997 GT3 RS 3.8 known problems, issues? (Any owners, experts)

997 GT3 RS 3.8 known problems, issues? (Any owners, experts)

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Franzino

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494 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Digga said:
STOP IT!

Happy as I am with my 7.1 GT3, I've been mulling a 7.2 RS...

Did your mate ever put the Guards diff ramps and plates in? I had mine done early last year and it really did make a huge difference. As a very average, hamfisted amateur track driver, I was not convinced I'd be able to perceive the difference, but it really did transform the car for the better.
I don't think they changed anything on the diff.

Digga

40,317 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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TDT said:
Can you describe how exactly it feels better?... cheers.
Sounds daft, but under hard acceleration, coming out of a corner, (the tighter the corner, the more you feel it) you can literally feel it lock up and give a much more positive, predictable shove.

Apparently, there's supposedly also benefits under hard braking, but I have to say I've never really felt much deficiency in the old setup, or any benefit since fitting new, but perhaps back-to-back I might tell. Perhaps it's more subtle. Or I'm just never braking hard enough!

Yellow491

2,922 posts

119 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Digga said:
TDT said:
Can you describe how exactly it feels better?... cheers.
Sounds daft, but under hard acceleration, coming out of a corner, (the tighter the corner, the more you feel it) you can literally feel it lock up and give a much more positive, predictable shove.

Apparently, there's supposedly also benefits under hard braking, but I have to say I've never really felt much deficiency in the old setup, or any benefit since fitting new, but perhaps back-to-back I might tell. Perhaps it's more subtle. Or I'm just never braking hard enough!
Digga,its normaly when you lift off the throttle you feel the diff for braking,especially in the wet.
Also lift off mid corner,with a good set up and diff can tuck the nose nicely back in if you require it.

Digga

40,317 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Yellow491 said:
Digga said:
TDT said:
Can you describe how exactly it feels better?... cheers.
Sounds daft, but under hard acceleration, coming out of a corner, (the tighter the corner, the more you feel it) you can literally feel it lock up and give a much more positive, predictable shove.

Apparently, there's supposedly also benefits under hard braking, but I have to say I've never really felt much deficiency in the old setup, or any benefit since fitting new, but perhaps back-to-back I might tell. Perhaps it's more subtle. Or I'm just never braking hard enough!
Digga,its normaly when you lift off the throttle you feel the diff for braking,especially in the wet.
Also lift off mid corner,with a good set up and diff can tuck the nose nicely back in if you require it.
In that case, maybe when I was on the PEC Silverstone low-friction circuit at the "320" event last year - it was very, very easy to 'tip' into a drift by lifting (without braking) on the way into the sequence of left-right-left curves.

Harris_I

3,228 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Digga said:
ounds daft, but under hard acceleration, coming out of a corner, (the tighter the corner, the more you feel it) you can literally feel it lock up and give a much more positive, predictable shove.

Apparently, there's supposedly also benefits under hard braking, but I have to say I've never really felt much deficiency in the old setup, or any benefit since fitting new, but perhaps back-to-back I might tell. Perhaps it's more subtle. Or I'm just never braking hard enough!
I can't speak for the 997 but in the 996, if the car squirms like a frenzied eel into a high speed braking zone, it's a good sign to upgrade the original chocolate diff to Guards or similar.

430scuderia1

454 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Porsche911R said:
pretty bomb proof, just keep an eye on the centre locks, bought at the top of this bubble though so investment choice seems odd as cars just have not been selling, in fact OPC cars have been dropping as have JZM prices.

Buying to drive though one of Porsche best cars, enjoy ;-)
Are you sure about that.

See the ex Chris Harris 4.0L 997 has sold..

MartinRS2K

598 posts

119 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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430scuderia1 said:
Are you sure about that.

See the ex Chris Harris 4.0L 997 has sold..
Bought by a friend of mine smile

braddo

10,466 posts

188 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Harris_I said:
I can't speak for the 997 but in the 996, if the car squirms like a frenzied eel into a high speed braking zone, it's a good sign to upgrade the original chocolate diff to Guards or similar.
997.1 GT3 does this. thumbup

Not sure whether the rear brakes chime in to help moderate it.

Digga

40,317 posts

283 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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braddo said:
997.1 GT3 does this. thumbup

Not sure whether the rear brakes chime in to help moderate it.
They do and this is a problem. The 996 did not. It had 'proper' diff plate angles, but the 997 had weaker angles and the engineer's idea was to use the fancy tech in the ABS to augment the diff lockup. Not only does it not work as nicely - lacks 'feel' - it also burns out the brake pads.

People tracking these cars were unwittingly getting higher rear than front brake temperatures. Normally, fronts take the brunt of the work and get hottest, but people were knackering rear pads and sometimes even discs.

Great thread here: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...


430scuderia1

454 posts

218 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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MartinRS2K said:
Bought by a friend of mine smile
We have the same friend. I own the other 4.0L

Edited by 430scuderia1 on Friday 17th April 18:42

MartinRS2K

598 posts

119 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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430scuderia1 said:
We have the same friend. I own the other 4.0L

Edited by 430scuderia1 on Friday 17th April 18:42
Lucky man (not by knowing our friend, but by having the 4.0L) laugh

BeanoRS

4 posts

90 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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This might be a slight odd problem but in hotter climates the inside seal of the back window can perish. The window still seals , so no leaks, but when you shut the door you can see the window jump up with the air pressure. Just needs taking out and putting back in again and then you might as well fit a new window as they get a bit scratched up over time.

Maybe not a UK problem but good to check on those HK and Singapore cars that make it back to the UK RHD market after a few years.

Digga

40,317 posts

283 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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BeanoRS said:
This might be a slight odd problem but in hotter climates the inside seal of the back window can perish. The window still seals , so no leaks, but when you shut the door you can see the window jump up with the air pressure. Just needs taking out and putting back in again and then you might as well fit a new window as they get a bit scratched up over time.

Maybe not a UK problem but good to check on those HK and Singapore cars that make it back to the UK RHD market after a few years.
Perhaps the plastic screen has a different thermal expansion rate to glass?

Cheib

23,248 posts

175 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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BeanoRS said:
This might be a slight odd problem but in hotter climates the inside seal of the back window can perish. The window still seals , so no leaks, but when you shut the door you can see the window jump up with the air pressure. Just needs taking out and putting back in again and then you might as well fit a new window as they get a bit scratched up over time.

Maybe not a UK problem but good to check on those HK and Singapore cars that make it back to the UK RHD market after a few years.
From what I know it’s been cars going the other way for the last few years ! £ on it’s arse...

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

174 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11999384



I didn’t know there’s C16 Guards Red!

Nurburgsingh

5,119 posts

238 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Now that’s a lovely thing….

Slippydiff

14,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Zanzibar ... cloud9