what is an 'early' 3.4 996?
Discussion
richthebike said:
toastyhamster said:
Think what I'm ideally after isn't that common:
Aero kit
Black interior
Ideally C2
Manual
Coupe
Ideally not silver
FGP have a nice Guards Red that was on FB for a while, if that came up privately now I'd have it.
Hadn't considered C&C ads, have now set up an alert, thx
The red thing at FGP is a 3.6 I'm afraid.Aero kit
Black interior
Ideally C2
Manual
Coupe
Ideally not silver
FGP have a nice Guards Red that was on FB for a while, if that came up privately now I'd have it.
Hadn't considered C&C ads, have now set up an alert, thx
For some balance, my car came from Luke and it has been fine. He sorted a few niggles, and bought back some bits once I started upgrading.
I know of a few other purchasers who have had decent cars from him with no complaints. FGP aren't 911V, but he does manage to get some decent 3.4s in.
Have already read plenty about FGP but thanks for the heads up.
Chris Stott said:
Toy car!
Model 3 is a decent drive - steering is a bit quick for my tastes, but it’s got great turn in and exit traction that makes even a 911 feel a bit soft.
Come on Chris it's only positivity allowed here about the early 996. There might be a Tesla thread somewhere which would welcome you with open charging points. Model 3 is a decent drive - steering is a bit quick for my tastes, but it’s got great turn in and exit traction that makes even a 911 feel a bit soft.
MrC986 said:
ATM said:
Has no one noticed the monster brakes on the front. I'm seeing 6 pot calipers, and massive 2 piece floating discs.
Yep, I’d spotted the brakes and the 19” wheels. I directed a friend to this car. It appears to have a Turbo rear bumper (I wonder why?) plus the carbon interior bits. For the £s it didn’t seem overly expensive.toastyhamster said:
What's wrong with the 3.6? Have to admit despite having done a fair bit of research the whole 996 model/problems thing isn't very clear, so I'll just be buying on condition.
Have already read plenty about FGP but thanks for the heads up.
Nothing, they're lovely, just not on this thread Have already read plenty about FGP but thanks for the heads up.
!!richthebike said:
toastyhamster said:
What's wrong with the 3.6? Have to admit despite having done a fair bit of research the whole 996 model/problems thing isn't very clear, so I'll just be buying on condition.
Have already read plenty about FGP but thanks for the heads up.
Nothing, they're lovely, just not on this thread Have already read plenty about FGP but thanks for the heads up.
!!We pray to the engine reliability gods here who tell us by way of internet rumour that the 3.4 is more robust, more reliable, more raw and therefore must be more sought after.
My mate bought a 3.6 and its absolutely rubbish. Well that's not strictly true. It feels a lot more refined to me but mine has rock hard dampers, roll bars and bushes so it would.
The earlier 3.4 did have coated pistons which some believe helps prevent bore scoring. They stopped the coated pistons after a few years of making the earlier 3.4 cars. I'm not sure if all 3.4 have the coating but the later 3.6 definitely does not. The later 3.6 car is also heavier with more crash protection and safety gubbins. The earliest 3.4 cars also had a cable throttle rather than fly by wire trickery. Some say the cable throttle feels better. I'm not sure about that but I know the early cars came with no traction control. It became available as an option and it was standard on later 3.6 cars I believe. So yes the lightest 996 you can buy is the earliest 3.4 cars with no sunroof.
roca1976 said:
It looks too violet to be Vers. interesting to see colour code sticker. Could be a PTS colour ?
Definitely needs to lose 19s and yellow painted calipers.
Carbon could be factory options, looks correct on first glance. I was tempted to take a look and maybe swap my 996.2 if the 3.4 was a PTS car with lots of factory options.
Definitely needs to lose 19s and yellow painted calipers.
Carbon could be factory options, looks correct on first glance. I was tempted to take a look and maybe swap my 996.2 if the 3.4 was a PTS car with lots of factory options.
C16 UK car
030 Sports suspension -10mm (now Eurocup coilovers)
XAA Aerokit
XJ4 Leather covered ignition key surround
XKD Carbon side air vents
XKJ Carbon defroster trim
XKP Carbon speaker covers
XMJ Carbon centre console
XNR Carbon centre air vent bracket
XNX Carbon dashboard trim strip
XPD Carbon 3 spoke steering wheel (this isn’t present anymore)
XPY Carbon instrument surround
XRL 18” Sport Design wheels (now 19” wheels, unknown type)
XTL Carbon door panel parts
X47 Carbon gear lever
X54 Stainless tail pipes
X58 Carbon handbrake lever
X69 Carbon door entry guards with logo
X71 All-look instrument faces
236 Internal code regarding tyres
288 Headlamp washers
375 2 way electric seat, left
376 2 way electric seat, right
446 Wheel caps with coloured Porsche crest
490 Basic sound system (now a double-din Pioneer)
650 Sunroof
Edited by Dammit on Saturday 16th November 19:21
ATM said:
Quick Google
TSB #4407, dated March 4, 1997: " Eighteen inch wheels are not approved for use on Boxsters. Use of eighteen inch wheels on Boxsters under severe conditions may result in structural failures of the body and/or suspension".
Perhaps this was only on the 2.5? I would hope they made some changes a couple of years later to compensate. TSB #4407, dated March 4, 1997: " Eighteen inch wheels are not approved for use on Boxsters. Use of eighteen inch wheels on Boxsters under severe conditions may result in structural failures of the body and/or suspension".
I have a 2000 reg 2.7 and the owners manual lists the wheel and tyre size options from 16" to 18" including the 'S.' On a sticker on the car too (Summer tyres only though, winter tyre max size recommended is 17").V8fan said:
ATM said:
Quick Google
TSB #4407, dated March 4, 1997: " Eighteen inch wheels are not approved for use on Boxsters. Use of eighteen inch wheels on Boxsters under severe conditions may result in structural failures of the body and/or suspension".
