what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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Philvrs

538 posts

97 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Slippydiff said:
And those aren't even the more supportive 997 "Sports" seats. Of which I could have sold you a drivers side for the princely sum of £275 ... smile
Email sent

PRO 5T

3,943 posts

25 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Slippy, did you ever find that Manthey info you were going to email me?

Slippydiff

14,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 12th March
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PRO 5T said:
Slippy, did you ever find that Manthey info you were going to email me?
Doh !! Thought I’d sent it to you AND Tyrone (TDT) but it only went to Tyrone.
My apologies, will send it to you from my PC later today.

PRO 5T

3,943 posts

25 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Slippydiff said:
PRO 5T said:
Slippy, did you ever find that Manthey info you were going to email me?
Doh !! Thought I’d sent it to you AND Tyrone (TDT) but it only went to Tyrone.
My apologies, will send it to you from my PC later today.
Cheers buddy, received thumbup

ATM

18,289 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Has anyone got experience of changing the clutch pipe flexi - specifically how it joins to the rigid pipe?



shalmaneser

5,934 posts

195 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Slippydiff said:
Ed.Neumann said:
If they did have that much tilt they would be much nicer. biggrin

But you're right, it is the whole seat, the foam in the 9x7 seats are so much nicer, the leather is softer too, noticed this when the 997 first came out, jump out of a new 996 into a 997 and it was really obvious, so not the fact the leather has aged more on the 9x6.

You also feel like you are sit in the car with 9x7 seats too, the 9x6 ones always feel like you want to drop it down a few more clicks.
The 996 seats provide little if any support when "making progress" too. The 997 item I fitted temporarily was better, but these are another level altogether ...



And they come with the added bonus that with them fitted, no one can get in the back (easily), so I've removed the rear seats, which in turn means there's an additional weight saving benefit ... smile
Lovely seats and trim. Definitely a huge upgrade, although 997 sports seats are pretty good and a damn sight cheaper I bet!

Slippydiff

14,830 posts

223 months

Wednesday 13th March
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ATM said:
Slippydiff said:
The 996 seats provide little if any support when "making progress" too. The 997 item I fitted temporarily was better, but these are another level altogether ...



And they come with the added bonus that with them fitted, no one can get in the back (easily), so I've removed the rear seats, which in turn means there's an additional weight saving benefit ... smile
They look great. I've done the same - no rear seats now.

Have you tried cleaning your rear window yet? I dont clean my car much but I am trying to manage damp so if I see condensation I try and attack it with a towel.
I cleaned the inside of the rear window before I fitted the seats. But the passenger seat would take all of 10 minutes to remove, and in turn would make cleaning the rear window a lot easier, and probably result in a far better job too …

Slippydiff

14,830 posts

223 months

Wednesday 13th March
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shalmaneser said:
Lovely seats and trim. Definitely a huge upgrade, although 997 sports seats are pretty good and a damn sight cheaper I bet!
Once the 996 crowd realised the 997 seats were a straight swap mechanically (if not from an electrical/wiring perspective) the prices of them increased almost overnight.
And once Lee Sibley of 9 Werks fame did a video on his swap, the 997 seats became almost unobtainable…

The Cobras weren’t cheap, though they were no more than a pair of Pole Positions, along with the Recaro mounts, runners, seat belt fittings and floor adaptors, and probably less, plus I was able to order them trimmed to my spec, and I subsequently worked with Cobra to get the cushion foam spec that I needed to be comfortable in the seats.
All in all, it was a very pleasant and easy speccing/buying experience.

Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 13th March 09:11

Chris Stott

13,367 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th March
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I asked GTOne for a copy of all my service records with them as I’ve misplaced the originals sometime during a couple of moves. Pretty frightening seeing it all added up laugh

Between 2008 and 2019… £22,704

Car went from 80k to 190k miles during that time.

Since then it’s had at least another £5-6k to sort the rust and body work, plus servicing and some mechanicals.

Now at 226k miles.

So around 20ppm in upkeep, excluding tyres (lots!) and any upgrades I paid for myself, like the Momo wheel and ICE.

Plus around 7ppm in depreciation (assuming it’s worth £9-10k).

Not sure that’s good or bad laugh

Looks like I’ll be handing my thread cards in soon as we’re currently looking for something a bit more suitable for my wife’s needs… and it’s not really going to work shipping it out here to Spain frown.

was8v

1,937 posts

195 months

Wednesday 13th March
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ATM said:
Has anyone got experience of changing the clutch pipe flexi - specifically how it joins to the rigid pipe?


You are in for a world of pain.

Theres an aircraft style "quick connector" on the end of the hard line, this goes on the end of the pipe in the pic.

I believe this is so that when the body meets the gearbox at the factory, they can be just pushed together.

The quick connecor will be rotten and won't seperate from the old flexy no matter what you do.

So... you either need a new hardline from Porsche, superceeded part that has no connector (££££££), or get creative and junk that flexy you have, chop the quick connector off the hardline and join with brake pipe components.

The spiral I can only think is there to give a bit of cooling to the fluid, can be recreated easily enough.

This connector is only present on early cars, later cars have one piece.

see also: https://rennlist.com/forums/boxster-and-boxster-s-...

https://rennlist.com/forums/boxster-and-boxster-s-...

Edited by was8v on Wednesday 13th March 21:02

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Chris Stott said:
I asked GTOne for a copy of all my service records with them as I’ve misplaced the originals sometime during a couple of moves. Pretty frightening seeing it all added up laugh

Between 2008 and 2019… £22,704

Car went from 80k to 190k miles during that time.

