what is an 'early' 3.4 996?
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delays said:
This car was up as a private sale at £12k early July. I was the first to call the seller, but FGP bought/paid for it before I could get down to Bristol.
With trade buyers picking stock from the private market, private buyers need to be prepared to buy unseen if a good quality car appears at a not unreasonable price. I’ve done it with other models but I don’t imagine it’s something many potential 996 buyers would particularly relish. I suppose that explains why so many prefer to wait for FGP to buy the car and then pay an £x thousand premium to de-risk their subsequent purchase.Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 12th August 21:07
Risotto said:
With trade buyers picking stock from the private market, private buyers need to be prepared to buy unseen if a good quality car appears at a not unreasonable price. I’ve done it with other models but I don’t imagine it’s something many potential 996 buyers would particularly relish. I suppose that explains why so many prefer to wait and pay a premium for FGP to de-risk the purchase.
Indeed, there was zero chance I was buying a 996 without seeing it first.The de-risking is compelling, but I'm unsure how many traders are willing to stick a warranty of a car of this age. So - I suppose - you're falling back on the standard of the work to prep it for sale.
delays said:
This car was up as a private sale at £12k early July. I was the first to call the seller, but FGP bought/paid for it before I could get down to Bristol.
The engine is what Autofarm call the "Silsleeve" rebuild - unsure if they still use the brand name, but you can dig up the details on the conversion or hunt back through 2007-2008 Porsche mags, where I recall they used to advertise it.
I've still got all the emails/scans of the service history that the seller sent me, so if you're interested, drop me a PM and I'll fire across what I have.
Thanks for the info. If you could send that over I'd really appreciate it. The engine is what Autofarm call the "Silsleeve" rebuild - unsure if they still use the brand name, but you can dig up the details on the conversion or hunt back through 2007-2008 Porsche mags, where I recall they used to advertise it.
I've still got all the emails/scans of the service history that the seller sent me, so if you're interested, drop me a PM and I'll fire across what I have.
I watched the prep video for that silver car last night. The state of the brakes, condensers and faulty gauge would suggest the previous owner wasn't exactly proactive on the maintenance front. What also struck me was that FGP rarely say a car was a problem to work on but they clearly had seized bolt issues with the brakes. Looks to be relatively sorted now but I think my money would go with the blue car.
Still amazes me how FGP turn these things over at the rate they do. Pretty soon every 996 in the country will have passed through his fingers at least once.
Still amazes me how FGP turn these things over at the rate they do. Pretty soon every 996 in the country will have passed through his fingers at least once.
nunpuncher said:
I watched the prep video for that silver car last night. The state of the brakes, condensers and faulty gauge would suggest the previous owner wasn't exactly proactive on the maintenance front. What also struck me was that FGP rarely say a car was a problem to work on but they clearly had seized bolt issues with the brakes. Looks to be relatively sorted now but I think my money would go with the blue car.
Still amazes me how FGP turn these things over at the rate they do. Pretty soon every 996 in the country will have passed through his fingers at least once.
Not sure why he is so fixated on bump stops and top mounts. I guess top mounts can improve the drive a little but a bump stop will do nothing unless you hit a pretty serious bump. I'd be more worried about the dampers themselves. He also likes renewing coil pack heat shields.Still amazes me how FGP turn these things over at the rate they do. Pretty soon every 996 in the country will have passed through his fingers at least once.
Mine continues to go well, 1100miles in now in 6 weeks, and doesn’t appear to have used any oil from the digital level gauge.
I still haven’t had the PPI report, or quote for bits needed from Project Nine despite chasing. From the screenshot of their job card which they sent on the day I have amassed nearly all the bits I think I need, and the plan is next week I’ll start on those.
I want to get it all done for 20th September when I am taking it over to Classics at Prescott and going up the hill, probably very slowly!
All I’ve done to date is replace the battery and resync the second remote key, and fit the popular Continental head unit which is a significant improvement over the CDR-22. It came direct from VDO in Germany and was delivered less than 24hrs after ordering.
Edited to add: has anyone swapped to 997 wheels and tyre sizes and found any degrading of the handling? It tramlines quite a bit and was wonder if it’s because the fronts are 6mm further in and the rears 5mm further out? I will swap back to 996 at some stage, but not sure how much of a priority I should make it.
Still loving it
Edited by HughG on Thursday 13th August 13:32
HughG said:
Mine continues to go well, 1100miles in now in 6 weeks, and doesn’t appear to have used any oil from the digital level gauge.