Perhaps this was only on the 2.5? I would hope they made some changes a couple of years later to compensate. TSB #4407, dated March 4, 1997: " Eighteen inch wheels are not approved for use on Boxsters. Use of eighteen inch wheels on Boxsters under severe conditions may result in structural failures of the body and/or suspension".
I have a 2000 reg 2.7 and the owners manual lists the wheel and tyre size options from 16" to 18" including the 'S.' On a sticker on the car too (Summer tyres only though, winter tyre max size recommended is 17").Dammit said:
roca1976 said:
It looks too violet to be Vers. interesting to see colour code sticker. Could be a PTS colour ?
Definitely needs to lose 19s and yellow painted calipers.
Carbon could be factory options, looks correct on first glance. I was tempted to take a look and maybe swap my 996.2 if the 3.4 was a PTS car with lots of factory options.
Definitely needs to lose 19s and yellow painted calipers.
Carbon could be factory options, looks correct on first glance. I was tempted to take a look and maybe swap my 996.2 if the 3.4 was a PTS car with lots of factory options.
C16 UK car
030 Sports suspension -10mm (now Eurocup coilovers)
XAA Aerokit
XJ4 Leather covered ignition key surround
XKD Carbon side air vents
XKJ Carbon defroster trim
XKP Carbon speaker covers
XMJ Carbon centre console
XNR Carbon centre air vent bracket
XNX Carbon dashboard trim strip
XPD Carbon 3 spoke steering wheel (this isn’t present anymore)
XPY Carbon instrument surround
XRL 18” Sport Design wheels (now 19” wheels, unknown type)
XTL Carbon door panel parts
X47 Carbon gear lever
X54 Stainless tail pipes
X58 Carbon handbrake lever
X69 Carbon door entry guards with logo
X71 All-look instrument faces
236 Internal code regarding tyres
288 Headlamp washers
375 2 way electric seat, left
376 2 way electric seat, right
446 Wheel caps with coloured Porsche crest
490 Basic sound system (now a double-din Pioneer)
650 Sunroof
Edited by Dammit on Saturday 16th November 19:21
It goes, steers and stops fine- ride is surprisingly good given the wheels. Gear lever doesn’t return to a central position in neutral but that might just be something that needs fiddling with.
It’s a good car for someone who wants a bit of a project I’d say, and doesn’t mind spending some time and money on it.
It’s a good car for someone who wants a bit of a project I’d say, and doesn’t mind spending some time and money on it.
Dammit said:
C16 UK car
030 Sports suspension -10mm (now Eurocup coilovers)
XAA Aerokit
XJ4 Leather covered ignition key surround
XKD Carbon side air vents
XKJ Carbon defroster trim
XKP Carbon speaker covers
XMJ Carbon centre console
XNR Carbon centre air vent bracket
XNX Carbon dashboard trim strip
XPD Carbon 3 spoke steering wheel (this isn’t present anymore)
XPY Carbon instrument surround
XRL 18” Sport Design wheels (now 19” wheels, unknown type)
XTL Carbon door panel parts
X47 Carbon gear lever
X54 Stainless tail pipes
X58 Carbon handbrake lever
X69 Carbon door entry guards with logo
X71 All-look instrument faces
236 Internal code regarding tyres
288 Headlamp washers
375 2 way electric seat, left
376 2 way electric seat, right
446 Wheel caps with coloured Porsche crest
490 Basic sound system (now a double-din Pioneer)
650 Sunroof
Edited by Dammit on Saturday 16th November 19:21
I think I looked at this car some years ago when it was for sale think somewhere in west mids. It was before all the mods had been done. It had full grey interior then with carbon everywhere.
Car itself looked fine but lots of the carbon had gone off from being exposed to the sun and aged, it had cracked in loads of places especially the top of the dash and on steering wheel. I looked at the cost and if these parts are actually still available and it put me off in the end. Looks like the worn grey seats have been replaced along with steering wheel and the dash, this would of been done due to all the knackered carbon bit I imagine.
Was a good colour with sun on it!
Car itself looked fine but lots of the carbon had gone off from being exposed to the sun and aged, it had cracked in loads of places especially the top of the dash and on steering wheel. I looked at the cost and if these parts are actually still available and it put me off in the end. Looks like the worn grey seats have been replaced along with steering wheel and the dash, this would of been done due to all the knackered carbon bit I imagine.
Was a good colour with sun on it!
Surely you would just toss off all the carbon and max power bits. I think the car sits quite low so I'd guess some coil overs too. The brakes could be kept if they fit below an 18 inch wheel maybe. The ad does say 8 pot brakes so they're maybe bigger than a 996tt which feels a bit much to me. I think they might be some unbranded calipers too so no idea if the brake bias would be fine. With all that disc up front would you need some more oomph from the rear brakes too.
Of course the bits could all be super expensive top quality you just wont know till you start digging. The car may have had some buckets fitted and been used for track work. Maybe someone part ex that car for another from their stock. It seems an odd car for them looking at their other stock.
I'm not sure it will fly out but lets see. I dont think there are many early 996 buyers out there who are willing to mess around with projects like this but you never know. If it does fly out then it will prove me wrong and show there are buyers out there waiting to pounce on the right car.
Of course the bits could all be super expensive top quality you just wont know till you start digging. The car may have had some buckets fitted and been used for track work. Maybe someone part ex that car for another from their stock. It seems an odd car for them looking at their other stock.
I'm not sure it will fly out but lets see. I dont think there are many early 996 buyers out there who are willing to mess around with projects like this but you never know. If it does fly out then it will prove me wrong and show there are buyers out there waiting to pounce on the right car.
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