997 GT3 Gen1 front suspension creak
Discussion
My Gt3 has started to creak after traveling a few miles. you only really hear it at slow speeds. It doesn't make any noise when you initially drive it from cold. Took it to an OPC (it is under warranty) and they said it is normal. They checked top mounts etc and said everything ok. The car has had an easy life, very little track work and only 24k miles. it has only just started the creaking. Is this normal?
lemmingjames said:
no its fked, remove comment from this board, put it up for sale with no mention, bit of wd40 on the springs when buyer turns up otherwise itll need atleast a £5k suspension refresh.
....or the OP could be persistent with the OPC to get it un-fked under the warranty rather than flog a known to be defective car to an unsuspecting buyer?I had similar not so long back getting to be a common problem now with gen 1 997 3 millage is only one side of problem age is other my car is 07 57 with 27k on turned out to be the ball joints both sides I was lucky and got a brand new pair of arms for £700.00 a bargain considering new from opc are £900.00 each !!
coccodrillo said:
....or the OP could be persistent with the OPC to get it un-fked under the warranty rather than flog a known to be defective car to an unsuspecting buyer?
He could but then Rroro on here had an issue, kept taking it back to an OPC to fix, couldnt find it, changed many things (at his cost i believe), still fked, took it to Centre Gravity who unfked it immediatelySome people on here are just so uppity
It's almost certainly the bushes within the Bilstein dampers, which are known to wear. I was alerted to this in another thread that you should be able to find by searching for 'creak'. Getting this attended to fixed teh creak on my 997.1 GT3 immediately and - so far - permanently.
Chris F at Centre Gravity is a known expert and can arrange for your front dampers to be reworked by Bilstein for around £100 each, if I remember correctly;I think that improved bushes are fitted. I suggest strongly that you get this investigated before spending time and money on other solutions (particularly replacing top mounts, which seems to be the favourite - but ultimately ineffective - solution suggested by OPCs).
James
Chris F at Centre Gravity is a known expert and can arrange for your front dampers to be reworked by Bilstein for around £100 each, if I remember correctly;I think that improved bushes are fitted. I suggest strongly that you get this investigated before spending time and money on other solutions (particularly replacing top mounts, which seems to be the favourite - but ultimately ineffective - solution suggested by OPCs).
James
Slippydiff said:
Suffice to say the job was done under warranty, but neither dealership exactly covered themselves in glory...
The above was sufficient to make me realise that dealing with corporate businesses rather than enthusiasts wasn't an ideal Porsche ownership proposition for me .....
+10The above was sufficient to make me realise that dealing with corporate businesses rather than enthusiasts wasn't an ideal Porsche ownership proposition for me .....
short-shift said:
It's almost certainly the bushes within the Bilstein dampers, which are known to wear. I was alerted to this in another thread that you should be able to find by searching for 'creak'. Getting this attended to fixed teh creak on my 997.1 GT3 immediately and - so far - permanently.
Chris F at Centre Gravity is a known expert and can arrange for your front dampers to be reworked by Bilstein for around £100 each, if I remember correctly;I think that improved bushes are fitted. I suggest strongly that you get this investigated before spending time and money on other solutions (particularly replacing top mounts, which seems to be the favourite - but ultimately ineffective - solution suggested by OPCs).
James
This is almost certainly the problem. I have just changed the front dampers on my 997 GT2 and hey presto the problem has gone. I spoke to Chris at Centre Gravity and this is a well documented problem. For me problem started at 22k miles and had exactly the same description as OP. Since the change no problems. Will get removed parts refurbished so have spare for next time it happens.Chris F at Centre Gravity is a known expert and can arrange for your front dampers to be reworked by Bilstein for around £100 each, if I remember correctly;I think that improved bushes are fitted. I suggest strongly that you get this investigated before spending time and money on other solutions (particularly replacing top mounts, which seems to be the favourite - but ultimately ineffective - solution suggested by OPCs).
James
Edited by am0611 on Saturday 1st August 07:45
Edited by am0611 on Saturday 1st August 08:17
Just to add something to this thread.
I had a creak from my front suspension, but it was there from cold.
My issue was lower Wishbone/LCA/Lower Control Arm and replacing them has fixed the issue.
So it seems, if it's there at cold, it's probably the arms.
If it only starts to creak after the car has "warmed through" (dampers heat up considerably when in use), it is more likely to be damper bushes.
Does that seem a fair assessment/assumption?
I had a creak from my front suspension, but it was there from cold.
My issue was lower Wishbone/LCA/Lower Control Arm and replacing them has fixed the issue.
So it seems, if it's there at cold, it's probably the arms.
If it only starts to creak after the car has "warmed through" (dampers heat up considerably when in use), it is more likely to be damper bushes.
Does that seem a fair assessment/assumption?
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