991.2 GT3 - Colours. Spec. Q+A. etc etc..
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Porsche911R said:
I might do the ti bypass on my GT3,(also give more torques :-) ) counter the weight saving at the rear with a lipo battery, and fit the BBS forged wheel's
then add the Monoball RS LCA ends all round for more feel.
3 of the 4 best ways to save weight from the new GT3 imo. and sellable parts when done with it.
Saw these earlier on Rennlist...these are the wheels you're talking about aren't they ? They do look very good ! If they did them in a satin gold I might be tempted! How much lighter are they than OEM ? Not that I'd notice...much as I'd like to think I would.then add the Monoball RS LCA ends all round for more feel.
3 of the 4 best ways to save weight from the new GT3 imo. and sellable parts when done with it.
yep so nice, front 7.9 kg the rear is only 9.2kg.
Not sure on the oem. but the mags are 7kg front and they state "13kg saved compared to oem for the set" a rear RS mag is 9.5 in 21 so more than the Fi-R 20 at 9.2kg rear.
So seems a good saving in money and lbs over the Mag for money and oem for weight.
you can save 5kg with a ti bypass pipe and that also give more BHP and torque at 4.5k and 20kg with a liteblox battery.
Not sure on the oem. but the mags are 7kg front and they state "13kg saved compared to oem for the set" a rear RS mag is 9.5 in 21 so more than the Fi-R 20 at 9.2kg rear.
So seems a good saving in money and lbs over the Mag for money and oem for weight.
you can save 5kg with a ti bypass pipe and that also give more BHP and torque at 4.5k and 20kg with a liteblox battery.
Porsche911R said:
yep so nice, front 7.9 kg the rear is only 9.2kg.
Not sure on the oem. but the mags are 7kg front and they state "13kg saved compared to oem for the set" a rear RS mag is 9.5 in 21 so more than the Fi-R 20 at 9.2kg rear.
So seems a good saving in money and lbs over the Mag for money and oem for weight.
you can save 5kg with a ti bypass pipe and that also give more BHP and torque at 4.5k and 20kg with a liteblox battery.
So better bang for your £'s than the Manthey Magnesium as well then ? How much are the BBS ? Not sure on the oem. but the mags are 7kg front and they state "13kg saved compared to oem for the set" a rear RS mag is 9.5 in 21 so more than the Fi-R 20 at 9.2kg rear.
So seems a good saving in money and lbs over the Mag for money and oem for weight.
you can save 5kg with a ti bypass pipe and that also give more BHP and torque at 4.5k and 20kg with a liteblox battery.
Porsche911R said:
yep so nice, front 7.9 kg the rear is only 9.2kg.
Not sure on the oem. but the mags are 7kg front and they state "13kg saved compared to oem for the set" a rear RS mag is 9.5 in 21 so more than the Fi-R 20 at 9.2kg rear.
So seems a good saving in money and lbs over the Mag for money and oem for weight.
you can save 5kg with a ti bypass pipe and that also give more BHP and torque at 4.5k and 20kg with a liteblox battery.
Yep, the GT3 with the Fi-Rs,Li Ion light battery and Ti exhaust will improve the GT3 to a noticeable degree when combined together..Which Ti bypass to go for....do you pay the premium for Akrapovic evolution or save a wad and go for IPE's Ti exhaust..Not sure on the oem. but the mags are 7kg front and they state "13kg saved compared to oem for the set" a rear RS mag is 9.5 in 21 so more than the Fi-R 20 at 9.2kg rear.
So seems a good saving in money and lbs over the Mag for money and oem for weight.
you can save 5kg with a ti bypass pipe and that also give more BHP and torque at 4.5k and 20kg with a liteblox battery.
BBS will custom coat the Fi Rs any colour you want given extra lead time however they look great in either Black or silver..I actually prefer the look compared to BBS's Mag alloys..£6.8K is a great price as i've seen £7.6 inc VAT..
Taffy66 said:
..Which Ti bypass to go for....do you pay the premium for Akrapovic evolution or save a wad and go for IPE's Ti exhaust..
I am going with Jonny Cocker Racing ti by pass. his stuff is normally hi end so will try that for £1.4khttp://www.jcr-developments.com/porsche/product/99...
Porsche911R said:
I am going with Jonny Cocker Racing ti by pass. his stuff is normally hi end so will try that for £1.4k
http://www.jcr-developments.com/porsche/product/99...
I see he's sells the BBi-Rs for the £6.8k you quoted..Does this include VAT..? As i understand the BBi-Rs save 11kg of unsprung weight over the OEMs..http://www.jcr-developments.com/porsche/product/99...
Taffy66 said:
I agree with you that Porsche don't offer enough on their so called lightweight specials..Its nothing compared to Ferrari who always seem to find a solid 100Kg savings on their specials..The new 991.2 GT3 RS weighs identically to the GT3(1430kg) and i suspect thats with the WP.
I'm currently keeping an eye open on the 430 Scuderia which at 1350Kg is 100Kg lighter than the 430 coupe. Same goes for the 458 speciale..A lot of modern so called sport coupes are so heavy they actually need a couple of Turbos bolted on to make them genuinely fast,as its torque that shifts weight not BHP..
My idea of a perfect sportscar should be genuinely light with a high revving NASP which is why i'm looking at 430 Scuds..At over £100k less than the 458 Speciale and rarer its the sweet spot in Ferraris right now..At the same money i'd be Speciale all over but £100K+ buys you a lot of other metal IMO.
I drove both my 981 Spyder and GT3 over the weekend and i was surprised how fast the Spyder was..It then dawned on me that they both have pretty much identical 'Torque to weight ratios' courtesy of the Spyder being 115Kgs lighter.
There is no substitute for making sportscars lighter IMO with no need for Turbos..
Be careful with Ferrari weights. They always quote a dry weight and maybe a bit like their claimed bhp - a little optimistic.I'm currently keeping an eye open on the 430 Scuderia which at 1350Kg is 100Kg lighter than the 430 coupe. Same goes for the 458 speciale..A lot of modern so called sport coupes are so heavy they actually need a couple of Turbos bolted on to make them genuinely fast,as its torque that shifts weight not BHP..
My idea of a perfect sportscar should be genuinely light with a high revving NASP which is why i'm looking at 430 Scuds..At over £100k less than the 458 Speciale and rarer its the sweet spot in Ferraris right now..At the same money i'd be Speciale all over but £100K+ buys you a lot of other metal IMO.
I drove both my 981 Spyder and GT3 over the weekend and i was surprised how fast the Spyder was..It then dawned on me that they both have pretty much identical 'Torque to weight ratios' courtesy of the Spyder being 115Kgs lighter.
There is no substitute for making sportscars lighter IMO with no need for Turbos..
Agree, though about the Scud and Speciale. Beautiful cars but at that price a lot of interesting Porsche choice
RBT0 said:
Trofeo R better than MPSSC?
Trofeos also work (a lot) better in hot weather. cup2s ime go off pretty quickly after a few laps especially if the track temperature is high while trofeos are considerably more stable. Cup2s wear rate is exceptional for that kind of tyre though but if using mainly on track (as you just wouldn't use trofeos otherwise anyway) you'll probably heat cycle them first anyway so the longevity difference vs a trofeo possibly isn't so great on track.browngt3 said:
Be careful with Ferrari weights. They always quote a dry weight and maybe a bit like their claimed bhp - a little optimistic.
Well Porsche quote a kerb weight that is nowhere near any customer car too given they have every single weight saving option or option delete in the quoted factory weight. Both are imo equally misleading as they are not achievable.Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff