what is an 'early' 3.4 996?
Discussion
ATM said:
Anything can be saved, whether it’s financially viable to do so, or whether it’s worthwhile, is another matter altogether …
That aside, and you appearing to be the RSPCA for poorly 996’s, it looks to be right up your street
Slippydiff said:
ATM said:
Anything can be saved, whether it’s financially viable to do so, or whether it’s worthwhile, is another matter altogether …That aside, and you appearing to be the RSPCA for poorly 996’s, it looks to be right up your street
After that, what spannering skills do you have? I’ve not looked for a few years, but a full suspension rebuild must be £3k or so in parts?
Remove the s
t from the interior. The unknown is rust repair… if it’s rusting in the places shown in the photos it’s almost certainly rusty in the usual places… front and rear arches, behind those stuck skirts. Could easily be looking at a couple of grand there inc. paint.
I guess it's worth saving for someone that doesn't have 20k in there pocket right now. Kinda pay as you go which i did when i built my ST. My fear with these 10k cars is there not worth the hassle at the current value compared to a mint well looked after one. That car could swallow 15k or so and it will still have 125k on the clock.
DanG355 said:
I signed up to the Porsche Classic scheme (free) at Porsche Colchester a few months ago and was given a pair of number plate surrounds. Got the welcome pack with a nice membership card a few weeks later.
Apologies, stupid question time. I take it it’s best to go Mon-Fri when service desk open, I’m assuming the sales team are not interested
jonny996 said:
Arghh, I parked 1cm to close to the garage wall and cracked the front number plate surround, idiot.
Got me thinking, do I remember correctly that there is some sort of official Porsche classic scheme where you get Porsche classic number plate surround.
If I have that correct, anyone know how I get it?
Cheers
You can buy the Porsche Classic numberplate frames on eBay.........Got me thinking, do I remember correctly that there is some sort of official Porsche classic scheme where you get Porsche classic number plate surround.
If I have that correct, anyone know how I get it?
Cheers
Chris Stott said:
Depends if the original headlights and rear lights come with the car… if not, you’re looking at a grand for 2nd hand replacements.
After that, what spannering skills do you have? I’ve not looked for a few years, but a full suspension rebuild must be £3k or so in parts?
Remove the st from the interior.
The unknown is rust repair… if it’s rusting in the places shown in the photos it’s almost certainly rusty in the usual places… front and rear arches, behind those stuck skirts. Could easily be looking at a couple of grand there inc. paint.
When I did a suspension refresh about 3 yrs ago it was about £2.2k for all the parts (Bilstein B8s, H&R springs, coffin arms, control arms, top mounts etc etc. but it’s also then what else the car is hiding I.e. how good are the front rads & how’s the clutch and water pump for example (the recent service history should be a reasonable read for the sums mentioned).After that, what spannering skills do you have? I’ve not looked for a few years, but a full suspension rebuild must be £3k or so in parts?
Remove the s
t from the interior. The unknown is rust repair… if it’s rusting in the places shown in the photos it’s almost certainly rusty in the usual places… front and rear arches, behind those stuck skirts. Could easily be looking at a couple of grand there inc. paint.
As you say, it’s the bodywork that is the real unknown but a good small body shop (who isn’t VAT registered) could make the budget go a long way but it’s still a 100k mile plus C2 with the wrong wheels on it!
Mine has failed its MOT on emissions (CO and lambda/O2) and play in the rear lower arm ball joints. This is frustrating as its just had new lambda sensors and seems to be running really well! I've ordered new lower arms, and eccentrics bolts. I'll get them fitted and will have a poke around to see if somethings has worked loose and the exhaust is leaking. No mention of HCs (but I haven't seen the results/print out yet) so hopefully a leak and not failing CATs. Last year Precision said it had some of the lowest emissions they've seen.
HughG said:
Mine has failed its MOT on emissions (CO and lambda/O2) and play in the rear lower arm ball joints. This is frustrating as its just had new lambda sensors and seems to be running really well! I've ordered new lower arms, and eccentrics bolts. I'll get them fitted and will have a poke around to see if somethings has worked loose and the exhaust is leaking. No mention of HCs (but I haven't seen the results/print out yet) so hopefully a leak and not failing CATs. Last year Precision said it had some of the lowest emissions they've seen.
