991 GTS Must haves
Discussion
Cheib said:
Ah interesting about the induction noise...I really liked it. Good to know my ears are still functioning properly!
In terms of getting used to the car it was a combination of things...all the controls are much lighter. Steering, Clutch and Gearlever all feel "less mechanical/more artificial" than my 997 GTS. The one area where I think the 997 is superior to the 991 is the gearbox....I love the gearbox in mine (it has the factory short shift kit) it's got a stiffer and slightly shorter action than the 991 and I took a while to get used to the idea of 7th gear, more because when I was doing the 4th/5th change I was conscious of 7th being there...although I think there may be a gate that stops you going straight from 4th to 7th. Once I got used to the 991 gearbox I was much happier though.
The car I had was equipped with PCCB which are just incredible....the amount of stopping power they have is just ridiculous. The only problem with that is because of the way offset of the brake and accelerator pedals it makes it very difficult to Heal and Toe....something which is relatively easy to do in my car and something I get a disproportionate amount of enjoyment out of. I don't mind me admitting it took me a while to get the feel for the PCCB's but once I had I managed to get much happier with my ability to H&T...definitely harder to do in my car but it is still possible.
PCCB's are worth every penny in my opinion.....in a car as quick and capable as the 991.2 GTS you can't have enough stopping power in my opinion.
As I said in my earlier post I am surprised about the comments about the ride quality...it's miles better than my 997 GTS. I think this has big benefits too in the amount of grip/traction the car has....you can really accelerate out of bends with it in a way you can't in my car!
Yes that all makes perfect sense on why it took getting used to. Funny, but I always find Porsche pedals ideally set up for heel and toe (about the only make of car I can manage it in) but I guess the ceramic brakes' keenness would make it more of a challenge. I'm managing to do perfect heel and toe down changes....with a flick of my left paddle ;pIn terms of getting used to the car it was a combination of things...all the controls are much lighter. Steering, Clutch and Gearlever all feel "less mechanical/more artificial" than my 997 GTS. The one area where I think the 997 is superior to the 991 is the gearbox....I love the gearbox in mine (it has the factory short shift kit) it's got a stiffer and slightly shorter action than the 991 and I took a while to get used to the idea of 7th gear, more because when I was doing the 4th/5th change I was conscious of 7th being there...although I think there may be a gate that stops you going straight from 4th to 7th. Once I got used to the 991 gearbox I was much happier though.
The car I had was equipped with PCCB which are just incredible....the amount of stopping power they have is just ridiculous. The only problem with that is because of the way offset of the brake and accelerator pedals it makes it very difficult to Heal and Toe....something which is relatively easy to do in my car and something I get a disproportionate amount of enjoyment out of. I don't mind me admitting it took me a while to get the feel for the PCCB's but once I had I managed to get much happier with my ability to H&T...definitely harder to do in my car but it is still possible.
PCCB's are worth every penny in my opinion.....in a car as quick and capable as the 991.2 GTS you can't have enough stopping power in my opinion.
As I said in my earlier post I am surprised about the comments about the ride quality...it's miles better than my 997 GTS. I think this has big benefits too in the amount of grip/traction the car has....you can really accelerate out of bends with it in a way you can't in my car!
And regarding those PCCB's.....frankly RIDICULOUS stopping power. I've had ceramics on most of my recent cars but these are incredible. I wonder if it's because the car is so relatively light that they feel so good in comparison, because surely the ceramic brakes fitted on most cars are going to made by one (or at least very few) suppliers?
The brakes were the first thing I noticed when I drove my car for the first time. And one of course gets used to them very quickly, which then makes it interesting when getting in another car without them!
Cheib said:
I'd say lower it's got a pretty low spec and a very high mileage by the standards of these cars.
This on the other hand is almost "Nirvana" spec....PCCB's, Buckets, Manual and a lot of other expensive boxes ticked. £100k for a 10k mile car.
https://www.maundrells.co.uk/porsche-911-carrera-g...
Be interesting to see if it hangs around.
I don't think it's a bad buy, speccing a 991.2 to that level would be about £125k.This on the other hand is almost "Nirvana" spec....PCCB's, Buckets, Manual and a lot of other expensive boxes ticked. £100k for a 10k mile car.
https://www.maundrells.co.uk/porsche-911-carrera-g...
Be interesting to see if it hangs around.
Really small point but the leather stitched air vents look great and help give a bespoke look
Vipergreen said:
Cheib said:
I'd say lower it's got a pretty low spec and a very high mileage by the standards of these cars.
This on the other hand is almost "Nirvana" spec....PCCB's, Buckets, Manual and a lot of other expensive boxes ticked. £100k for a 10k mile car.
https://www.maundrells.co.uk/porsche-911-carrera-g...
Be interesting to see if it hangs around.
I don't think it's a bad buy, speccing a 991.2 to that level would be about £125k.This on the other hand is almost "Nirvana" spec....PCCB's, Buckets, Manual and a lot of other expensive boxes ticked. £100k for a 10k mile car.
https://www.maundrells.co.uk/porsche-911-carrera-g...
Be interesting to see if it hangs around.
Really small point but the leather stitched air vents look great and help give a bespoke look
Cheib said:
Vipergreen said:
Cheib said:
I'd say lower it's got a pretty low spec and a very high mileage by the standards of these cars.
This on the other hand is almost "Nirvana" spec....PCCB's, Buckets, Manual and a lot of other expensive boxes ticked. £100k for a 10k mile car.
https://www.maundrells.co.uk/porsche-911-carrera-g...
Be interesting to see if it hangs around.
I don't think it's a bad buy, speccing a 991.2 to that level would be about £125k.This on the other hand is almost "Nirvana" spec....PCCB's, Buckets, Manual and a lot of other expensive boxes ticked. £100k for a 10k mile car.
https://www.maundrells.co.uk/porsche-911-carrera-g...
Be interesting to see if it hangs around.
Really small point but the leather stitched air vents look great and help give a bespoke look
For me, I'm in a novel position in that I can afford a GTS. I really am hesitant though as that does depend on current income levels being maintained. Specifically in fin services which isn't a given. But that's my conundrum.
A question for you though, is a GTS *really* subjectively 20k better than a well-specced CS? I know it's a question only I can really answer, but have any of you made that specific judgement?
2010spy said:
I don't know if it's £20k *better* but it is an amazing car. I've started driving the long way everywhere and finding excuses to drive the car everywhere. I've done 2,250 miles in six weeks which is a record for me.
Wow. That's a lot of 'Bye, Doris, just out to pick up some milk'.'A question for you though, is a GTS *really* subjectively 20k better than a well-specced CS? I know it's a question only I can really answer, but have any of you made that specific judgement?'
That was my conundrum, I had ordered a well specified new C4S last year and when the .2 GTS was available earlier this year I jumped ship.
Never driven a GTS but the engine upgrade the look and other 'inclusions' on the GTS made it a no brainier considering the 'better spec/power' GTS came in at an additional £6.5k which included both GTS packs.
That was my conundrum, I had ordered a well specified new C4S last year and when the .2 GTS was available earlier this year I jumped ship.
Never driven a GTS but the engine upgrade the look and other 'inclusions' on the GTS made it a no brainier considering the 'better spec/power' GTS came in at an additional £6.5k which included both GTS packs.
paul789 said:
A question for you though, is a GTS *really* subjectively 20k better than a well-specced CS? I know it's a question only I can really answer, but have any of you made that specific judgement?
As the example on the post above - the difference would be far less than 20k, more like 5 to 8k I would say. Remember lots of the things you would specify on the S are standard on the GTS - also if you wanted the power of the GTS you would have to add the powerkit. One other thing to consider - especially if you would have a C2 S/GTS that you get the wide body on the GTS which is not available on the C2S. I think that vfm the GTS is a no brainer really.I'm still 50/50 at the moment about upgrade to the 991.2 GTS, I was waiting for a phone call from my dealer when their demo car arrives and as of yet I've not had any calls.
Has anyone upgrade from the 981 GTS and how are you finding it and what are the pro's and con's of upgrading. I've been through all the spec of the car I would order but i'm still completely undecided.
Has anyone upgrade from the 981 GTS and how are you finding it and what are the pro's and con's of upgrading. I've been through all the spec of the car I would order but i'm still completely undecided.
mc_blue said:
My friend's one didn't have the leather dash, makes so much difference.
I think it's the critical option to have,cabin feels so cheap without it.The stitching option is nice and makes the interior a little bit nicer and brightens it up,but not having it doesn't cheapen the car, not having the leather does.
Gorsh said:
As the example on the post above - the difference would be far less than 20k, more like 5 to 8k I would say. Remember lots of the things you would specify on the S are standard on the GTS - also if you wanted the power of the GTS you would have to add the powerkit. One other thing to consider - especially if you would have a C2 S/GTS that you get the wide body on the GTS which is not available on the C2S. I think that vfm the GTS is a no brainer really.
also you get tweaked suspension,pdk and steering as well as reduced spund insulation. perhaps some of these tweaks have made it to the S idk. combined with the GTS interior and i agree its a no-brainer. since we are talking finances id you did spec up an S to that extent it would be economic suicide as who want a used S close to GTS moneyGassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff