991.2 GT3 - Colours. Spec. Q+A. etc etc..

[r1flyguy1]

Porsche911R said:

I did pay overs :-) , it's nothing like a turbo to drive, that does mean the cars for every one mind you.

Fair play to you. I’d still love one, maybe one day.

[PJI]

Steve Rance said:

Can I ask how many gen 2 owners have tracked their cars?

Yes I have in the same way that I did in my 996 and 997 GT3's. DN18 and the car was mega. Having had 4 manual GT3's prior to the 991.2 I went PDK and have absolutely no regrets.

Off on a euro tour next week so after that the car will probably be worthless

[RSVP911]

ted 191 said:

Porsche911R said:

2 manuals been sold off the OPC list,so down to only 7 manuals, 6 doom blue , one yellow with gash air vents !

I am still wowed by my GT3 in Manual as is every one who’s been in it to date, imo PDK don’t work with the car and is the RS choice.

Cheap car at £30k overs as there has only ever been one other 4.0l Manual GT3 and that’s 1/2 a mil.

So the nayslayers hoping for list are dreaming imo, if anything they will go up lol :-p nothing even close to it from any manafacture on the market, PDK opens up Ferrari and lambo and those buyers are buying those cars vs paying overs for an automatic GT3.
If I wanted a auto toady I would be picking up a AMG GTR £20k below list,great car at the money now.

4.0 Manual GT3, it’s a modern classic already, what a stunning drivers car.
Only car I have been in the last few years which makes me say wow and I giggle to myself.

Had a great day out today on a Prodrive factory tour, had a run in with the bmw owners club on my route back and thumbs up by every one.

Went to Top555 Thursday for their open night, it's amazing to go to super cars meets and realise you drive one of the only manuals there bar the baby GT4's.

Even Adam said it's the first manual GT3 he has seen at a meet up, what the fks wrong with people ? :-)

Edited by Porsche911R on Saturday 23 June 16:18

Emperors new clothes.........I did think it was that good to warrant the hype and manual gearboxes should only be fitted to cars with windy up windows.

Edited by ted 191 on Saturday 23 June 18:19

Bizarre post ; If you like manul cars the 991.2 GT3 with a manual box is automotive perfection for road driving. I’ve driven a lot of Porsche’s finest and this gets pretty close IMHO

[ted 191]

RSVP911 said:

Bizarre post ; If you like manul cars the 991.2 GT3 with a manual box is automotive perfection for road driving. I’ve driven a lot of Porsche’s finest and this gets pretty close IMHO

I don't do manual gearboxes any more and a GT3 wouldn't see which way a turbo S went, as I said GT3 is emperors new clothes, too much bks spoken without properly driving one.

[RSVP911]

ted 191 said:

RSVP911 said:

Bizarre post ; If you like manul cars the 991.2 GT3 with a manual box is automotive perfection for road driving. I’ve driven a lot of Porsche’s finest and this gets pretty close IMHO

I don't do manual gearboxes any more and a GT3 wouldn't see which way a turbo S went, as I said GT3 is emperors new clothes, too much bks spoken without properly driving one.

If you don’t like manuals then obviously a manual GT3 isn’t for you - which is fine.

I completely agree that a PDK Turbo S is quicker. Actually, in truth, in a straight line, a PDK 991.2 GTS is also quicker than a 991.2 Manual GT3.

However, a 991.2 Manual GT3 and a Turbo S are such different cars - although both are 911’s in reality, they are utterly incomparable on so many levels.

I have driven a Turbo S and I can quite categorically state that I couldn’t care less about it leaving a GT3 behind - if this is your measure of what makes a fine car then you will never get why a manual GT3 exists - IMHO one is a visceral engaging driving experience; an attack on your senses on so many levels, whilst the other is admittedly brutally efficient, but actually in my view, ultimately quite dull - but we all like different things so that’s good

Edited by RSVP911 on Sunday 24th June 08:11

[browngt3]

Well said!

Just been out for an early morning blast in this heavenly weather! Fuel light came on far too early, had to alter my usual fun route

Manual driving bliss though

[Steve Rance]

PJI said:

Yes I have in the same way that I did in my 996 and 997 GT3's. DN18 and the car was mega. Having had 4 manual GT3's prior to the 991.2 I went PDK and have absolutely no regrets.

Off on a euro tour next week so after that the car will probably be worthless

Glad that you are using as intended. Can I ask what was your main criteria when you Spencer the car?

[Porsche911R]

ted 191 said:

I don't do manual gearboxes any more and a GT3 wouldn't see which way a turbo S went, as I said GT3 is emperors new clothes, too much bks spoken without properly driving one.

That is most people view today, when did you give up enjoying driving ?

My dads 88 would not touch a turbo or automatic car, big ups to my dad :-).

I can understand why most people just want transport with a automatic a nice badge and a bit of poke though.

Is what it is I guess, and hence Porsche make a car for every one in most price brackets.

[ted 191]

Porsche911R said:

That is most people view today, when did you give up enjoying driving ?

My dads 88 would not touch a turbo or automatic car, big ups to my dad :-).

I can understand why most people just want transport with a automatic a nice badge and a bit of poke though.

Is what it is I guess, and hence Porsche make a car for every one in most price brackets.

I love driving, I get up early some mornings and just go for it, go on European tours looking for the best roads.

[Sierra Mike]

RSVP911 said:

ted 191 said:

RSVP911 said:

Bizarre post ; If you like manul cars the 991.2 GT3 with a manual box is automotive perfection for road driving. I’ve driven a lot of Porsche’s finest and this gets pretty close IMHO

I don't do manual gearboxes any more and a GT3 wouldn't see which way a turbo S went, as I said GT3 is emperors new clothes, too much bks spoken without properly driving one.

If you don’t like manuals then obviously a manual GT3 isn’t for you - which is fine.

I completely agree that a PDK Turbo S is quicker. Actually, in truth, in a straight line, a PDK 991.2 GTS is also quicker than a 991.2 Manual GT3.

However, a 991.2 Manual GT3 and a Turbo S are such different cars - although both are 911’s in reality, they are utterly incomparable on so many levels.

I have driven a Turbo S and I can quite categorically state that I couldn’t care less about it leaving a GT3 behind - if this is your measure of what makes a fine car then you will never get why a manual GT3 exists - IMHO one is a visceral engaging driving experience; an attack on your senses on so many levels, whilst the other is admittedly brutally efficient, but actually in my view, ultimately quite dull - but we all like different things so that’s good

I’ve considered the Turbo S on multiple occasions however I still enjoy driving and life is short. PDK makes for faster track times but lesser driver engagement than a manual; that’s not an opinion, it’s fact.

[APOLO1]

Porsche911R said:

That is most people view today, when did you give up enjoying driving ?

My dads 88 would not touch a turbo or automatic car, big ups to my dad :-).

I can understand why most people just want transport with a automatic a nice badge and a bit of poke though.

Is what it is I guess, and hence Porsche make a car for every one in most price brackets.

991 Turbos Imv is the best all round car, no question. But other than its warp like speed its a bit bland to drive to say the least. Based on my experience as for track car, it has about 3/4 very fast laps then a GT3.2PDK will be long gone. Tyres and brake cooling being the weak points.

Edited by APOLO1 on Sunday 24th June 09:37

[Porsche911R]

ted 191 said:

I love driving, I get up early some mornings and just go for it, go on European tours looking for the best roads.

Strange to do it in a car which does every thing for you then.
Come do a Donny track evening be interesting to see how much faster your turbo S is over my NA Manual.

[r1flyguy1]

Porsche911R said:

ted 191 said:

I love driving, I get up early some mornings and just go for it, go on European tours looking for the best roads.

Strange to do it in a car which does every thing for you then.
Come do a Donny track evening be interesting to see how much faster your turbo S is over my NA Manual.

The willy waving begins!!!

C’mon guys, lets not get onto the old my cars better than yours bks, each to their own and its largley down to driver ability anyway!

I love my pdk turboS, i had a Manual 997.1 turbo before which i tracked, different cars but both bloody competent at what they do.
This manual over pdk chat is just utter tosh as they are both great, F1 drivers must be st with their non manual gearboxes eh!!!!

I’d love a GT3, whether it be manual or pdk, just to have one would be nice. Lets have a bit of civility otherwise ill get the mods to ban you both (I have neither the authority or power to do so by the way) and banish you to the saxo forums where you can willy wave all you like

[Twinfan]

r1flyguy1 said:

The willy waving begins!!!

C’mon guys, lets not get onto the old my cars better than yours bks

Unfortunately, this is Porsche ownership in my experience

As my wife says, we're "Cayman scum" so we don't give a stuff about everyone else and enjoy ourselves our way!

[browngt3]

r1flyguy1 said:

This manual over pdk chat is just utter tosh as they are both great, F1 drivers must be st with their non manual gearboxes eh!!!!

Maybe they are compared to the old timers!!

A modern F1 car is automatic and full of electronics so easy to drive compared to the manual racers of old. Real men in those days when Motorsport was hard and dangerous. Real skill needed too

[isaldiri]

Twinfan said:

Unfortunately, this is Porsche ownership in my experience

As my wife says, we're "Cayman scum" so we don't give a stuff about everyone else and enjoy ourselves our way!

Not exactly true, the 981s have not been unknown turn their noses down on the 718s and the gt4 s on the gts, gts on the s and so on and so forth....same as the 911s!

[Phooey]

RSVP911 said:

I’ve driven a lot of Porsche’s finest and this gets pretty close IMHO

Which do you prefer (from a driving perspective) - 997.2 or 991.2?

[Twinfan]

isaldiri said:

Not exactly true, the 981s have not been unknown turn their noses down on the 718s and the gt4 s on the gts, gts on the s and so on and so forth....same as the 911s!

Very true, and I'm guilty as charged online when it comes to my view of the 718 engines - not the owners I might add. In real life I'd love to talk to other Porsche owners about their cars etc but the attitude of almost everyone we meet stinks.

Anyway, sorry to derail the thread

Edited by Twinfan on Sunday 24th June 10:20

[r1flyguy1]

Twinfan said:

In real life I'd love to talk to other Porsche owners about their cars etc but the attitude of almost everyone we meet stinks.

Edited by Twinfan on Sunday 24th June 10:20

It would be a pleasure to chat with you, I try my best not to claim my cars better than yours, etc, I like all porsches in their own way, they are Porsche but different.
Had a 986S loved it, had a 997.1tt loved it, have a 991.1tts, love that too, I will admit i love the Macan Diesel i have parked on the drive.

Anyway... GT3 991.2, they are st really arent they???????







Just kidding

[Twinfan]