what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

[Orangecurry]

Seems we have a private-sale? reality at one end, and FGP fantasy at the other?

I know of two 50k mile 3.4s (in my village), and they'd probably both be more than happy with 20k.... deliriously happy even.

(But before you get excited, one is green with aerokit, but not being used, and the other is plain Jane Arctic.)

[RM]

Orangecurry said:

Seems we have a private-sale? reality at one end, and FGP fantasy at the other?

I know of two 50k mile 3.4s (in my village), and they'd probably both be more than happy with 20k.... deliriously happy even.

(But before you get excited, one is green with aerokit, but not being used, and the other is plain Jane Arctic.)

Green with aerokit sounds good. Maybe a niche appeal compared to yellow but better in my mind.

[GT6 Jonsey]

While we are on the topic of values
https://mart.pca.org/news/porsche-911-classic-club...

[Filibuster]

GT6 Jonsey said:

While we are on the topic of values
https://mart.pca.org/news/porsche-911-classic-club...

Is this going to charity? (Would be surprised if not)

While this is of no relevance to your ordinary 996, it is great to see the 996 has achieved classic status and Porsche and ever more people seem to acknowledge that.

[WojaWabbit]

Orangecurry said:

....so are you lot saying that an in-good-current-condition 100k miles 996 is worth 23k GBP?

From a trader, with warranty...

Honest question.

Edited by Orangecurry on Friday 9th June 17:57

I'd be hoping to pay under or as close to £20k as possible.

Not many dealers will take on 100k mile cars, and fewer will warranty them unless they underwrite it themselves.

Here's one on 88k, from a respected specialist dealer, warrantied. £22k, and I'd expect a deal given the current state of the market.

https://philipraby.co.uk/product/porsche-996-carre...

[jonny996]

WojaWabbit said:

I'd be hoping to pay under or as close to £20k as possible.

Not many dealers will take on 100k mile cars, and fewer will warranty them unless they underwrite it themselves.

Here's one on 88k, from a respected specialist dealer, warrantied. £22k, and I'd expect a deal given the current state of the market.

https://philipraby.co.uk/product/porsche-996-carre...

Really, you’d expect to negotiate 10% off!
I’m doing something wrong

[WojaWabbit]

jonny996 said:

WojaWabbit said:

I'd be hoping to pay under or as close to £20k as possible.

Not many dealers will take on 100k mile cars, and fewer will warranty them unless they underwrite it themselves.

Here's one on 88k, from a respected specialist dealer, warrantied. £22k, and I'd expect a deal given the current state of the market.

https://philipraby.co.uk/product/porsche-996-carre...

Really, you’d expect to negotiate 10% off!
I’m doing something wrong

Not quite!

I'd expect one that has gone over the 100k mile 'barrier' to be a bit less, then negotiate as much as possible from there.

[jonny996]

I’m glad mine is well over the 100K , I don’t have to worry about devaluing it by driving it
Still can’t think of anything else I’d rather have for £20K

[WojaWabbit]

jonny996 said:

I’m glad mine is well over the 100K , I don’t have to worry about devaluing it by driving it
Still can’t think of anything else I’d rather have for £20K

Absolutely! Same for me... although I'm a teensy bit over that figure now after starting off with a bargain bucket!

[ATM]

deutsche.diagnostics said:

CocoUK said:

Filibuster said:

CocoUK said:

HughG said:

There’s a bit more info on the car here https://rmsmotoring.com/forum/threads/porsche-911-...

A lightning quick googly suggests FGP mugged him for £32k a couple of years ago but fair play to the seller having used her for +7,000 miles in that time.
Perhaps he’s charging £1 per mile he’s enjoyed?

Mug is a bit stark, is a bit stark, isn't it? Yes £32k is steep for essentially a 100k miles 996 C2, but a) it is in a rare, very desirable spec (tough not for me, I'm boring and I like black) and b) it came from a very reputable dealer and has been properly prepped and came with a warranty.

Yes, £38k for a private sale is probably a bit too high, but in the end it is worth what someone else is paying for it. And maybe the seller doesn't want to sell at all (oh no honey, nobody wants to buy the Porker.... I guess we stay in the rented flat and keep German Bumblebee )

My mistake, I wrongly assumed FGP don a mask and truncheon when flogging Yellow paint for £9k premiums!

I wonder if the seller bought it thinking it would need nothing doing and has spent another £7k on it and doesn't understand that is simply upkeep of a 20 year old Porsche, you don't get that back.

Just back from my Holiday lads and catching up.

Have you missed Me?

I think it is interesting that a car bought from FGP for 32k with some level of prep then needed another 7k worth of stuff doing within 2 years. I would have been disappointed if this was Me. The ad doesn't mention what this was and I'm curious why.

The blurb above in the link does mention that FGP were selling 2 cars both aero with 9k difference. If this one was 32k I'm surprised they sold another car for 23k. That sounds almost too cheap for FGP. Maybe this one was more?

Anyway that's my 2 cents for now.

[deutsche.diagnostics]

ATM said:

Just back from my Holiday lads and catching up.

Have you missed Me?

I think it is interesting that a car bought from FGP for 32k with some level of prep then needed another 7k worth of stuff doing within 2 years. I would have been disappointed if this was Me. The ad doesn't mention what this was and I'm curious why.

The blurb above in the link does mention that FGP were selling 2 cars both aero with 9k difference. If this one was 32k I'm surprised they sold another car for 23k. That sounds almost too cheap for FGP. Maybe this one was more?

Anyway that's my 2 cents for now.

Always miss you!


Sorry, I wasn't saying there was another £7k of work done, but I have seen a few M3 adverts over the years where people have justified a £5k price rise in 12 months or so because they have spent £5k on doing bits and seem to think they should be getting that back for some reason.

Otherwise it is just someone trying their luck.


Wasn't the other speed yellow 996 a C4S, up at £41k?

[Chris Stott]

I bought mine for 22k 17 years ago. I’ve probably spent 30k on it over the years… does mean it’s now worth north of 50k?

Daft.

[IREvans]

Chris Stott said:

I bought mine for 22k 17 years ago. I’ve probably spent 30k on it over the years… does mean it’s now worth north of 50k?

Daft.

Yes it does….! For cars that I don’t really want to sell, I advertise for a silly number, and then if they do actually sell, brilliant…! I’ll then find something else…and so it continues…!

[ATM]

deutsche.diagnostics said:

Wasn't the other speed yellow 996 a C4S, up at £41k?

Yes

But it was also x51 so a real unicorn not just pretend. It had some interesting bits too like Bilstein B14 but I think that was removed. Possibly even the GT3 period Recaro buckets too. They did a video on their channel of the prep work for this one.

[deutsche.diagnostics]

ATM said:

Yes

But it was also x51 so a real unicorn not just pretend. It had some interesting bits too like Bilstein B14 but I think that was removed. Possibly even the GT3 period Recaro buckets too. They did a video on their channel of the prep work for this one.

I think some sellers just don't manage to get in the mindset of the buyer. And vice versa of course.


To some, 50 hours of work to get it right is worth £5k, to others, myself included who can do the work, that is 5 or 6 Sundays tinkering, and sure if someone else will do it great, here's £1500, but it doesn't add £5k as far as I'm concerned.

However, I am happy if £5k's worth of parts have been fitted to pay £5k extra for the parts. Which some don't seem to want to budget in to older car ownership.

[nunpuncher]

deutsche.diagnostics said:

Wasn't the other speed yellow 996 a C4S, up at £41k?

Yes, it was. And we had a very similar discussion when those 2 were for sale. Nobody could believe anyone would pay that sort of money yet along came not 1 but 2 buyers and the cars went... and they went fairly quickly if I remember correctly.

Some folk just want a very particular spec (isn't that what kicked this whole thread off? the quest for a GR aero 3.4 that never materialised?) When that happens it's a case of "find me another for sale". You can't compare rare spec cars to any old turbo as if I said "find me another" you could quite easily. It's not an indication of what all bog standard 996s are worth or what yellow aero cars are worth, it's just an indication of what that seller wants to let it go. Whether it sells or not will have zero affect on my boring silver C4

[nunpuncher]

So if you all thought an average mileage speed yellow, aero 3.4 was metal at £37K how about a low mileage boring old silver 3.6 cab for £33k

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385309756945?_trkparms=...

[Chris Stott]

A .2 c4 cab with skirts… at least it’s not a tip.

Not my sort of car, but if you want a cab that’s probably as good as you’ll find… I’m somehow less dismayed at the price of that than of the yellow car.

[IREvans]

Chris Stott said:

A .2 c4 cab with skirts… at least it’s not a tip.

Not my sort of car, but if you want a cab that’s probably as good as you’ll find… I’m somehow less dismayed at the price of that than of the yellow car.

I have a 2004 996 C2 tip coupe, without a sunroof, and it’s just superb. I won’t have a bad word said about the tiptronic gearbox…!

[Filibuster]

IREvans said:

I have a 2004 996 C2 tip coupe, without a sunroof, and it’s just superb. I won’t have a bad word said about the tiptronic gearbox…!

This. I think the Tip is looked upon way too often. While I'm the first to cry for a manual car, there are ever more times I find myself in the situation that I wouldn't mind a good autobox changing gears for me. This has of course to do with the individual driving profile. But being stuck in any form of traffic makes you really wish for an automatic.

I often fantasized about a 996 C4 Tip with a lift kit lately as the ultimate all year city runaround and adventurer 911

Oh, and BTW in case you haven't seen this before: