what is an 'early' 3.4 996?
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Fast Bug said:
Risotto said:
ATM said:
I think they're facelift boxster wheels because the real 996 turbos shouldn't fit.
Aren't they C4S wheels?I used to see a speed yellow 986.2 a lot with those wheels and a hard top and it looked better than the 997 I was driving at the time.
Any bets on what this will make?
Timing is pretty unfortunate.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1999-porsche-9...
Timing is pretty unfortunate.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1999-porsche-9...
ATM said:
This could be a good car but we're still below reserve so no idea what the seller expects to make. I think they're facelift boxster wheels because the real 996 turbos shouldn't fit.
1999
C2
101000 miles
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124110887506
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1241108875061999
C2
101000 miles
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124110887506
It has been pulled from ebay since it's no longer available.
ATM said:
Bottom right of rear arch, about an inch above the plastic trim piece in this pic. Is that a rust bubble - do they rust there?
Could be but it's not a normal rust spot from my limited experience.Behind the spat (just below that bubble) seems to be the most common area. The double skin of the rear arches is a perfect design for inside out rust (mine are starting on the top edge) but where that blob in the photo is there's no lip/ledge for moisture to gather so unlikely to be rust I'd say.
There was one pretty bad, thread on 911uk. It was an early kitted car and the way the kit was fitted and held mud, etc had been a large contributing factor to the rot. It needed quite a few repair panels.
Generally removing wheel arch liners and rear wheel cill spat and giving it a decent deep clean once a year should keep it manageable.
Generally removing wheel arch liners and rear wheel cill spat and giving it a decent deep clean once a year should keep it manageable.
ATM said:
Is the rust on these terminal or can they be saved. I'm anxious I have an old example and therefore there are not many around which are older that can demonstrate their robustness against the dreaded tin worm.
Not terminal from what I've seen.Mine has lived more than half of it's life being used all year round up in Scotland so perfect conditions to rust to nothing. My front arches looked worryingly crusty around the strut mounts so this winter I stripped all the liners and under trays off to asses how bad the situation was. It was a massive relief to only find small amounts of rust and no signs of moisture traps causing inside out rust.
The rust around my front strut mounts was extremely strange but it's also strange that Porsche didn't see fit to cover this area with stone chip whereas they did fully coat the inside rear arches.
I've got photos of the rust, the clean up, treatment and finished recoat. I'll try post them.
nunpuncher said:
The rust around my front strut mounts was extremely strange but it's also strange that Porsche didn't see fit to cover this area with stone chip whereas they did fully coat the inside rear arches.
It's the same on the 987/997 as well. Weird as you say that they didn't cover it in stonechip like the rear arch.I *think* what happens is that the moisture from the crap that accumulates up there eventually permeates the paint (the clearcoat in this area is very thin), causes it to bubble, and then allows moisture to get underneath. Once the galvanisation (not sure that is a word) is depleted, it will rust.
I noticed a few bubbles on the shock tower of my 987 but when I scraped them off the metal beneath looked absolutely fine (as in, there was no rust underneath the bubble) - I can only assume that it was the galvanization oxidising. I plastered mine in Wax Seal and they have been fine since.
Yes. It was a worry when I first noticed it as the arch inner covers a large area in the front. The only areas I could say looked really rusty so I was dreading what I would find. Pulled the liners and it was dirty but otherwise completely fine underneath.
The area either side of the top mount is like a box section with 2 drain holes so my initial worry was this was rusting from inside. A good poke with a screwdriver proved it was solid and once hit with a wire brush grinder it was pitted but clean. Like you say, it looks like the unprotected area gets chipped and the water gets in. Although it didn't look like there was any clear coat on my inner arches.
Once cleaned up I hit with doex C followed by hydrate 80 then painted with electrox, grey stripe seam sealer (they also didn't do any of the seams in this area) then Upol gravitex followed by a colour coat. It looks like I got a bit of a reaction between the gravity and the hydrate 80 but it's all well coated to last at least another 20 years.
The area either side of the top mount is like a box section with 2 drain holes so my initial worry was this was rusting from inside. A good poke with a screwdriver proved it was solid and once hit with a wire brush grinder it was pitted but clean. Like you say, it looks like the unprotected area gets chipped and the water gets in. Although it didn't look like there was any clear coat on my inner arches.
Once cleaned up I hit with doex C followed by hydrate 80 then painted with electrox, grey stripe seam sealer (they also didn't do any of the seams in this area) then Upol gravitex followed by a colour coat. It looks like I got a bit of a reaction between the gravity and the hydrate 80 but it's all well coated to last at least another 20 years.
nunpuncher said:
Like you say, it looks like the unprotected area gets chipped and the water gets in. Although it didn't look like there was any clear coat on my inner arches.
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Maybe there isn't any clearcoat (I assumed that it was just really thin/dull) which would probably explain why the paint eventually allows moisture in (I'm no expert but I was told that basecoat was porous unless lacquered)..
Edited by LennyM1984 on Wednesday 18th March 11:33
Fast Bug said:
Whilst work is quiet, I thought it would be a good chance to go for a little run in the car yesterday
Ah, I miss mine. Not sure when I’ll get to drive it again.. was supposed to be back end of March, but in we’re in full lockdown here and even if I got to the UK I wouldn’t be able to get home again. It’s currently sat in my in laws garage, and is due it’s mot beginning of April. Might have to SORN it until this plague thing clears up.
I would expect our Spa Classic trip will be off.
Fast Bug said:
It's still going ahead at the moment, although I doubt it will happen. Got my fingers crossed though Chris!
I was supposed to be doing the 1st leg of the ARC Rally Portugal straight after the Classic... delivering my mates yacht from Plymouth to northern Spain. Got the news last night they’ve cancelled the whole event. 
This has been reduced from £9995 - I’ve absolutely nothing to do with the seller just been watching prices for a long time and think it’s prob one of the cheapest manual coupes I’ve seen in a long time.
It’s leggy, well used, but seems well maintained and ‘enthusiast’ owned.
If I could sell my Westfield I’d bin off the Focus daily and use this till it died.
Surely it would break for more? 🤷♂️
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