Since then it’s had at least another £5-6k to sort the rust and body work, plus servicing and some mechanicals.

Now at 226k miles.

So around 20ppm in upkeep, excluding tyres (lots!) and any upgrades I paid for myself, like the Momo wheel and ICE.

Plus around 7ppm in depreciation (assuming it’s worth £9-10k).

Not sure that’s good or bad laugh

Looks like I’ll be handing my thread cards in soon as we’re currently looking for something a bit more suitable for my wife’s needs… and it’s not really going to work shipping it out here to Spain frown.
That seems pretty decent cost to me for 110k in a premium end car?

ATM

18,289 posts

219 months

Tuesday 19th March
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One of my friends arrived in Thailand and sent me this at 3am


Fast Bug

11,689 posts

161 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Bangkok, probably the only place on earth I'd want to be driving a tiptronic. Walking is faster than the traffic moves there laugh

Hippea

1,802 posts

69 months

Wednesday 20th March
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This has had a lot of maintenance work done to it recently, looks like it needs some cosmetic work though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403197...

shalmaneser

5,934 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th March
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Hippea said:
This has had a lot of maintenance work done to it recently, looks like it needs some cosmetic work though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403197...
Looks like a good buy tbh. Anyone out of their mind enough to cough up for N rated tyres for a 25 year old Porsche is probably the sort of person you want as a previous owner.

Rich_

1,960 posts

204 months

Friday 22nd March
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Rather than replacing arms, wishbones etc with OEM or aftermarket, i decided to go down the polybush (Powerflex) route. Yesterday I dropped the rear subframe, pressed out the old bushes and dropped in some fresh purple ones. Not that difficult really. Gotta say, the alloy cast subframe is nicely engineering and light. Obviously removing the subframe meant removing all the arms as well, which I'll be replacing the bushes on those as well.





Next step will be alignment.

Edited by Rich_ on Friday 22 March 13:58

ATM

18,289 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd March
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ATM said:
Fast Bug said:


https://autofarm.co.uk/2002-porsche-911-996-carrer...

I see it's now POA, when the ad went live last week it was priced at £42k....
Feels expensive to Me. And I just dont like Yellow on none Aero cars.

So is an Autofarm engine as good or the same as a Hartech engine?
I didn't realise it also has a 3.9 engine conversion. That changes the game a bit.

nunpuncher

3,384 posts

125 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Rich_ said:
Rather than replacing arms, wishbones etc with OEM or aftermarket, i decided to go down the polybush (Powerflex) route. Yesterday I dropped the rear subframe, pressed out the old bushes and dropped in some fresh purple ones. Not that difficult really. Gotta say, the alloy cast subframe is nicely engineering and light. Obviously removing the subframe meant removing all the arms as well, which I'll be replacing the bushes on those as well.





Next step will be alignment.

Edited by Rich_ on Friday 22 March 13:58
Nice XC. There, I got it right this time wink

Will be interesting to hear a report on how it feels with the poly bushes. I replaced a large number of the bushes on my other car with poly ones and I fear I've completely ruined it. Bumps and potholes just jolt through the body horribly.

nunpuncher

3,384 posts

125 months

Saturday 23rd March
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Slippydiff said:
shalmaneser said:
Lovely seats and trim. Definitely a huge upgrade, although 997 sports seats are pretty good and a damn sight cheaper I bet!
Once the 996 crowd realised the 997 seats were a straight swap mechanically (if not from an electrical/wiring perspective) the prices of them increased almost overnight.
And once Lee Sibley of 9 Werks fame did a video on his swap, the 997 seats became almost unobtainable…

The Cobras weren’t cheap, though they were no more than a pair of Pole Positions, along with the Recaro mounts, runners, seat belt fittings and floor adaptors, and probably less, plus I was able to order them trimmed to my spec, and I subsequently worked with Cobra to get the cushion foam spec that I needed to be comfortable in the seats.
All in all, it was a very pleasant and easy speccing/buying experience.

Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 13th March 09:11
I fitted standard 997 seats in mine and they are a revelation compared to both the comfort seats that were in my c4 and the sports seats I had in my 996tt.

The 996 seats were so bad that I actually just left them in the attic when we moved house.

Rich_

1,960 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd March
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nunpuncher said:
Rich_ said:
Rather than replacing arms, wishbones etc with OEM or aftermarket, i decided to go down the polybush (Powerflex) route. Yesterday I dropped the rear subframe, pressed out the old bushes and dropped in some fresh purple ones. Not that difficult really. Gotta say, the alloy cast subframe is nicely engineering and light. Obviously removing the subframe meant removing all the arms as well, which I'll be replacing the bushes on those as well.





Next step will be alignment.

Edited by Rich_ on Friday 22 March 13:58
Nice XC. There, I got it right this time wink

Will be interesting to hear a report on how it feels with the poly bushes. I replaced a large number of the bushes on my other car with poly ones and I fear I've completely ruined it. Bumps and potholes just jolt through the body horribly.
Ha, hello old chap. wink

Read good things about the bushes on the 996 (and some cons) eg. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... I've not driven it yet (I need to insure the car first) but will do during the week. It's not my main car, plus i've also got RS engine mounts as well, so NVH is pretty high anyway.



Edited by Rich_ on Saturday 23 March 19:32