Low miles manual 997 GTS at Dovehouse.

Low miles manual 997 GTS at Dovehouse.

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hondansx

4,580 posts

226 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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My issue with the whole mileage/value thing is that it basically forces you to not use it.

Given the cost of the seats aftermarket though, i'd happily pay the premium for this car though.

hondansx

4,580 posts

226 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Shiverman said:
hondansx said:
Looks awesome, second only to another carbon bucket-seat equipped GTS i saw in a PTS Maritime Blue earlier this year.

Here's the conddrum though, this is top money and you could quite easily justify comparing this to a Gen 1 GT3. If you do little miles, you may as well get the GT3. If you do a lot of miles, you are going to start wiping value off of the GTS pretty quickly...

This is the same conundrum which led me to getting a GT3 instead!
Unless you need/want 2+2......
My GT3 has rear seats wink

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Nothing against Dovehouse, but for £70K I'd just buy one from my local OPC. I know some people hate OPC, but mine is good.
I guess it depends how much you really like that spec, as I admit it would be hard to find another one like that.

13m

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26,372 posts

223 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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uktrailmonster said:
Nothing against Dovehouse, but for £70K I'd just buy one from my local OPC. I know some people hate OPC, but mine is good.
I guess it depends how much you really like that spec, as I admit it would be hard to find another one like that.
That assumes, of course, that your local OPC has one within its network.

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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13m said:
That assumes, of course, that your local OPC has one within its network.
Sure, manual ones are rare and this spec is pretty unique. But £70K is a big premium too, you would really have to want it exactly like that. I'll be surprised if it sells for that much to be honest, but only needs one buyer.

13m

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26,372 posts

223 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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uktrailmonster said:
13m said:
That assumes, of course, that your local OPC has one within its network.
Sure, manual ones are rare and this spec is pretty unique. But £70K is a big premium too, you would really have to want it exactly like that. I'll be surprised if it sells for that much to be honest, but only needs one buyer.
To be honest, if I was in the market for a manual GTS I would probably be tempted even at £70k.

I was looking for a GTS earlier this year and decided upon the spec I wanted, assuming it would be only a matter of days before several showed up and I could take my pick. PH wisdom suggested I wouldn't get what I wanted, so I bought the first one I found that was approximately right. That was 1 April, and the spec I wanted still hasn't appeared on any GTS for sale since then.

I appreciate that some people want to lose as little on a car as possible, but personally I would rather have the car I want, at the time I want it, even if there is an inevitable financial loss. I am not alone in that attitude and that car will, I suspect, find a buyer.


uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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13m said:
To be honest, if I was in the market for a manual GTS I would probably be tempted even at £70k.

I was looking for a GTS earlier this year and decided upon the spec I wanted, assuming it would be only a matter of days before several showed up and I could take my pick. PH wisdom suggested I wouldn't get what I wanted, so I bought the first one I found that was approximately right. That was 1 April, and the spec I wanted still hasn't appeared on any GTS for sale since then.

I appreciate that some people want to lose as little on a car as possible, but personally I would rather have the car I want, at the time I want it, even if there is an inevitable financial loss. I am not alone in that attitude and that car will, I suspect, find a buyer.
The words "if", "probably" and "even at £70K" don't sound that convincing to me. You don't sound like being that one buyer they actually need wink

13m

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26,372 posts

223 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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uktrailmonster said:
13m said:
To be honest, if I was in the market for a manual GTS I would probably be tempted even at £70k.

I was looking for a GTS earlier this year and decided upon the spec I wanted, assuming it would be only a matter of days before several showed up and I could take my pick. PH wisdom suggested I wouldn't get what I wanted, so I bought the first one I found that was approximately right. That was 1 April, and the spec I wanted still hasn't appeared on any GTS for sale since then.

I appreciate that some people want to lose as little on a car as possible, but personally I would rather have the car I want, at the time I want it, even if there is an inevitable financial loss. I am not alone in that attitude and that car will, I suspect, find a buyer.
The words "if", "probably" and "even at £70K" don't sound that convincing to me. You don't sound like being that one buyer they actually need wink
No I am not, because I already have one and I wouldn't buy a manual.


PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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the thing with paying that much is , add 10k miles and it costs you 10k !

seems no point paying for low miles cars if you want to use them.

Tinker06

52 posts

183 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
the thing with paying that much is , add 10k miles and it costs you 10k !

seems no point paying for low miles cars if you want to use them.
Not sure that I agree with this as it depends on the individual and what they want the car for. Some may want to use it everyday and pay the premium for a pretty much new car and be happy to use it everyday. Others will buy it and store it and wait for it to appreciate further. So it totally depends on your motive for buying it. But you are in right in that if you want to put 10k miles on a car in a very short period of time you should not be buying something like this. This is a rare car...

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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it's not a rare car, it's a car with low miles which you pay though the nose for, it's never going to go up in value, only down if you use it.

Very nice car all the same.

chrisABP

1,112 posts

149 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
it's not a rare car, it's a car with low miles which you pay though the nose for, it's never going to go up in value, only down if you use it.

Very nice car all the same.
2WD 997 GTS Manual IS a rare car - less than 100 ever registered!

Having said that the 4WD 997 GTS Manual is ultra rare as less than 20 ever registered!

Much rarer than a lot of 'supposedly' rare cars!

PDK's much more common at approx. 360 2WD cars and 250 4WD cars registered in the UK.

But I do agree that its top money and miles will knock the value down significantly...

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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That's 730 GTS's in Total :-)

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

201 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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It may be rare, but ultimately not THAT desirable. I really like the 997 GTS, even considered buying one to replace my C4S, but not enough to pay £10K over OPC prices for this specific spec. It will be interesting to see how they get on with that price tag. I haven't been to Dovehouse for a few years now, but they used to be pretty keen on pricing and always had good clean stock. Maybe they've changed management since then or maybe just testing the market with this particular car as it is quite a unique spec?



Hobo

5,768 posts

247 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Does seem expensive of some fancy seats, and low mileage (but not 'that' low).

Personally, I'm looking for a 4GTS in the next couple of months, so keeping looking at OPC's, 911virgin, etc, etc. There's a manual 4GTS in the OPC network for around 65k, which looking at the post above is a far rarer thing than the model at Dovehouse. Not for me though either of them.

andyc11

326 posts

133 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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When I bought my PDK GTS in December '13, OPC Leeds had a manual, bucket seat and sports chassis model in with 17k miles on. Not what I wanted at the time (and still not now), but that was £3k cheaper than the PDK I bought (I paid £59k).

chrisABP

1,112 posts

149 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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A customer of mine called about this car yesterday and its sold!

Someone got a great spec low mileage car but had to pay for the privilege!

kilarney

483 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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So it has. Goes to show what the right car can sell for and that a 2wd manual is up there with the best of them. A really top notch example though.