Is The Silly Season Coming To An End

Is The Silly Season Coming To An End

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v8ksn

4,711 posts

185 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Digga said:
v8ksn said:
I don't understand why the 997.2 is going up in value and the 997.1 is stagnant (or going down) .....Going by current trends there will come a point where the gen 2 car is over £120k and the gen 1 is around £75k
TBF, makes no more or less 'sense' than the fact a 996 GT3 is very similarly priced to 997.1 GT3. It's all in the experience and the reputation I guess.
Yeah true! The 996 should be right up there as its the purest form of the GT3 we all know and love.

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Porsche911R said:
I think the right cars are speeding up and sell within hours.

CS cars imo are not the big sellers, yes maybe on forums people seem to uptalk CS pack, but out in the real world of car buyers, most don't want CS pack cars, you can see that with how most 991 GT3 and GT4 were speced, my OPC only selling one CS car and 6 normal GT4's.

the 997.2 GT3 non CS pack with leather sold in a few hours at full list at JZM the GT4 CS and the 997.2 CS have been for sale 3 or 4 weeks.

the OPC car you said was £145k which was £128k ;-) also NON CS pack and sold within a day, was a mega looking very high spec low miles car though.

what is slowing down and dropping is 996 GT3 and 997.1 GT3 prices.

I think 997.2 GT3 will go up in price still and the RS's well rare as hens teeth JZM selling both there's in hours at list !
Was it 128k sorry my mistake but yes it was an awesome looking thing with the carbon extras but i thought that was a CS car not a comfort spec???. I'm amazed that comfort cars are selling faster if thats right. It might be because they're cheaper?
I persoanlly dont see the point of a comfort spec GT3! You might as well buy something else but thats just me.

996 GT3 are a relative bargain, 7.1's are about 10k more expensive. I really do think that the 996 GT3 Gen 1 will be a very valuable car one day as its the original.

I'd have a 7.2 over a 7.1 any day, looks better, 3.8 and has a nicer interior, the silver plastic in the Gen 1 puts me off a little.

There is definitely something to be said for the 997 GT3 being last of the manual and metzger though...


SFO

5,169 posts

184 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Fokker said:
Was it 128k sorry my mistake but yes it was an awesome looking thing with the carbon extras but i thought that was a CS car not a comfort spec ???.
folding buckets, no cage

15k miles

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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I went to see the red CS GT3 at JZM sat, it's a very nice clean car and has the nicer slimmer fixed GT full carbon buckets.
I think that will sell quick, but who knows, it was getting a lot of interest Sat for sure.

But I have decided to keep my GT4 or go all out on the 997.2 GT3 RS.

I think the GT4 makes a nicer car to use day to day than the normal gen 2 GT3, but that's just me.
ON track then the 997.2 CS GT3 would be a nicer thing.

the RS, well I have no words they look amazing imo and of course the shorter ratio's

but how long before all 997.2 RS are £200k !

let also think that a 991.2 GT3 might be manual and out next year !

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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SFO said:
folding buckets, no cage

15k miles
Ahaha.. Cheers

GT4P

5,221 posts

186 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Porsche911R said:
but how long before all 997.2 RS are £200k !


God I wish I had jumped on one of those when they were £90k!

let also think that a 991.2 GT3 might be manual and out next year !
But the big worry there is if they use the current 991 manual box!

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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GT4P said:
But the big worry there is if they use the current 991 manual box!
I think it would be a 6 speed affair...

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Fokker said:
I think it would be a 6 speed affair...
I don't think a manual 991 GT3 / RS will affect the values of the 997.2 GT3 / RS - I may be wrong , but I doubt it smile

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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RSVP911 said:
I don't think a manual 991 GT3 / RS will affect the values of the 997.2 GT3 / RS - I may be wrong , but I doubt it smile
I agree...

apgreco

40 posts

153 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Very stupid question probably but how do you find out the actual selling prices in the market for GT3s - simply call up the dealer post-sale?

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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apgreco said:
Very stupid question probably but how do you find out the actual selling prices in the market for GT3s - simply call up the dealer post-sale?
You could do but the asking price won't be far of the price achieved in most cases... Dealers won't be giving away much of their profit if they can help it..
Also if a car sells quickly from a dealer for example JZM sell in a few days then you can be sure its not been discounted much. Cars that have been there for a while might have more movement in them for obvious reasons

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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apgreco said:
Very stupid question probably but how do you find out the actual selling prices in the market for GT3s - simply call up the dealer post-sale?
Dealer will simply tell you it either went for list or close to it - last thing they will do is tell you it went for loads less - doesn't help them shift the next car for full margin otherwise smile

apgreco

40 posts

153 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Thanks I thought that would probably be the answer!😀

LordOfTheManor

1,267 posts

112 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Gen 2 on its way! just watch the prices fall yes

v8ksn

4,711 posts

185 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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LordOfTheManor said:
Gen 2 on its way! just watch the prices fall yes
Have you placed a deposit on the gen2 at Cardiff OPC? hehe

Sorry, couldn't resist beer

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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LordOfTheManor said:
Gen 2 on its way! just watch the prices fall yes
Anyone reckon they know when it'll be here? This year or March Geneva '17

Sam All

3,101 posts

102 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Fokker said:
LordOfTheManor said:
Gen 2 on its way! just watch the prices fall yes
Anyone reckon they know when it'll be here? This year or March Geneva '17
Leaked out late this year, Geneva 2017 seems favourite.

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Sam All said:
Leaked out late this year, Geneva 2017 seems favourite.
Cheers Sam,

Anyone got a letter of intent in for one?

Mario149

7,763 posts

179 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Fokker said:
Anyone got a letter of intent in for one?
Yes, not that it's worth anything hehe As far as I can tell it basically means the dealer might give me a call to let me know when they're taking deposits.

mischaRS

83 posts

125 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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90% of cars advertised at , ermmm, so called ''Specialists'' are on SOR , and a vast percentage are never sold and returned to their owners.

Ditto same at European Dealerships with specialist GT3 and RS ---------- and a lot are badly damaged/ repaired , and being sold on behalf of long standing customers

We inspected one at a Porsche dealership near Paris and it had been totalled !! And another at Porsche near Cologne, ditto