991 GT3 Clutch Kick. Is anyone using it?
Discussion
5517 said:
This pulling both paddles for clutch in is really confusing me.
I just cant work out when and how to use it.
My brain just cant convert what could be done with a pedal in to what can be done with a paddle.
Any thoughts?
Its quite straightforward to use, but my advice before your practice is to find somewhere with plenty of runoff space...!I just cant work out when and how to use it.
My brain just cant convert what could be done with a pedal in to what can be done with a paddle.
Any thoughts?
utgjon said:
1. Drive along road
2. Wind windows down
3. Enter tunnel
4. Pull both paddles
5. Use accelerator pedal liberally
6. Pull both paddles
7. Exit Tunnel
8. Wind windows back up.
Yes, that seems to be what most will use it for or you can just knock into neutral for same effect.2. Wind windows down
3. Enter tunnel
4. Pull both paddles
5. Use accelerator pedal liberally
6. Pull both paddles
7. Exit Tunnel
8. Wind windows back up.
I guess this feature that AP felt so important has no real world use?
I tried something with it today and it certainly wasnt mechanically sympathetic.
It is basically an invention purely for Chris Harris, so he didn't have a go at the lack of manual.
Having said that, will definitely have a cheeky few gos on european trackdays to hone my drifting. Can't do it in the UK anymore; you just get black flagged.
I suppose a few years down the line in adverts it'll be about having a car with no clutch kicks logged
Having said that, will definitely have a cheeky few gos on european trackdays to hone my drifting. Can't do it in the UK anymore; you just get black flagged.
I suppose a few years down the line in adverts it'll be about having a car with no clutch kicks logged
A clutch kick in a manual car involves revving the engine quite high with the clutch down then abruptly clutch kicking (release or dumping the clutch). This allows you to easily power slide a car when there otherwise wouldn't be enough space to get the revs up to do so.
This feature of the 991 GT3 does sound pretty cool, but despite being even easier than a manual car, I'd expect the number of owners who could use it effectively to be very small indeed.
This feature of the 991 GT3 does sound pretty cool, but despite being even easier than a manual car, I'd expect the number of owners who could use it effectively to be very small indeed.
Olivera said:
This feature of the 991 GT3 does sound pretty cool, but despite being even easier than a manual car, I'd expect the number of owners who could use it effectively to be very small indeed.
It appears to be none!!!Not one person has replied who has 991 GT3 and uses/knows how to use it.
Not one video of it on You tube.
Hardly a mention via Google.
Ive played with it a little more today and still have no idea at all how to do anything with it and before the idiot who doesn't give driving lessons pops up again I am a very experienced driver so I can tell you there's nothing obvious or simple about it.
Anybody?
Ive found someone....
Richard Hammond.
He says...
"The gearbox does, however, have a very good party trick: Porsche calls it “paddle neutral function”. First, disengage the traction control, then pull back on both steering wheel-mounted paddles and both the clutches in the gearbox will disengage. You then rev the engine to its redline and release both paddles.
The result is an explosion of tyre smoke from the back of the car, crazy wheelspin, two black lines in the road and £250 worth of tyre wear in a couple of seconds"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/motoring/car-rev...
Richard Hammond.
He says...
"The gearbox does, however, have a very good party trick: Porsche calls it “paddle neutral function”. First, disengage the traction control, then pull back on both steering wheel-mounted paddles and both the clutches in the gearbox will disengage. You then rev the engine to its redline and release both paddles.
The result is an explosion of tyre smoke from the back of the car, crazy wheelspin, two black lines in the road and £250 worth of tyre wear in a couple of seconds"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/motoring/car-rev...
5517 said:
Olivera said:
This feature of the 991 GT3 does sound pretty cool, but despite being even easier than a manual car, I'd expect the number of owners who could use it effectively to be very small indeed.
It appears to be none!!!Not one person has replied who has 991 GT3 and uses/knows how to use it.
Not one video of it on You tube.
Hardly a mention via Google.
Ive played with it a little more today and still have no idea at all how to do anything with it and before the idiot who doesn't give driving lessons pops up again I am a very experienced driver so I can tell you there's nothing obvious or simple about it.
Anybody?
I replied to your post in ways to use it, I can't see what you are not getting
Or to make it even easier to understand. Watch this video from 3 minutes 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECATvlRf3ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECATvlRf3ls
Scott Parker said:
Sorry but your either very naïve or thick and by calling members on here that are trying to help you use a simple feature an idiot will get you nowhere im afraid!
I replied to your post in ways to use it, I can't see what you are not getting
My apologies to you Scott, you did reply. Thank you.I replied to your post in ways to use it, I can't see what you are not getting
Im not thick or Naive, I was having a go at the guy who felt that posting
"Im not giving driving lessons" was some how constructive.
Back to yor point Scott about what Im not getting.
Im not getting any real world use for the feature that AP seemed so proud of and felt essential for the GT3 PDK.
I hear how you use it but im not sure thats why its there.
5517 said:
Scott Parker said:
Sorry but your either very naïve or thick and by calling members on here that are trying to help you use a simple feature an idiot will get you nowhere im afraid!
I replied to your post in ways to use it, I can't see what you are not getting
My apologies to you Scott, you did reply. Thank you.I replied to your post in ways to use it, I can't see what you are not getting
Im not thick or Naive, I was having a go at the guy who felt that posting
"Im not giving driving lessons" was some how constructive.
Back to yor point Scott about what Im not getting.
Im not getting any real world use for the feature that AP seemed so proud of and felt essential for the GT3 PDK.
I hear how you use it but im not sure thats why its there.
second best thing if you like!btw, I'm glad you're not thick
As someone peeking in through the window of the 991 two things always struck me as odd with the this feature.
It always struck me as odd firstly that the both paddles neutral feature (this is what clutch kick is right?) was even mentioned. This seems to be a standard feature on paddle shift cars i have driven and has never warranted a special mention from those manufacturers.
The second was that upon deciding to mention it, the situation that it is obviously most useful in gets no mention anywhere. Instead just that ridiculous clip where AP discusses dropping the clutch to let him go sideways in second gear in the rain!!!
It would seem to me that the ability to save the engine and gearbox by hitting neutral in the event of a spin on track would be something they would want to remind owners. Going backwards in a car that has up until that moment being going forwards, with the engine and gearbox still connected is great for lightening the wallet but not much else.
It always struck me as odd firstly that the both paddles neutral feature (this is what clutch kick is right?) was even mentioned. This seems to be a standard feature on paddle shift cars i have driven and has never warranted a special mention from those manufacturers.
The second was that upon deciding to mention it, the situation that it is obviously most useful in gets no mention anywhere. Instead just that ridiculous clip where AP discusses dropping the clutch to let him go sideways in second gear in the rain!!!
It would seem to me that the ability to save the engine and gearbox by hitting neutral in the event of a spin on track would be something they would want to remind owners. Going backwards in a car that has up until that moment being going forwards, with the engine and gearbox still connected is great for lightening the wallet but not much else.
Edited by fioran0 on Monday 19th January 20:01
5517 said:
My apologies to you Scott, you did reply. Thank you.
Im not thick or Naive, I was having a go at the guy who felt that posting
"Im not giving driving lessons" was some how constructive.
Back to yor point Scott about what Im not getting.
Im not getting any real world use for the feature that AP seemed so proud of and felt essential for the GT3 PDK.
I hear how you use it but im not sure thats why its there.
I guess the point is that if you don't know what you'd use a 'clutch kick' for in a manual car then you're unlikely to be someone who tries this in a PDK GT3.Im not thick or Naive, I was having a go at the guy who felt that posting
"Im not giving driving lessons" was some how constructive.
Back to yor point Scott about what Im not getting.
Im not getting any real world use for the feature that AP seemed so proud of and felt essential for the GT3 PDK.
I hear how you use it but im not sure thats why its there.
I'm hoping to try this out at my PEC day next month.
fioran0 said:
As someone peeking in through the window of the 991 two things always struck me as odd with the this feature.
It always struck me as odd firstly that the both paddles neutral feature (this is what clutch kick is right?) was even mentioned. This seems to be a standard feature on paddle shift cars i have driven and has never warranted a special mention from those manufacturers.
The second was that upon deciding to mention it, the situation that it is obviously most useful in gets no mention anywhere. Instead just that ridiculous clip where AP discusses dropping the clutch to let him go sideways in second gear in the rain!!!
It would seem to me that the ability to save the engine and gearbox by hitting neutral in the event of a spin on track would be something they would want to remind owners. Going backwards in a car that has up until that moment being going forwards, with the engine and gearbox still connected is great for lightening the wallet but not much else.
"In a spin, both feet in"It always struck me as odd firstly that the both paddles neutral feature (this is what clutch kick is right?) was even mentioned. This seems to be a standard feature on paddle shift cars i have driven and has never warranted a special mention from those manufacturers.
The second was that upon deciding to mention it, the situation that it is obviously most useful in gets no mention anywhere. Instead just that ridiculous clip where AP discusses dropping the clutch to let him go sideways in second gear in the rain!!!
It would seem to me that the ability to save the engine and gearbox by hitting neutral in the event of a spin on track would be something they would want to remind owners. Going backwards in a car that has up until that moment being going forwards, with the engine and gearbox still connected is great for lightening the wallet but not much else.
Edited by fioran0 on Monday 19th January 20:01
"In a spin in a 991 GT3, pull both the paddles back" - not as catchy
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