£1M short but...

£1M short but...

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Yellow491

2,927 posts

120 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Its interesting on how other so called experts criticise porsche restoration.One place i would send my car would be porsche classic restoration shop outside of stuttgart,nothing to do with any opc.
I had a very impressive day with them last year,there are some details that can be a little wrong, but if you know your porsche cars you can easily steer to what you require.They do know how to reject imposters,that have been verified as the real deal by non factory experts.
I saw this car in a very stripped out stage of its life,very extensive work done on it,the shade may be a little off,but a nice car.
What was really impresive was the 1965 monte car,simply stunning 2500 plus hours resto,and still the over powered engine for class,the factory liked to win they said!

When comparing a 2.4s with a 2.7rs touring,thats one thing,but a lwt is something else that a 2.4 will not get anywhere near,the dk car was a lwt,and a very nice one to.

Slippydiff

14,852 posts

224 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Yellow491 said:
Its interesting on how other so called experts criticise porsche restoration.One place i would send my car would be porsche classic restoration shop outside of stuttgart,nothing to do with any opc.
I had a very impressive day with them last year,there are some details that can be a little wrong, but if you know your porsche cars you can easily steer to what you require.They do know how to reject imposters,that have been verified as the real deal by non factory experts.
I saw this car in a very stripped out stage of its life,very extensive work done on it,the shade may be a little off,but a nice car.
What was really impresive was the 1965 monte car,simply stunning 2500 plus hours resto,and still the over powered engine for class,the factory liked to win they said!

When comparing a 2.4s with a 2.7rs touring,thats one thing,but a lwt is something else that a 2.4 will not get anywhere near,the dk car was a lwt,and a very nice one to.
Hi Paul, I saw images of a restoration they'd done a couple of years ago (I can't remember what car it was) but some of the details were very wrong, be that materials, execution or standard of finish.

I had to buy numerous parts for my 964 RS restoration, my bodyshop guy rejected 2 front bumpers before we got a reasonable example. The dummy foglight covers now being supplied were a poor fit and the door skins had been badly fitted to the door casings (specifically the curve to the bottom, rear of the door) instead of being a nice constant radius, they were more akin to a 50 pence piece. Again we were forced to reject the doors and order replacements.

After the third set it became clear that "they were all like that", and with it taking at least a couple of weeks to return the parts and then get new ones sent over from Stuttgart, we were running out of time and effectively gave up hoping to get decent quality items.

Whilst sourcing parts for my 2.8 RSR build back in 2010, I said to Ben that the Bosch lift pumps were now being remanufactured and available from Porsche. He replied they were "sh*t and would leak ....."

Whereas these parts would formerly have been manufactured in West Germany, they appear to now be given to the lowest bidder in East Germany, irrespective of whether they actually possess the skills/tooling/knowledge to manufcature them properly.

Having searched for 9 and 11" Fuchs for the car back in 2009, Porsche did a limited ? run of 9's. I bought four, and whilst impressed with the weight ! ! I wasn't in the least bit impressed with the finish. It looked as if the dies/tooling had been left outdoors for 30-40 years, dragged back in, then ground with Stilhsaw to remove the corrosion, before being pressed back into production....

It's great that Porsche DO still manufacture these parts, it's only a shame they charge top dollar for what are now frequently poorer quality items.




Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Deisel Weisel said:
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Was about to say the same. Not a very good reputation those tyres, but maybe fitted to these cars when they left the factory?
Definitely not standard fitment. The Pirelli P6000 was standard with on a 2002 Ford fiesta Zetec-s. Shockingly crap tyres.

ChrisW.

6,327 posts

256 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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If it's the Leeds car as I think it is, Michael Betts told me that it was the one and only RHD 2.7RS that had been restored by the factory ...,

Koln-RS

3,870 posts

213 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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If it's the Leeds car then it's been for sale for a long time - so a good market indicator. And P6000s; they used to say they were made of 'bakelite', think there's a better version now

Yellow491

2,927 posts

120 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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The germans are not as fussy as most re finish etc,they are more concerned with function,they still dont get why people get hung up about orange peel etc.
The pumps are fine if mounted correctly,originals leaked to.
The correct 9 & 11 had not a great finish in period,some had no paint at all.The new 9 are not correct for rsr,if you want to be 100% accurate😄
Sadly they have lost the old boys,but you can educate them,and they are also legaly bound to fit porsche parts that have superseded the original,i remember pointing out the shape of the pre 73 engine bay panel,they said its not available from porsche!,now they modify the panel once they have covered the legal side.
To see 6 959 stripped down to the bare essentials for refurb is something else,along side a carrera speedster,next to the monte,next to the 918 accident repair,next to a 911sc,next to a 904 etc
What i mean by experts are the body shop and engine builders in the uk who know better than porsche;),plenty of them about.

neilf

836 posts

112 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Digga said:
Friend of my Dad bought a Saab Carlsson (anyone remember those) and sent it back to the garage because the ride was harsh and the handling poor. Turns out someone had left the transit packing in the springs...
OPC did the same on my new Boxster 3yrs ago... rolleyes

ChrisW.

6,327 posts

256 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Koln-RS said:
If it's the Leeds car then it's been for sale for a long time - so a good market indicator. And P6000s; they used to say they were made of 'bakelite', think there's a better version now
I thought possibly that it had been sold and was now being sold for the new owner ... ?

jonno_

140 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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SRT Hellcat said:
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Torsion bars and shocks cmoose no springs. Ride height is truly awful. I think there are far better people out there to restore a 2.7 RS.
Maybe Josh Sadler and Autofarm were booked too far ahead!

Robbo66

3,834 posts

234 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Need to look at different Specialists for different requirements. BS motorsport for pumps, Bruce at Sportwagen for body work, for example, second to none. Chris for suspension set up. They raised my RS quite a bit, not to the levels of the yellow one but still significant. Transformed the handling entirely, superb now. In my experience, no one specialist does it all.


Edited by Robbo66 on Thursday 9th March 20:57