991 GT3 Clutch Kick. Is anyone using it?

[IREvans]

5517 said:

My apologies to you Scott, you did reply. Thank you.

Im not thick or Naive, I was having a go at the guy who felt that posting
"Im not giving driving lessons" was some how constructive.

Back to yor point Scott about what Im not getting.
Im not getting any real world use for the feature that AP seemed so proud of and felt essential for the GT3 PDK.

I hear how you use it but im not sure thats why its there.

I didn't mean to be facetious, the "not giving driving lessons" comment was said with a wink...!

One purpose of disengaging the clutch via the paddles in the 991 GT3 is to momentarily break traction, and allow the rear of the car to rotate. Its exactly the same as dipping the clutch with lots of throttle aggressively in a RWD manual car

There was a degree of seriousness about the "not giving driving lessons" comment anyway, I wouldn't want to repeat personal experience of how and when to use the clutch kick, only for someone to try and copy it and crash..! Which is why I'd suggest finding a deserted test track to practice

[fioran0]

ClarkPB said:

"In a spin, both feet in"

"In a spin in a 991 GT3, pull both the paddles back" - not as catchy

LOL,
"Code Brown, both paddles down" ?

[5517]

IREvans said:

I didn't mean to be facetious, the "not giving driving lessons" comment was said with a wink...!

One purpose of disengaging the clutch via the paddles in the 991 GT3 is to momentarily break traction, and allow the rear of the car to rotate. Its exactly the same as dipping the clutch with lots of throttle aggressively in a RWD manual car

There was a degree of seriousness about the "not giving driving lessons" comment anyway, I wouldn't want to repeat personal experience of how and when to use the clutch kick, only for someone to try and copy it and crash..! Which is why I'd suggest finding a deserted test track to practice

Thank you.

Sorry, I missed the wink

I think ive just got a foot to hand mental block on this.
Ive been driving paddle shift for quite a few years now.

[5517]

Scott Parker said:

I use it quite a bit but mainly when coming to a stop or over speed bumps to smooth out the jerkiness so in effect im coasting.
Its also handy for pulling away at more than tick over for when you are going slowly towards a round-a-bout and need to pull on to it with a bit more oomph

The Speed bump thing is great,tried it tonight. Thank you, much better.

[5517]

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

"There are quirks, like the 'paddle neutral' ability to open the clutches by pulling both shifters together. Porsche says this can "neutralise the driving behaviour of the vehicle when oversteering in a wet curve by pulling the paddles, thus redirecting the additional cornering force to the wheels of the rear axle." If anyone can explain the logic of what seems like dipping the clutch mid-oversteer situation I'd love to hear from you; for all the opportunities to try it my hands and head are too full for experimentation"

[ArcticGT3]

I just can't see how anyone could hold both paddles while twirling the wheel or loosening their grip especially in an oversteer situation. It'd be more effective to try and lock the front wheels with your Left foot if it's still rotating ?

Unless Porsche are assuming it's going to end up rolling backwards

[5517]

Paddle Neutral
The “Paddle Neutral” function is based on the function of a clutch pedal on vehicles
with manual transmission. On the new 911 GT3, this decoupling function can also be
used for influencing driving dynamics individually, irrespective of the driving situation
and the engaged gear.
The Paddle Neutral function is activated by pulling and holding both shift paddles on
the steering wheel at the same time. This opens the clutches of the Porsche Doppelkupplung
(PDK) and interrupts the flow of power between the engine and the drive
system. When both shift paddles are released again, the clutch closes with lightning
speed if PSM is switched off (ESC+TC OFF) and there is a pulse-like resumption of
the flow of power between the engine and drive system. If PSM is switched on, the
clutch also closes quickly, but not in the same pulse-like way, when the paddles are
released at the same time. The engaged gear flashes on the gear indicator in the
instrument cluster to indicate that the Paddle Neutral function is activated.
The Paddle Neutral function essentially offers two advantages. First, if the vehicle
understeers in a curve (on a wet road, for example), this function allows the driver to
neutralize vehicle handling. The interruption in propulsion force on the rear axle prevents
further “sliding” over the front axle and allows the build-up of additional cornering
forces on the wheels on the front axle. This functional advantage therefore
ensures not only greater driving safety, but also improved driving performance as a
result of faster stabilization of the vehicle. The second advantage of the Paddle Neutral
function is due to the individual influencing of the driving dynamics through the
pulse-like build-up of propulsion force upon clutch engagement. During dynamic driveoff
acceleration in conjunction with the ESC+TC OFF function, for example, the
amount of slip on the wheels can therefore be controlled individually using the accelerator pedal.
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[5517]

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