need to practice use one of their own cars, or a stock wheel etc....

Opc said I need to wait for the wheel centre manager to come back from annual leave which I am not happy about. I don't want them to touch my wheels again, so have asked for a resolution from aftersales manager this week.

Shocked to say the least.

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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lingus75 said:
andyglos said:
Hi Lingus,

They don't look brilliant. Is it concentric circles/marks that I can see on the face of the wheels? Where did you get them done? At least you got them done thro the OPC so the responsibility belongs to them as opposed to getting into a spat with a wheel repair outfit.

I had a repair carried out by an outfit in Tewkesbury after a careless tyre fitter repaired a tyre and left a gouge on the face of the wheel; carefully covered up with the soapy stuff they use. It was a very good repair on the wheel and blended in exceptionally well.

I would be going back to the OPC.........
Plot thickens...... after speaking the opc owned wheel centre I was told by the chap, that it was to be expected that marks would occur. 'The metal flying around in the machine can't be stopped, and this is what causes the scratches' I thought this a bad response, but nothing compares to what he said next....

'We have only been doing this for 3-5 months so we are learning on the job' WT ACTUAL F!!! Called opc straight away after sending pics in which they agreed weren't good. I stated calmly that my car should not be used as a training tool, if they need to practice use one of their own cars, or a stock wheel etc....

Opc said I need to wait for the wheel centre manager to come back from annual leave which I am not happy about. I don't want them to touch my wheels again, so have asked for a resolution from aftersales manager this week.

Shocked to say the least.
I don't know a lot about machining alloy wheels, specifically, but I do know a little about CNC machine tools - one of my businesses recently added it's third Mazak.

With the right machine, tools and coolant - preferably high-pressure, through-tool coolant - chip removal should not be an issue.

Edited by Digga on Thursday 6th July 15:32

lingus75

1,698 posts

223 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Opc called and a new wheel to be fitted on Saturday and an apology.

All good in the end, but I won't be using them for wheels in the future!!

andyglos

271 posts

203 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Sounds like a good result.

Get them to refurb the other 3 wheels too..... if they screw up you might end up with a complete new set of wheels! smile

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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A sad state of affairs.

But, ultimately, we should all have learned by now that you really cannot trust OPCs with anything but the most basic work. They charge the Earth and cock it up.

Durzel

12,286 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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OPCs sub work out to whoever they have relationships with, and those people are (usually) places you can just walk in off the street and get a quote from for the same job and as such are as good or bad as any other place really.

Since OPCs would more than likely work on economies of scale, and turnaround time I'd say most places they sub work out to are statistically less likely to be as... thorough.. as places that do less volume and/or higher per-job cost.

I found out to my cost getting an Aerokit fitted to my Cayman that the "OPC approved bodyshop" were no guarantee of quality, as I had to go back to them twice to get it done properly (the first time I tried to pick the car up they'd actually missed an entire part of the lower trim, which was still just primer. To this day I have no idea how this could've possibly happened).

Cheib

23,290 posts

176 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Durzel said:
I found out to my cost getting an Aerokit fitted to my Cayman that the "OPC approved bodyshop" were no guarantee of quality, as I had to go back to them twice to get it done properly (the first time I tried to pick the car up they'd actually missed an entire part of the lower trim, which was still just primer. To this day I have no idea how this could've possibly happened).
There's a small list of bodyshop's that are Porsche GB approved

http://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/po...

I tried two of them for a small amount of repair work to our Cayenne (thanks Mrs Cheib). One quoted £4,000 and wanted the car for two weeks and the other despite chasing twice and having been recommended by the local OPC failed to come up with a quote. Went to two independents (one was Finishline in Herts who are highly recommended on here) who both quoted circa £1500 and four days work.

I am guessing the Porsche GB approved ones have so much work they don't really care. Although both independent's I went to aren't struggling either...both were booking cars in for two months subsequent.

Millwallmart

3 posts

148 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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mischaRS said:
Simple solution, fantastic product---- Alloygator !!
hahahahahaha!