thinking of taking the plunge and buying a 996gt3

thinking of taking the plunge and buying a 996gt3

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LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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GT3Gooner said:
Done most of the above list to my 6.2 CS but at £35k 2 yrs ago reckon I'm still in profit. Interested in the switchable exhaust though, what and where from please??
The exhaust is from Nine Excellence. Picked up the car yesterday so not had the chance to compare against an earlier dyno trace of the car pre change.

However, seat of the pants feels much punchier mid range....and more aural! Difficult to judge top end proper;y on dampish public roads...but feels promising.

My car had a factory fitted pse kit complete with standard dash button to switch the exhaust (not a regular option on GT3s but was available if you were nice with your local OPC). Ken has managed to wire up the exhaust flaps to the button so that I can chose loud or not loud...

The tips are standard GT3...so overall the car still looks standard which is the way I like it (well, apart from the BBS LMs and cup steering wheel boxedin)


Slippydiff

14,851 posts

224 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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LaSource said:
Yes, snippety snap... smile

That is the second camera from my vbox unit....pointing at the pedals...it will become novelty viewing in years to come smile
I take it the camera is fairly lightweight ? If so some decent quality, thick cable ties would be friendlier to your limbs in the event something untoward happens.

smile

BlackGT3

1,445 posts

211 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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PorscheGT4 is the new alias for Mrdemon!

LaSource said:
PorscheGT4 said:
£65k I guess

loads of things to look out for the cars >10 years old.

1: dampers
2: top mounts
3: diff
4: clutch
5: rotting exhaust
6: rads
7: AC condensors
8: disks
9: pads
10: crash damage
11: Full service history
12: bushs' end of life
13: spring sag
14: coil packs
15: over revs
16: cracked leather on seats

think that's about it to be getting on with :-)
Do you know, I think I agree with our friend here wink

As in, yes this is probably the fullest list of things that can ever need doing.
It would have to be the worst maintained car ever for many items on this list to need doing at the same time. But that's where a good inspection would help.

Generally hewned from granite. I personally believe they won't be coming down fast...but you never know there may be more on the market once spring proper starts.

Took mine out this weekend....so so so analogue...

A new cup steering wheel and switchsble exhaust has added to the overall focus.

LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Slippydiff said:
I take it the camera is fairly lightweight ? If so some decent quality, thick cable ties would be friendlier to your limbs in the event something untoward happens.

smile
I was waiting for the sucker punch smile

It's ok. If something that serious happened there would be other things to be more worried about.
Anyway, with cable ties I'd be more concerned about the unit coming loose in the pedal well :eek

jfp

515 posts

224 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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robin993 said:
I guess that the title says it all. I have fancied one for a while, i am thinking Mk2 ad would love a clubsport. They hardly ever seem to come up. My questions are.. what should i expect to pay? are there any cars coming onto the market? other than the normal things is there anything to lookout for?
I will keep the 993 for road use and use the 996 for the odd track day.
If you want one buy one - you won't lose money. The GT3 is an iconic car and for the money still offer great value for money, I mean what else could you buy for the money? What Gt4 owners think is irrelevant, they have made a choice and chosen not to go down the GT3 route - there are plenty of others that would rather a Gt3 keeping the residual values high enough. Rightly or wrongly the 911 will always be the daddy in pretty much everyone's eyes. Good luck in finding one.

Slippydiff

14,851 posts

224 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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LaSource said:
I was waiting for the sucker punch smile

It's ok. If something that serious happened there would be other things to be more worried about.
Anyway, with cable ties I'd be more concerned about the unit coming loose in the pedal well :eek
No sucker punch here smile You'll most likely be aware I've done a "high speed side impact test" in a 996 GT3. The impact between the side of the seat and my ribs broke two of them. Should the worst happen, your torso will be restrained by your harnesses, your legs won't be.........

At the very least I'd suggest you turn the jubilee clips around so the inside face of the cage and clips presents a smooth surface, and secondly buy some clips the correct length so you don't have long "tails" floating about in the breeze.

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GT3Gooner

48 posts

121 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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So are we gonna go for a hat trick of 996 GR GT3s at the silverstone Sunday service??

GT3Gooner

48 posts

121 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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So are we gonna go for a hat trick of 996 GR GT3s at the silverstone Sunday service??

LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Slippydiff said:
No sucker punch here smile You'll most likely be aware I've done a "high speed side impact test" in a 996 GT3. The impact between the side of the seat and my ribs broke two of them. Should the worst happen, your torso will be restrained by your harnesses, your legs won't be.........
Sheesh!....I see..

Slippydiff said:
At the very least I'd suggest you turn the jubilee clips around so the inside face of the cage and clips presents a smooth surface, and secondly buy some clips the correct length so you don't have long "tails" floating about in the breeze.

smile
I buy that. Thanks for the tip.

LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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GT3Gooner said:

So are we gonna go for a hat trick of 996 GR GT3s at the silverstone Sunday service??
I am now at a Silverstone GP track day on the Saturday...need to check if I can get the domestic visa to do a Sunday as well..

GT3Gooner

48 posts

121 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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I'm going to the 73rd MM at Goodwood with my RS60 on Saturday and will be parked up at the Silverstone Racing Club at Woodcote on Sunday with the GT3 CS if you make it. Would be good to say hello.

GT4RS

4,439 posts

198 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Slippydiff said:
GT4RS said:
Thank you for the kind words slippy diff

You're very welcome ! smile

GT4RS said:
I can comftably purchase a gt3 996 if wished,
I wasn't suggesting you couldn't smile But there seem to be plenty of hand wringers crying into their beer that they didn't buy when the 996 GT3 was £30-35k.......

GT4RS said:
Over the past 12 months I have chosen to purchase another two rental property's which give me additional monthly income rather than jump into the speculative gt world !
Good for you, I trust you're aware you can actually drive the cars and enjoy them ? rather than buy them and put them in a garage hoping they'll increase in value ??

GT4RS said:
I'm guessing you have kept both the 964 rs and 993 rs and now sit on half a million pounds worth of cars?
Good lord no ! ! ! I believe in "playing the motoring field", life's too short not to smile Though I've never bought a new car, and all the pork I've bought have been GT or RS as their residuals have traditionally been stronger than their vanilla bretheren.

Mk1 Escort Mexico (1st car)
Chevette HS
Opel Ascona 400
E30 M3 Evo 2
Sapphire Cosworth 2WD
VR6 Golf Highline
E36 M3 Saloon
Impreza 22B One of 16 UK cars
964 RS Midnight Blue
964 RS Guards Red
993 RS Guards Red
Impreza P1
Mk1 996 GT3 Zanzibar
964 RS Rubystone
996 GT2 Midnight Blue
Gen 1997 GT3 Meteor Grey
Subaru Impreza WRC car (the 2nd WRC car Prodrive built)
Mk1 996 GT3 Zanzibar X2 (I bought it back ! !)
M3 CSL
996 GT2 Basalt Black (Ohlins, remap, Ruf exhaust)
996 GT3 RS White with Red
Gen 1 997 GT3 Slate Grey
1M Coupe Orange
1M Coupe White
M6 V10
964 RS Ferrari Yellow
Mk1 996 GT3 Black with Ohlins, Clubsport cage, Manthey K400 etc
Mk1 996 GT3 Clubsport Guards Red

I've still got the yellow 964 RS which I purchased nearly four years ago just as the ship sailed, and last year I sold a very special Comfort Mk1 996 GT3 and bought a rare Clubsport Mk1 (again as the price ship was setting sail last summer)
I'm jealous of one car here frown


Bmw m3 evo 2


Please don't tell me it was finished in nogaro silver ?

It's the only car I regret not buying, it's was the car or a deposit for the first house back in 2002.

Would still love to own one today, ps if you want to re-live your youth and are after a opel manta 400 full works spec I might be your man!

Slippydiff

14,851 posts

224 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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GT4RS said:
I'm jealous of one car here frown


Bmw m3 evo 2


Please don't tell me it was finished in nogaro silver ?

It's the only car I regret not buying, it's was the car or a deposit for the first house back in 2002.

Would still love to own one today, ps if you want to re-live your youth and are after a opel manta 400 full works spec I might be your man!
Henna (or more likely Misano ?) Red. Some naughty cams and head work, Hartge split rims (incredibly light). Number 238 IIRC.

Manta 400 ? phwoar, I remember seeing a road version at Longleat whilst spectating on the 1983 RAC. A proper wide arch LHD, Russelsheim registered car, with all the decals, four headlamp kit AND the additional lamps in the front bumper/spoiler as seen below. cloud9

That was the first time I saw a Quattro with the Ronal 8X15" wheels too ......




Tell me more about the full works Manta (note the rather special Impreza I owned seven years ago .......)

robin993

Original Poster:

102 posts

130 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Thanks for all of the comments
anyone know this car?
This one has the bucket seats and rear roll cage, other than the seats being leather are there many other differences between a clubsport and a comfort?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...


Edited by robin993 on Monday 16th March 12:29

LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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From a driver experience perspective there is nothing lost by getting a comfort with buckets and cage.

The cage is less robust if you are unfortunate to be in a rollover situation, however, apart from that eventuality the comfort cage is good enough to mount harnesses on and the buckets give the same support.

Most CSs do not have the battery cut off connected anyway.


keep it lit

3,388 posts

168 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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sorry don't know the car personally but agree the spec looks good (although red is not the fastest colour wink ) buckets, harnesses & tech cage.. I also spy front 362mm Alcons. get it inspected & driven.

Cheburator mk2

2,996 posts

200 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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LaSource said:
From a driver experience perspective there is nothing lost by getting a comfort with buckets and cage.
True with the Mk2, on the Mk1 we got the single mass flywheel, which makes a huge difference in driving experience... Been told that a Mk2 with a single mass flywheel is even more of a hoot to drive due to even lighter engine internals...

355Chris355

134 posts

114 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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GT4RS said:
Wrong time to buy IMO, prices have gone silly to fast.

If you have waited already I would wait a little longer and see where the market takes us over the next 12 months!
Agreed, the bubble will burst in 2015:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Cheburator mk2 said:
LaSource said:
From a driver experience perspective there is nothing lost by getting a comfort with buckets and cage.
True with the Mk2, on the Mk1 we got the single mass flywheel, which makes a huge difference in driving experience... Been told that a Mk2 with a single mass flywheel is even more of a hoot to drive due to even lighter engine internals...
True. It's on my to do list the next time the engine/gearbox comes out.

robin993

Original Poster:

102 posts

130 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Oh, i don't know what to do. The value is a factor, as it is a lot of money to me and i dont want to make a big loss. They are getting silly and the 997 gt3 is starting to look like a bargain, with newness on its side?