what is an 'early' 3.4 996?
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Slippydiff said:
Ed.Neumann said:
If they did have that much tilt they would be much nicer.
But you're right, it is the whole seat, the foam in the 9x7 seats are so much nicer, the leather is softer too, noticed this when the 997 first came out, jump out of a new 996 into a 997 and it was really obvious, so not the fact the leather has aged more on the 9x6.
You also feel like you are sit in the car with 9x7 seats too, the 9x6 ones always feel like you want to drop it down a few more clicks.
The 996 seats provide little if any support when "making progress" too. The 997 item I fitted temporarily was better, but these are another level altogether ...But you're right, it is the whole seat, the foam in the 9x7 seats are so much nicer, the leather is softer too, noticed this when the 997 first came out, jump out of a new 996 into a 997 and it was really obvious, so not the fact the leather has aged more on the 9x6.
You also feel like you are sit in the car with 9x7 seats too, the 9x6 ones always feel like you want to drop it down a few more clicks.
And they come with the added bonus that with them fitted, no one can get in the back (easily), so I've removed the rear seats, which in turn means there's an additional weight saving benefit ...
ATM said:
Slippydiff said:
The 996 seats provide little if any support when "making progress" too. The 997 item I fitted temporarily was better, but these are another level altogether ...
And they come with the added bonus that with them fitted, no one can get in the back (easily), so I've removed the rear seats, which in turn means there's an additional weight saving benefit ...
They look great. I've done the same - no rear seats now. And they come with the added bonus that with them fitted, no one can get in the back (easily), so I've removed the rear seats, which in turn means there's an additional weight saving benefit ...
Have you tried cleaning your rear window yet? I dont clean my car much but I am trying to manage damp so if I see condensation I try and attack it with a towel.
shalmaneser said:
Lovely seats and trim. Definitely a huge upgrade, although 997 sports seats are pretty good and a damn sight cheaper I bet!
Once the 996 crowd realised the 997 seats were a straight swap mechanically (if not from an electrical/wiring perspective) the prices of them increased almost overnight.And once Lee Sibley of 9 Werks fame did a video on his swap, the 997 seats became almost unobtainable…
The Cobras weren’t cheap, though they were no more than a pair of Pole Positions, along with the Recaro mounts, runners, seat belt fittings and floor adaptors, and probably less, plus I was able to order them trimmed to my spec, and I subsequently worked with Cobra to get the cushion foam spec that I needed to be comfortable in the seats.
All in all, it was a very pleasant and easy speccing/buying experience.
Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 13th March 09:11
I asked GTOne for a copy of all my service records with them as I’ve misplaced the originals sometime during a couple of moves. Pretty frightening seeing it all added up
Between 2008 and 2019… £22,704
Car went from 80k to 190k miles during that time.
Since then it’s had at least another £5-6k to sort the rust and body work, plus servicing and some mechanicals.
Now at 226k miles.
So around 20ppm in upkeep, excluding tyres (lots!) and any upgrades I paid for myself, like the Momo wheel and ICE.
Plus around 7ppm in depreciation (assuming it’s worth £9-10k).
Not sure that’s good or bad
Looks like I’ll be handing my thread cards in soon as we’re currently looking for something a bit more suitable for my wife’s needs… and it’s not really going to work shipping it out here to Spain .
Between 2008 and 2019… £22,704
Car went from 80k to 190k miles during that time.
Since then it’s had at least another £5-6k to sort the rust and body work, plus servicing and some mechanicals.
Now at 226k miles.
So around 20ppm in upkeep, excluding tyres (lots!) and any upgrades I paid for myself, like the Momo wheel and ICE.
Plus around 7ppm in depreciation (assuming it’s worth £9-10k).
Not sure that’s good or bad
Looks like I’ll be handing my thread cards in soon as we’re currently looking for something a bit more suitable for my wife’s needs… and it’s not really going to work shipping it out here to Spain .
ATM said:
Has anyone got experience of changing the clutch pipe flexi - specifically how it joins to the rigid pipe?
You are in for a world of pain.Theres an aircraft style "quick connector" on the end of the hard line, this goes on the end of the pipe in the pic.
I believe this is so that when the body meets the gearbox at the factory, they can be just pushed together.
The quick connecor will be rotten and won't seperate from the old flexy no matter what you do.
So... you either need a new hardline from Porsche, superceeded part that has no connector (££££££), or get creative and junk that flexy you have, chop the quick connector off the hardline and join with brake pipe components.
The spiral I can only think is there to give a bit of cooling to the fluid, can be recreated easily enough.
This connector is only present on early cars, later cars have one piece.
see also: https://rennlist.com/forums/boxster-and-boxster-s-...
https://rennlist.com/forums/boxster-and-boxster-s-...
Edited by was8v on Wednesday 13th March 21:02
Chris Stott said:
I asked GTOne for a copy of all my service records with them as I’ve misplaced the originals sometime during a couple of moves. Pretty frightening seeing it all added up
Between 2008 and 2019… £22,704
Car went from 80k to 190k miles during that time.
Since then it’s had at least another £5-6k to sort the rust and body work, plus servicing and some mechanicals.
Now at 226k miles.
So around 20ppm in upkeep, excluding tyres (lots!) and any upgrades I paid for myself, like the Momo wheel and ICE.
Plus around 7ppm in depreciation (assuming it’s worth £9-10k).
Not sure that’s good or bad
Looks like I’ll be handing my thread cards in soon as we’re currently looking for something a bit more suitable for my wife’s needs… and it’s not really going to work shipping it out here to Spain .
That seems pretty decent cost to me for 110k in a premium end car?Between 2008 and 2019… £22,704
Car went from 80k to 190k miles during that time.
Since then it’s had at least another £5-6k to sort the rust and body work, plus servicing and some mechanicals.
Now at 226k miles.
So around 20ppm in upkeep, excluding tyres (lots!) and any upgrades I paid for myself, like the Momo wheel and ICE.
Plus around 7ppm in depreciation (assuming it’s worth £9-10k).
Not sure that’s good or bad
Looks like I’ll be handing my thread cards in soon as we’re currently looking for something a bit more suitable for my wife’s needs… and it’s not really going to work shipping it out here to Spain .
This has had a lot of maintenance work done to it recently, looks like it needs some cosmetic work though.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403197...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403197...
Hippea said:
This has had a lot of maintenance work done to it recently, looks like it needs some cosmetic work though.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403197...
Looks like a good buy tbh. Anyone out of their mind enough to cough up for N rated tyres for a 25 year old Porsche is probably the sort of person you want as a previous owner.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403197...
Rather than replacing arms, wishbones etc with OEM or aftermarket, i decided to go down the polybush (Powerflex) route. Yesterday I dropped the rear subframe, pressed out the old bushes and dropped in some fresh purple ones. Not that difficult really. Gotta say, the alloy cast subframe is nicely engineering and light. Obviously removing the subframe meant removing all the arms as well, which I'll be replacing the bushes on those as well.
Next step will be alignment.
Next step will be alignment.
Edited by Rich_ on Friday 22 March 13:58
ATM said:
Fast Bug said:
https://autofarm.co.uk/2002-porsche-911-996-carrer...
I see it's now POA, when the ad went live last week it was priced at £42k....
So is an Autofarm engine as good or the same as a Hartech engine?
Rich_ said:
Rather than replacing arms, wishbones etc with OEM or aftermarket, i decided to go down the polybush (Powerflex) route. Yesterday I dropped the rear subframe, pressed out the old bushes and dropped in some fresh purple ones. Not that difficult really. Gotta say, the alloy cast subframe is nicely engineering and light. Obviously removing the subframe meant removing all the arms as well, which I'll be replacing the bushes on those as well.
Next step will be alignment.
Nice XC. There, I got it right this time Next step will be alignment.
Edited by Rich_ on Friday 22 March 13:58
Will be interesting to hear a report on how it feels with the poly bushes. I replaced a large number of the bushes on my other car with poly ones and I fear I've completely ruined it. Bumps and potholes just jolt through the body horribly.
Slippydiff said:
shalmaneser said:
Lovely seats and trim. Definitely a huge upgrade, although 997 sports seats are pretty good and a damn sight cheaper I bet!
Once the 996 crowd realised the 997 seats were a straight swap mechanically (if not from an electrical/wiring perspective) the prices of them increased almost overnight.And once Lee Sibley of 9 Werks fame did a video on his swap, the 997 seats became almost unobtainable…
The Cobras weren’t cheap, though they were no more than a pair of Pole Positions, along with the Recaro mounts, runners, seat belt fittings and floor adaptors, and probably less, plus I was able to order them trimmed to my spec, and I subsequently worked with Cobra to get the cushion foam spec that I needed to be comfortable in the seats.
All in all, it was a very pleasant and easy speccing/buying experience.
Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 13th March 09:11
The 996 seats were so bad that I actually just left them in the attic when we moved house.
nunpuncher said:
Rich_ said:
Rather than replacing arms, wishbones etc with OEM or aftermarket, i decided to go down the polybush (Powerflex) route. Yesterday I dropped the rear subframe, pressed out the old bushes and dropped in some fresh purple ones. Not that difficult really. Gotta say, the alloy cast subframe is nicely engineering and light. Obviously removing the subframe meant removing all the arms as well, which I'll be replacing the bushes on those as well.
Next step will be alignment.
Nice XC. There, I got it right this time Next step will be alignment.
Edited by Rich_ on Friday 22 March 13:58
Will be interesting to hear a report on how it feels with the poly bushes. I replaced a large number of the bushes on my other car with poly ones and I fear I've completely ruined it. Bumps and potholes just jolt through the body horribly.
Read good things about the bushes on the 996 (and some cons) eg. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... I've not driven it yet (I need to insure the car first) but will do during the week. It's not my main car, plus i've also got RS engine mounts as well, so NVH is pretty high anyway.
Edited by Rich_ on Saturday 23 March 19:32
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