LSD in 997 GTS

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jackwood

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209 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has any info on what the diff is in a 997 GTS with -20mm sport PASM and locking diff.
Is it the same as the 997 GT3?
Gearbox is out at the moment so would make sense to do the diff at the same time.
Jack

chrisABP

1,112 posts

149 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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Gearbox out Jack! What's going on?

Chris

jackwood

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209 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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New clutch being fitted.

c4sman

759 posts

155 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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What mileage did the clutch go if you don't mind me asking?

c4sman

759 posts

155 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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What mileage did the clutch go if you don't mind me asking?

fioran0

2,410 posts

173 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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The gearbox is the Aisin made unit. Theres no clutch pack available either from Porsche of aftermarket for the LSD in these things. Porsche also won't simply sell a replacement LSD either. I guess you are meant to buy a whole new gearbox tongue out
On the plus side the LSD is there to look good on paper rather than actually doing much as is the way of much of the newer cars. The electronics are meant to do its job in the main so its there simply to put a curl in peoples beards.

I believe that you can put a replacement unit from guard in though if you are serious about it.

jackwood

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209 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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Neil, thanks for that. So basically when it's worn out, that's it. Either replace it with another unit or let it run as an open diff?
Any data on what the pre-loads and ramps are on it, anyway?

The car has 45k on it. I look it in because of occasional graunching from 1st to 2nd. First plan of action is to replace the clutch.

fioran0

2,410 posts

173 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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No Problem.

Yes, thats the case at the moment. Once its done you run it as an open diff or replace the whole LSD.
The comment about replacing the whole transmission was partially in jest but AFAIK Porsche don't list an LSD for that gearbox so who knows what you are meant to do in this case if you physically need to stick with Porsche parts.

I suppose the real answer to that leads into the reply to the second part of your question.

As for preload and ramp rate, I assume its the same spec as the LSD used in the Caymans etc etc. This is a zero preload diff (i.e. it has no preload at all) and the ramps are essentially nothing. This LSD is not designed to actually do much in the way of any locking up - so presumably this is how one gets round the wearing out issue and the replacement issue.
It won't wear out as it does nothing in the first place and with zero preload there will be no way to test if its actually worn. Simple!!

Its really just there to look good on the spec sheet. The electronics are doing the diff work via traction/braking things.

jackwood

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Sunday 14th December 2014
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Ok, that all makes perfect sense.
I'll have a look at the Guard stuff and see if they do a replacement.
So even with PSM switched off it's mainly the electronics controlling braking, etc that acts as the diff?

jackwood

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209 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Well that solved that issue!
New gearbox (including diff) goin into the car later this week. Apparently Porsche supply the gearbox complete with diff unit to replace the old unit.
Thank god for that warranty!

keep it lit

3,388 posts

168 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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err..... result smile

fioran0

2,410 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Thats good news (for you).
Its a little unnerving that my conclusion (based on there being no part listing for the LSD or repair components) that to replace the diff would seem to require one to just buy a new gearbox was actually the resolution.

jackwood

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209 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Well it was actually a gearbox issue and I get a free new diff! Not visa versa smile

fioran0

2,410 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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hahaha.... thats marginally better, though it does ruin an excellent story.