997 Winter Wheels
Discussion
Hi Folks,
Just thinking about getting a winter wheel & tyre set for my Gen 2 997 for this winter. I've always driven my Porsche's in Winter (except very snowy conditions); however, I spun out my 993 in snow which didn't have winter tyres. A previous 325 BMW I owned had winter tyres & I was amazed at how much grip & confidence inspiring it was in winter.
just wondering where you folks have bought yours from/recommendations?
Just thinking about getting a winter wheel & tyre set for my Gen 2 997 for this winter. I've always driven my Porsche's in Winter (except very snowy conditions); however, I spun out my 993 in snow which didn't have winter tyres. A previous 325 BMW I owned had winter tyres & I was amazed at how much grip & confidence inspiring it was in winter.
just wondering where you folks have bought yours from/recommendations?
9-Apart in Bury normally have several set of wheels/tyres in stock, often winters. Trusted seller with lots of items listed on Ebay, but do call them if you can't find summat suitable.
Jasmine Porschalink also have plenty of wheelsets, but generally without tyres. Winter tyres are available mail order from lots of suppliers but Camskills and Oponeo are well worth a look.
Jasmine Porschalink also have plenty of wheelsets, but generally without tyres. Winter tyres are available mail order from lots of suppliers but Camskills and Oponeo are well worth a look.
Porscheshop are also worth a try as they often stock secondhand wheels -
http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/road_wheels_...
As far as tyres go, as already said some of the online places such as mytyres, tyre leader, etc, are usually the cheapest, especially if you get them now and not wait until everyone is ordering them.
http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/road_wheels_...
As far as tyres go, as already said some of the online places such as mytyres, tyre leader, etc, are usually the cheapest, especially if you get them now and not wait until everyone is ordering them.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-PORSCHE-997-CARR...
These would probably suit, but I'd double check the off-sets - could just be a badly edited generic advert that they use. Narrow body 997 Carrera wheels usually 8/57et x 19 frt and 11/67et x 19 rr.
These would probably suit, but I'd double check the off-sets - could just be a badly edited generic advert that they use. Narrow body 997 Carrera wheels usually 8/57et x 19 frt and 11/67et x 19 rr.
Edited by FarQue on Wednesday 9th September 15:42
Another suggestion would be to check German sellers on eBay - I got a really good set of wheels/tyres for my BMW there at a very reasonable price.
Mind you - these are very cheap
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Carrera-997S-win...
Mind you - these are very cheap
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Carrera-997S-win...
We've had winter tyres for our cars (all front engine, rear wheel drive) for a few years now, and the difference over summer tyres on cold roads on the morning and evening commutes makes the cost involved laughable. We will be ordering winters for the 911 soon, but still not sure which path we will take.
You guys must drive absolutely balls out fast if you seriously think you'll have any problems with grip at 5 degrees with premium summer tyres on a 997. Likewise for standing water.
It's amazing that winter tyres have only recently become absolutely essential despite summer tyres having improved immeasurably.
If you run out of grip in a 997, it ain't coz its cold. It's because you're f
king mental or doing it deliberately.
Happy for someone to tell me I am wrong, but I drove my 987 through 2 winters and found that you had to try to lose grip even in the wet and at low temperatures. Massive bloody tyres with loads of water shedding and oodles of grip.
As for ice, you're fked on any tyres 
It's amazing that winter tyres have only recently become absolutely essential despite summer tyres having improved immeasurably.
If you run out of grip in a 997, it ain't coz its cold. It's because you're f
king mental or doing it deliberately. Happy for someone to tell me I am wrong, but I drove my 987 through 2 winters and found that you had to try to lose grip even in the wet and at low temperatures. Massive bloody tyres with loads of water shedding and oodles of grip.
As for ice, you're f
ked on any tyres ORD said:
You guys must drive absolutely balls out fast if you seriously think you'll have any problems with grip at 5 degrees with premium summer tyres on a 997. Likewise for standing water.
It's amazing that winter tyres have only recently become absolutely essential despite summer tyres having improved immeasurably.
If you run out of grip in a 997, it ain't coz its cold. It's because you're fking mental or doing it deliberately.
Happy for someone to tell me I am wrong, but I drove my 987 through 2 winters and found that you had to try to lose grip even in the wet and at low temperatures. Massive bloody tyres with loads of water shedding and oodles of grip.
As for ice, you're fked on any tyres
What experience do you have on winter tyres?It's amazing that winter tyres have only recently become absolutely essential despite summer tyres having improved immeasurably.
If you run out of grip in a 997, it ain't coz its cold. It's because you're f
king mental or doing it deliberately. Happy for someone to tell me I am wrong, but I drove my 987 through 2 winters and found that you had to try to lose grip even in the wet and at low temperatures. Massive bloody tyres with loads of water shedding and oodles of grip.
As for ice, you're f
ked on any tyres Fair enough, mate. As I said, I'm happy for people to tell me that I am wrong. It just strikes me as something that Porsche and BMW in particular have worked out is a huge money maker (along with replacing tyres at 3mm, which I do agree is probably sensible).
I have largely filed winter tyres with the 'winter check' and 'spring check' and other ways that OPCs stay busy between services.
I can much more see the point for RWD BMWs, as they can become a bit iffy when it's slippery (traction, mostly, though rather than grip).
Nonetheless, if you find that winters give you more confidence and so let you enjoy driving more, they're worth it for you.
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit
I have largely filed winter tyres with the 'winter check' and 'spring check' and other ways that OPCs stay busy between services.
I can much more see the point for RWD BMWs, as they can become a bit iffy when it's slippery (traction, mostly, though rather than grip).
Nonetheless, if you find that winters give you more confidence and so let you enjoy driving more, they're worth it for you.
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit
ORD said:
Fair enough, mate. As I said, I'm happy for people to tell me that I am wrong. It just strikes me as something that Porsche and BMW in particular have worked out is a huge money maker (along with replacing tyres at 3mm, which I do agree is probably sensible).
I have largely filed winter tyres with the 'winter check' and 'spring check' and other ways that OPCs stay busy between services.
I can much more see the point for RWD BMWs, as they can become a bit iffy when it's slippery (traction, mostly, though rather than grip).
Nonetheless, if you find that winters give you more confidence and so let you enjoy driving more, they're worth it for you.
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit
The fairest I can say is, if you know someone with a car on winter tyres, ask if you can have a go, even if it's just bloody cold. You'll be shocked at the 'feel' you get. And that's because instead of cold, hard summer rubber, you have nice soft pliable warm rubber biting into the road. And no, you're not fkd on ice either. They still grip. I've gone uphill in a car park that was so icy I could barely walk on it. I hadn't noticed any slip while driving on it!I have largely filed winter tyres with the 'winter check' and 'spring check' and other ways that OPCs stay busy between services.
I can much more see the point for RWD BMWs, as they can become a bit iffy when it's slippery (traction, mostly, though rather than grip).
Nonetheless, if you find that winters give you more confidence and so let you enjoy driving more, they're worth it for you.
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
alternative view would be or should be a poll:
Who has ever bought / ran Winter Tyres and thought them pointless.
Problem there is that you're hardly going to pay £1,500 to your OPC and then say 'What a mug I am!''. Some people might, but a lot of people will persuade themselves that they got a lot of value for the money.Who has ever bought / ran Winter Tyres and thought them pointless.
I take the point on actually trying something before I say it's pointless
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