Porsche 993 cab tip still more than £25....
Discussion
I have an '89 C2 targa, it's averaged 6,000 miles pa, but still considered intergalactic mileage. In terms of prices I doubt anyone would want to part with 20k for it, however for me in terms of what I could replace it with in terms of a 4-seat, open-top, involving, emotional drivers car - I wouldn't sell it for 50k as there's simply no replacement.
If this is the type of car you want to drive - get one, 20k+ is the same price as a tinselled Golf - what would you rather have...
If this is the type of car you want to drive - get one, 20k+ is the same price as a tinselled Golf - what would you rather have...
YoungMD said:
I would imagine you would get £25k without too much trouble, as you say it's a funny market but clean cars are selling for that at least, especially c2 manuals which sell way way quicker than the cab or rolling green house (targa)
Just to confirm mine's a Cab so prob more like £23k or so I reckon based on the above! Anyway, gratuitous pic of the old girl (desperately in need of a clean!) at the campsite tonight 
bottle of wine at the campsite restaurant was €3.50....get in! (And it was drinkable 
)
Edited for drunky spelling and grammar....
Why aren't you parking the car in the tent and sleeping outside !!! Very nice car though
Mileage is a funny thing, it completely sets the price, buy on condition may sound great but people don't it's as simple as that. A 60k 993 would cost you well in advance of 30k, it may cost another 10k to get it right due to clutch, suspension and so on that may well need doing even if it is only 60k, but a 150k miler with all the suspension and everything done would probably not sell for much more than 25k...... There you go, don't buy a car with high mileage it's as programmed into us as don't go shopping with a women as both end in loads of money and frustration .......
Mileage is a funny thing, it completely sets the price, buy on condition may sound great but people don't it's as simple as that. A 60k 993 would cost you well in advance of 30k, it may cost another 10k to get it right due to clutch, suspension and so on that may well need doing even if it is only 60k, but a 150k miler with all the suspension and everything done would probably not sell for much more than 25k...... There you go, don't buy a car with high mileage it's as programmed into us as don't go shopping with a women as both end in loads of money and frustration .......
Mario149 said:
Just to confirm mine's a Cab so prob more like £23k or so I reckon based on the above! Anyway, gratuitous pic of the old girl (desperately in need of a clean!) at the campsite tonight bottle of wine at the campsite restaurant was €3.50....get in! (And it was drinkable )
Edited for drunky spelling and grammar....
Lovely, and the great thing being should you decide to sell you'll probably get back every penny you've spent on it, enjoy the vin bottle of wine at the campsite restaurant was €3.50....get in! (And it was drinkable )Edited for drunky spelling and grammar....
People (including myself) are holding on to these cars as they will not depreciate any longer and once the obvious issues have been addressed these cars are cheap to keep on the road so personally i don't think that the prices will come down significantly from hereon. You can wait for the winter lull in cabrio prices but then you have missed 6 months of driving.
YoungMD said:
Why aren't you parking the car in the tent and sleeping outside !!! Very nice car though
Mileage is a funny thing, it completely sets the price, buy on condition may sound great but people don't it's as simple as that. A 60k 993 would cost you well in advance of 30k, it may cost another 10k to get it right due to clutch, suspension and so on that may well need doing even if it is only 60k, but a 150k miler with all the suspension and everything done would probably not sell for much more than 25k...... There you go, don't buy a car with high mileage it's as programmed into us as don't go shopping with a women as both end in loads of money and frustration .......
Mileage is the best standalone indicator of the condition of a car - a 150k car is much more likely to need other components refreshing/replacing than a 60k car.Mileage is a funny thing, it completely sets the price, buy on condition may sound great but people don't it's as simple as that. A 60k 993 would cost you well in advance of 30k, it may cost another 10k to get it right due to clutch, suspension and so on that may well need doing even if it is only 60k, but a 150k miler with all the suspension and everything done would probably not sell for much more than 25k...... There you go, don't buy a car with high mileage it's as programmed into us as don't go shopping with a women as both end in loads of money and frustration .......
N24 said:
I have an '89 C2 targa, it's averaged 6,000 miles pa, but still considered intergalactic mileage. In terms of prices I doubt anyone would want to part with 20k for it, however for me in terms of what I could replace it with in terms of a 4-seat, open-top, involving, emotional drivers car - I wouldn't sell it for 50k as there's simply no replacement.
If this is the type of car you want to drive - get one, 20k+ is the same price as a tinselled Golf - what would you rather have...
I'm really beginning to love the older Porsches (despite knowing relatively little about them I hasten to add), while I love modern performance, as I get a little more mature (32 summers and counting) it has been starting to dawn on me for a while that the older stuff is becoming (to me) very desirable. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if I ended up swapping the 993 for a 964 at a later date and worked backwards from there. If this is the type of car you want to drive - get one, 20k+ is the same price as a tinselled Golf - what would you rather have...
hornbaek said:
People (including myself) are holding on to these cars as they will not depreciate any longer and once the obvious issues have been addressed these cars are cheap to keep on the road so personally i don't think that the prices will come down significantly from hereon. You can wait for the winter lull in cabrio prices but then you have missed 6 months of driving.
Depreciation is low, but prices of standard cars are likely to see a correction at some point, they're riding on the coat tails of the blue chip cars. These cars certainly aren't cheap to keep on the road. You may go through a couple of years of cheap motoring but there's always a potential large bill around the corner.
If you don't use it enough it'll be engine seals and niggles, if you use it it'll be general wear and tear.
youngsyr said:
Mileage is the best standalone indicator of the condition of a car - a 150k car is much more likely to need other components refreshing/replacing than a 60k car.
I would agree with that if we were talking about say 100k miles, and I can totally see where you're coming from. However, by the time you're getting to 150k miles, I'd argue that the cars at that mileage are a bit digital. You're either:1) going to get something that's had the bare minimum done to it for its age etc and will be cheap (or worth substantially less) for a reason ( or several)
or
2) going to get one that to a slightly greater or lesser extent has been looked after commensurate with it's age/mileage and is priced more firmly
I'm on my 5th car or so in recent history that's been over 10 years old and/or high mileage for its marque and can honestly say that there's always *something* that needs doing to them. So in reality, I take my cars in for a checkover (and service as necessary) and some minor TLC every 6 months and before a road trip in them, currently: 993 has a squeaky rattly bit on the roof mechanism and in need of a clutch when I get home, Mini also needs a clutch soon and the 550 has a suspension "creak". And no doubt as soon as I have had those bits sorted some other random stuff will raise it's head, it's just all par for the course when running old cars....
Apart from the Toyota MR2, that's needed absolutely nothing other than an O2 sensor apart from routine servicing/maintenance over 10 years (first with friends who owned it previously, now with us)....I swear on my life it's black magic!!
If you want a decent air cooled car you have to cough up Im afraid. And I don't see any reason for that to change any time soon. Talk of bubbles is fantasy. Wait, and you will pay more. There are more buyers than cars and I see that ratio increasing.
There are many owners, like myself, who are hanging on to their cars because they love them, and there is no natural next step. The obvious one is the GT3 and they are going crazy too! I can assure you thats no bubble either!
Its just the market I'm afraid.
There are many owners, like myself, who are hanging on to their cars because they love them, and there is no natural next step. The obvious one is the GT3 and they are going crazy too! I can assure you thats no bubble either!
Its just the market I'm afraid.
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