1st place I’d be looking is manifold leak. Only time I failed emissions was down to that… my cats are still original at 230k miles. Chris Stott said:
HughG said:
Mine has failed its MOT on emissions (CO and lambda/O2) and play in the rear lower arm ball joints. This is frustrating as its just had new lambda sensors and seems to be running really well! I've ordered new lower arms, and eccentrics bolts. I'll get them fitted and will have a poke around to see if somethings has worked loose and the exhaust is leaking. No mention of HCs (but I haven't seen the results/print out yet) so hopefully a leak and not failing CATs. Last year Precision said it had some of the lowest emissions they've seen.
1st place I’d be looking is manifold leak. Only time I failed emissions was down to that… my cats are still original at 230k miles. 
Incredibly helpful, ATM & Orangecurry thank you for taking the time.
Here is how the car currently sits (old pic, it's actually got a blown an engine and sitting in storage)
Current thinking.
I'm going to go with 7.5J on the front. I believe this will allow me to go with either 205/50 OR 225/45 tyres. A little bit more front end grip/turn in vs the 7J, and can still fit the narrower tyres which the 8J wheels won't accept.
On the rear we'll go with 9J.
The bit I'm trying to figure out is offset which is purely aesthetic.
Here is a picture of the standard car with ET55 front and rear, which is pretty much perfection. I think I will be running this ride height:
and another
They don't look too deeply recessed. However this picture with standard ET55 offsets looks too recessed for my liking:
whereas this set up with a 15mm spacer, although you say it has impacted steering feel, feels like it's worthwhile because it looks better balanced without looking too aggressive:
CONCLUSION:
17 inch wheels, 7.5J front 9J rear, ET40 front and rear.
My plan is to try and find and RUF speedline style wheel but slightly updated for the 996.
As per your previous post - linked below - about this the standard Porsche 17 inch wheels are et55 F and R. I now have 3 sets of these. Depending on how high or how low the suspension is you get a reasonable or massive gap from wheel to arch. I'll add some pics which hopefully demonstrate. I experimented with a 15mm spacer to give et40 on fronts. It definitely affected the steering feel on my more feelsome car. I also experimented with using 4 x rear wheels and therefore 4 x 255 40 tyres. This obviously affected the steering feel too.
It's also worth mentioning that the 997 uses a slightly lower - more inboard - offset - et57 - in its 18 inch setup compared to the 996 18 inch setup - et50. So is Porsche trying to change steering feel on the newer car by increasing offset or is there a different reason for this?
To answer your question you need to decide how much you worry about the look of the car having a big gap between rim to arch and it will depend on how low the car is. Also if the steering will feel different to you using different offsets and if this is something you prefer or dislike. I know which setup I preferred feel wise but you may be different to Me.
What wheels do you have on now and what suspension setup do you have?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
No spacers standard front and rear wheels
4 rear wheels
15mm spacers front standard front and rear wheels
Different car here again no spacers standard front and rear wheels
Edited
Higher / Lower offset correction
Here is how the car currently sits (old pic, it's actually got a blown an engine and sitting in storage)
Current thinking.
I'm going to go with 7.5J on the front. I believe this will allow me to go with either 205/50 OR 225/45 tyres. A little bit more front end grip/turn in vs the 7J, and can still fit the narrower tyres which the 8J wheels won't accept.
On the rear we'll go with 9J.
The bit I'm trying to figure out is offset which is purely aesthetic.
Here is a picture of the standard car with ET55 front and rear, which is pretty much perfection. I think I will be running this ride height:
and another
They don't look too deeply recessed. However this picture with standard ET55 offsets looks too recessed for my liking:
whereas this set up with a 15mm spacer, although you say it has impacted steering feel, feels like it's worthwhile because it looks better balanced without looking too aggressive:
CONCLUSION:
17 inch wheels, 7.5J front 9J rear, ET40 front and rear.
My plan is to try and find and RUF speedline style wheel but slightly updated for the 996.
ATM said:
chappardababbar said:
Hi everyone I’m having some custom wheels made in 17 inch.
what would be the offsets in the picture attached? Is it ET55 front and rear?
I quite like the period look with the wheels sitting inside the arches so I’m thinking to go this route.
Tyre size would be Michelin PS4 205/50/17 on the front axle, and 255/40/17 on the rear
Wheels - 7.5 on the front and 9 on the back, as I said, ET55 front and rear.
Going for comfort and the period look. Before I pull the trigger I wanted to run it by the beards in this group.