I still haven’t had the PPI report, or quote for bits needed from Project Nine despite chasing. From the screenshot of their job card which they sent on the day I have amassed nearly all the bits I think I need, and the plan is next week I’ll start on those.
I want to get it all done for 20th September when I am taking it over to Classics at Prescott and going up the hill, probably very slowly!
All I’ve done to date is replace the battery and resync the second remote key, and fit the popular Continental head unit which is a significant improvement over the CDR-22. It came direct from VDO in Germany and was delivered less than 24hrs after ordering.
Edited to add: has anyone swapped to 997 wheels and tyre sizes and found any degrading of the handling? It tramlines quite a bit and was wonder if it’s because the fronts are 6mm further in and the rears 5mm further out? I will swap back to 996 at some stage, but not sure how much of a priority I should make it.
Still loving it
Edited by HughG on Thursday 13th August 13:32
Those off sets won't impact the handling... people run far more extreme wheel fitments with no problems. Most likely geo or tyres. What are the front tyres like?
HughG said:
Tyres are Kumho KH71 and a different Kuhmo on the back, about 2 years old and done ~3k miles. They are 997 sizes so 235/40 and 265/40. Still playing with pressures.
I guess you can’t see any wear patterns on the fronts at that mileage (fronts last forever on 996’s). I know it’s a bit of an expense, but I’d go get it aligned... they don’t tramline if set up properly, and the whole point in owning a 996 is for how it drives. A specialist will charge you a couple of hours labour.
I’ve had mine done at kwikfit before as they were only £75. But I wouldn’t recommend - they got it in spec (other than caster), but 3 days after I had it done my wife brought it home and said ‘the car feels funny’. I took it for a quick spin and it was all over the road. Pulled up, had a look around, and I could see the NS wheel was toeing out a mile... fitter hadn’t tightened the toe adjustment up properly.
Chris Stott said:
HughG said:
Mine continues to go well, 1100miles in now in 6 weeks, and doesn’t appear to have used any oil from the digital level gauge.
I still haven’t had the PPI report, or quote for bits needed from Project Nine despite chasing. From the screenshot of their job card which they sent on the day I have amassed nearly all the bits I think I need, and the plan is next week I’ll start on those.
I want to get it all done for 20th September when I am taking it over to Classics at Prescott and going up the hill, probably very slowly!
All I’ve done to date is replace the battery and resync the second remote key, and fit the popular Continental head unit which is a significant improvement over the CDR-22. It came direct from VDO in Germany and was delivered less than 24hrs after ordering.
Edited to add: has anyone swapped to 997 wheels and tyre sizes and found any degrading of the handling? It tramlines quite a bit and was wonder if it’s because the fronts are 6mm further in and the rears 5mm further out? I will swap back to 996 at some stage, but not sure how much of a priority I should make it.
Still loving it
Edited by HughG on Thursday 13th August 13:32
Most likely geo
I had my geo done and afterwards it was like night and day. Previously you needed to concentrate because the car would randomly change direction. Afterwards you could drive with no hands easily - even over bumps and undulations.
anonymous said:
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In quite a few of the prep videos I've watched he's commented on cars being ones he sold previously. If it's been through their workshop before and been run by someone for a few years with no issues then I guess he takes some comfort in knowing the car. They also appear to provide a warranty so there can't be much comeback on the cars he's selling or the business model wouldn't work.tomtom said:
It looks like there's a different design of part too, eg
https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/car-brands/spare-...
The one on the car now looks like the design911 type with a square casing.
edit: This was a useful find on Google (maybe everyone already has it).
https://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalpart...
I fitted the part number referenced in the parts list PDF (996 613 113 01), the brown square one, and it works fine. Easy job, 20mins max and I have working brake lights again!https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/car-brands/spare-...
The one on the car now looks like the design911 type with a square casing.
edit: This was a useful find on Google (maybe everyone already has it).
https://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalpart...
Edited by tomtom on Monday 10th August 09:41
Edited by tomtom on Friday 14th August 09:29
tomtom said:
I fitted the part in there, the brown square one, and it works fine. Easy job, 20mins max and I have working brake lights again!
Good to know for future reference. Actually thought you were someone else when you originally posted this as I was behind someone on a run a few days earlier and they had no brake lights.anonymous said:
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With the parts for a 986 costing the same as a 996 I guess the potential profit gets sucked up quicker what with the car generally costing less.Prepping them properly is also open to interpretation. I mean, if your name is Dammit then every car would turn a £40k loss on "essentials".
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