thinking of taking the plunge and buying a 996gt3

thinking of taking the plunge and buying a 996gt3

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rallyeman

540 posts

176 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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LaSource said:
s_mcneil said:
Scooty100 said:
I fully understand the 996 is more 'tactile' as I had an RS but now as you rarely see these cars on a track (la source exclude from this) the 997 really comes into play. You can use the 997 as a DD, an occasional hooner or a track weapon where it will equally impress and IMO looks better with one of the best sounding exhaust notes around.
At silverstone on Monday there were 5 996 GT3s, all clubsports, all being used as intended. Only 1 997 and 1 991...
...yes, and three of them had a whale of a time...but got told to cool it whilst cutting through traffic wink

That's a good point - there were a fair few there, a bit like the 'old days'. But yes, 6RSs seems to have been retired from active duty for most.
Quick 5 seconds, shot on a iPhone, of my GT3 at Spa, yesterday, being used as it should be. You'll have to turn up the volume.
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/w2DCF-Snp0g


Cheburator mk2

2,996 posts

200 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Slippydiff said:
Trust me, you don't need to give Olaf anything like that to equalise the game smile A quick debit card payment to M & M and a proprietary remap will see you right back in the game driving

As for the cable throttle actuation question, just like the Mk1, every Cup car (bar the latest iteration) has had cable throttle actuation. Nuff said wink
Sure, but i think the K400 has one of the best soundtracks from the inside - the carbon fibre shroud resonating from 6k to 8.3k is something else. Also the way the car snorts and snarls through the Cup filter at low rpm as the Alpha-N gets a tad confused reminds me of Darth Vader, which can only be a good thing wink

Slippydiff

14,851 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Cheburator mk2 said:
Sure, but i think the K400 has one of the best soundtracks from the inside - the carbon fibre shroud resonating from 6k to 8.3k is something else. Also the way the car snorts and snarls through the Cup filter at low rpm as the Alpha-N gets a tad confused reminds me of Darth Vader, which can only be a good thing wink
Agreed, the K400 intake noise/resonance is something rather special above 6k rpm. I've driven four of them with the K400 conversion now, my old black car was unique among them in the way it sounded.

lemmingjames

7,462 posts

205 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Doppelkupplung said:
Good point. Is it advisable for the engines to have a borescope too?

Out of interest, how many people own or purchased a gt3 in their 20s?
Got mine when i was 28

S1MMA

2,380 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Slippydiff said:
In their 20's ? Not many I'd wager.
I was 29 when I bought my 997 GT3. Most that I have met are a fair bit older though.

Scooty100

1,469 posts

117 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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LaSource said:
Hi, just to add context to the above, I did not specifically fit the 9e solution because of dissapointment with std noise.

In standard spec the 6GT3/RS is not loud like an Italian car, but then I love the sound of the engine. It is part of your extended being which gives you feedback on where the engine is, how hard it is working, optimum times to change, blip, etc. Like a faithful horse (well, 400 of them!) which you control through all the control inputs...on a track or fast road....you are one.

...however, one of my back boxes needed replacing and so instead of standard I started investigating alternatives with some sound improvement, performance improvement, longevity, etc.
Gotcha well worth having done at Kens whilst there then.
The 7 nonetheless I found a better noise all round than my 6 maybe as I wasn't really exploiting its capabilities on track.
I'd never change the noise of the 7 gt3 just love it.
Good luck

LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Scooty100 said:
Gotcha well worth having done at Kens whilst there then.
The 7 nonetheless I found a better noise all round than my 6 maybe as I wasn't really exploiting its capabilities on track.
I'd never change the noise of the 7 gt3 just love it.
Good luck
Cheers.

Having said that, my 7.2 RS which is more of a road car has a centre bypass fitted and now the exhaust flaps disconnected as well....it sounds mental!! Proper ear splitting loud....(well for people behind the car!)
Only drawback is you can't drive in spirited fashion without everyone in a 1 mile radius being aware of it!

Scooty100

1,469 posts

117 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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LaSource said:
Cheers.

Having said that, my 7.2 RS which is more of a road car has a centre bypass fitted and now the exhaust flaps disconnected as well....it sounds mental!! Proper ear splitting loud....(well for people behind the car!)
Only drawback is you can't drive in spirited fashion without everyone in a 1 mile radius being aware of it!
Haha glad to hear it its what an RS is all about !

seawise

2,147 posts

207 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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LaSource said:
But yes, 6RSs seems to have been retired from active duty for most.
Nonsense, i'm off to the 'ring and Spa (RMA on monday) this weekend, can't wait !

LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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seawise said:
Nonsense, i'm off to the 'ring and Spa (RMA on monday) this weekend, can't wait !
You are my hero thumbup

LongTimeGone

53 posts

157 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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If your after a 996 GT3 then check out Cambridge Motor co. they look to be the go to people at the moment for great cars

keep it lit

3,388 posts

168 months

Scooty100

1,469 posts

117 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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keep it lit said:
Looks a great buy

Doppelkupplung

185 posts

113 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Had a look at a mk2 gt3 cs today. Very clean car with low miles, the seller admitted that the car spends most of its life on the track. Amongst the receipts was a new roll cage, I am unsure why you would do this, anyway when we went for a quick spin he was driving like a bat out of hell. He hit near 130mph on a country lane and I noticed the roll cage began to shake quite significantly. Is this normal!? confused

siheb

149 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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In a word, no. That's definitely not normal. I have an aftermarket tequipment cage and it's just seen 140 or so mph on the straight at Spa and was solid as a rock.

Incidentally the trip to Spa was incredible. Unbelievable track, great weather. The car held up amazingly. Hell we even had an impromptu (fairly high speed) 911 four car convey across Belgium and France on the way back yesterday evening. All in all 800 miles in 3 days and it didn't miss a beat. I wonder how many other track/road cars out there can handle that without fault?

siheb

149 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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In a word, no. That's definitely not normal. I have an aftermarket tequipment cage and it's just seen 140 or so mph on the straight at Spa and was solid as a rock.

Incidentally the trip to Spa was incredible. Unbelievable track, great weather. The car held up amazingly. Hell we even had an impromptu (fairly high speed) 911 four car convey across Belgium and France on the way back yesterday evening. All in all 800 miles in 3 days and it didn't miss a beat. I wonder how many other track/road cars out there can handle that without fault?

keep it lit

3,388 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Doppelkupplung said:
Had a look at a mk2 gt3 cs today. Very clean car with low miles, the seller admitted that the car spends most of its life on the track. Amongst the receipts was a new roll cage, I am unsure why you would do this, anyway when we went for a quick spin he was driving like a bat out of hell. He hit near 130mph on a country lane and I noticed the roll cage began to shake quite significantly. Is this normal!? confused
the front legs section (the bit you can see in front of you when your sat in either seat) can shake at speed especially if any of the tyres are out of balance. if you look around at various images you can see some are braced to prevent this. not sure why a CS would have a new cage other than the old one being removed and sold in the past.

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Edited by keep it lit on Wednesday 13th May 19:32

Doppelkupplung

185 posts

113 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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keep it lit said:
the front legs section (the bit you can see in front of you when your sat in either seat) can shake at speed especially if any of the tyres are out of balance. if you look around at various images you can see some are braced to prevent this. not sure why a CS would have a new cage other than the old one being removed and sold in the past.

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Edited by keep it lit on Wednesday 13th May 19:32
Yes it was the front leg section. I didn't hear or look around to see if it was isolated or all over. Interesting about the conflicting responses but by others bracing them it suggests that it can happen. Just need to figure out if it could signify anything worse than simply wheels being out of balance. I've arrange for the 112 point inspection and they will get back to me about providing an overrev report.

Btw are there cars robust enough to handle 15,000 odd miles flat out on a track? He hAs new discs and pads but he didn't replace the diff or clutch during hiw ownership. I guess these will be near the end of their life?

Edited by Doppelkupplung on Wednesday 13th May 19:52

Harris_I

3,228 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Doppelkupplung said:
Yes it was the front leg section. I didn't hear or look around to see if it was isolated or all over. Interesting about the conflicting responses but by others bracing them it suggests that it can happen. Just need to figure out if it could signify anything worse than simply wheels being out of balance. I've arrange for the 112 point inspection and they will get back to me about providing an overrev report.

Btw are there cars robust enough to handle 15,000 odd miles flat out on a track? He hAs new discs and pads but he didn't replace the diff or clutch during hiw ownership. I guess these will be near the end of their life?

Edited by Doppelkupplung on Wednesday 13th May 19:52
Ade is correct. I had what is called a GT Cage overseas (which I think is the same as a Clubsport cage in the UK) and it vibrated somewhere around 140mph. I would guess this is mostly a result of the 996's inherent lack of rigidity as my car was regularly geo'd, corner weighted and had regular fresh tyres.

996 clutch can last for a ridiculously long time if treated right even in a car used for track days and competitive events. Diff will be useless by now if it hasn't been replaced. Don't bother replacing it with OEM as it will be toast within very short order if you go out on track.

Harris_I

3,228 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Harris_I said:
mostly a result of the 996's inherent lack of rigidity
Just to qualify this, a welded FIA cage massively improved rigidity. (Bolting a CS cage to the front of the cabin is the problem). Tequipment is only bolted to the back so you will not experience the same issue.