Are there any considerations? Any good reason to go with an alternative set up? If so what and why?
Thank you
There is no picture attached?what would be the offsets in the picture attached? Is it ET55 front and rear?
I quite like the period look with the wheels sitting inside the arches so I’m thinking to go this route.
Tyre size would be Michelin PS4 205/50/17 on the front axle, and 255/40/17 on the rear
Wheels - 7.5 on the front and 9 on the back, as I said, ET55 front and rear.
Going for comfort and the period look. Before I pull the trigger I wanted to run it by the beards in this group.
Are there any considerations? Any good reason to go with an alternative set up? If so what and why?
Thank you
As per your previous post - linked below - about this the standard Porsche 17 inch wheels are et55 F and R. I now have 3 sets of these. Depending on how high or how low the suspension is you get a reasonable or massive gap from wheel to arch. I'll add some pics which hopefully demonstrate. I experimented with a 15mm spacer to give et40 on fronts. It definitely affected the steering feel on my more feelsome car. I also experimented with using 4 x rear wheels and therefore 4 x 255 40 tyres. This obviously affected the steering feel too.
It's also worth mentioning that the 997 uses a slightly lower - more inboard - offset - et57 - in its 18 inch setup compared to the 996 18 inch setup - et50. So is Porsche trying to change steering feel on the newer car by increasing offset or is there a different reason for this?
To answer your question you need to decide how much you worry about the look of the car having a big gap between rim to arch and it will depend on how low the car is. Also if the steering will feel different to you using different offsets and if this is something you prefer or dislike. I know which setup I preferred feel wise but you may be different to Me.
What wheels do you have on now and what suspension setup do you have?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
No spacers standard front and rear wheels
4 rear wheels
15mm spacers front standard front and rear wheels
Different car here again no spacers standard front and rear wheels
Edited
Higher / Lower offset correction
Edited by ATM on Sunday 31st March 09:24
I was thinking to go for 40. I thought 35 would be a bit too flush. The 90's 'look' is inset wheels so I wanted to retain that to some degree.
....but now you have me considering ET35.
....but now you have me considering ET35.
Chris Stott said:
chappardababbar said:
Snip
With a 9j, you’ll need an offset around 35-40 to get a reasonably flush fitment. chappardababbar said:
I was thinking to go for 40. I thought 35 would be a bit too flush. The 90's 'look' is inset wheels so I wanted to retain that to some degree.
....but now you have me considering ET35.
I’m running a stock 10” et65, with a 15mm spacer… so equivalent to an et50. A 9J would need to be et38 to fit the same. ....but now you have me considering ET35.
Chris Stott said:
chappardababbar said:
Snip
With a 9j, you’ll need an offset around 35-40 to get a reasonably flush fitment. For me, this is the minimum I’d want for aesthetics.
I don’t mind a bit of tuck on the front, but the rears need to fit properly.
Helpful, thank you.
In this case I'll go ET35 front and rear.
much obliged Scott.
For me, this is the minimum I’d want for aesthetics.
I don’t mind a bit of tuck on the front, but the rears need to fit properly.
In this case I'll go ET35 front and rear.
much obliged Scott.
Chris Stott said:
chappardababbar said:
I was thinking to go for 40. I thought 35 would be a bit too flush. The 90's 'look' is inset wheels so I wanted to retain that to some degree.
....but now you have me considering ET35.
I’m running a stock 10” et65, with a 15mm spacer… so equivalent to an et50. A 9J would need to be et38 to fit the same. ....but now you have me considering ET35.
Chris Stott said:
chappardababbar said:
Snip
With a 9j, you’ll need an offset around 35-40 to get a reasonably flush fitment. For me, this is the minimum I’d want for aesthetics.
I don’t mind a bit of tuck on the front, but the rears need to fit properly.
chappardababbar said:
However this picture with standard ET55 offsets looks too recessed for my liking:
whereas this set up with a 15mm spacer, although you say it has impacted steering feel, feels like it's worthwhile because it looks better balanced without looking too aggressive:
Dont forget that both my cars above are very low. The lower you go exacerbates the wheel disappearing into the arch.whereas this set up with a 15mm spacer, although you say it has impacted steering feel, feels like it's worthwhile because it looks better balanced without looking too aggressive:
Understood, makes sense. Thank you
ATM said:
chappardababbar said:
Dont forget that both my cars above are very low. The lower you go exacerbates the wheel disappearing into the arch.Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff