what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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rfn

4,531 posts

208 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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ATM said:
Just watched a Friends Green video and its all 997 cars now. Perhaps he has moved on from earlier 996 cars. His garage does look a lot fuller now and I also saw an r8 in there. I think its risky for him dealing in 997 cars if they are more prone to engine problems but wish him well in his endeavours.
He's got 2 996s and 1 997 for sale currently: https://www.friendsgreenporsche.com/onlineshowroom

ATM

18,311 posts

220 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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rfn said:
ATM said:
Just watched a Friends Green video and its all 997 cars now. Perhaps he has moved on from earlier 996 cars. His garage does look a lot fuller now and I also saw an r8 in there. I think its risky for him dealing in 997 cars if they are more prone to engine problems but wish him well in his endeavours.
He's got 2 996s and 1 997 for sale currently: https://www.friendsgreenporsche.com/onlineshowroom
Video showed the black one on his site and a maroon one which was already sold not on his site. There is a grey one in his site says sold. That makes 3.

Baked_bean

1,908 posts

193 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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I hope he keeps dealing in 996s as it helps keep the prices buoyant!

ATM

18,311 posts

220 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Baked_bean said:
I hope he keeps dealing in 996s as it helps keep the prices buoyant!
Exactly why I mentioned it.

nunpuncher

3,393 posts

126 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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It's probably easier to pick up a tatty 997 that needs a few easy fixes to make it profitable than a 996 these days.

ATM

18,311 posts

220 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Either the 997 prices are dropping and this has enticed him over or the 996 pries are dropping too and this has squeezed his margins. Earlier 996 cars could be becoming hard to find but they dont appear to be if you ask me.

Filibuster

3,165 posts

216 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Even tough lot of 996 have been imported, there have been no new ones for over 15 years now.
Some have crashed, some have been stolen, some have been broken up for parts and many have already undergone the process of being "cherished keepers" (or they have been from day 1).
There are less 996 around "to be rescued" every day.

And the 997 has now become what the 996 used to be about a decade ago.
The 997 is no longer the old 911 and it is not yet a classic 911 (the 996 officially is according to Porsche!)

Do you remember this article from 2011?
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features/the-1...


ferrisbueller

29,351 posts

228 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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They are operating in a niche that most traders won't touch.

Fast Bug

11,739 posts

162 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Prices haven't really changed all that much is the 9 years since they did that guide.

I do like a 997, but ironically the fear of a chocolate 997.1 3.8 engine puts me off laugh It's quite a big price jump from a manual 997.1 S to a 997.2 S manual, so I'd say that I'm not the only one that's put off by it. I regret not going to have a look at the slightly leggy White one Ashgood had earlier this year

Filibuster

3,165 posts

216 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Fast Bug said:
Prices haven't really changed all that much is the 9 years since they did that guide.

I do like a 997, but ironically the fear of a chocolate 997.1 3.8 engine puts me off laugh It's quite a big price jump from a manual 997.1 S to a 997.2 S manual, so I'd say that I'm not the only one that's put off by it. I regret not going to have a look at the slightly leggy White one Ashgood had earlier this year
Just buy a 997.1 3.6 then. wink
Best with a big IMS bearing and one that doesn't use oil
These are the sweetspot and thus the pick of any affordable 911, in my totally unbiased opinion of course tongue out

Fast Bug

11,739 posts

162 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Filibuster said:
Fast Bug said:
Prices haven't really changed all that much is the 9 years since they did that guide.

I do like a 997, but ironically the fear of a chocolate 997.1 3.8 engine puts me off laugh It's quite a big price jump from a manual 997.1 S to a 997.2 S manual, so I'd say that I'm not the only one that's put off by it. I regret not going to have a look at the slightly leggy White one Ashgood had earlier this year
Just buy a 997.1 3.6 then. wink
Best with a big IMS bearing and one that doesn't use oil
These are the sweetspot and thus the pick of any affordable 911, in my totally unbiased opinion of course tongue out
That's 200cc less capacity, I need all the power biggrin

Although to be fair my 996.1 doesn't fair too badly against the various 997 models my friends have, mainly due to the weight saving.

ATM

18,311 posts

220 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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I think about getting a 997. Not all the time obviously because who would admit to that on the internet. Then I think about selling my 996 to get a 997 and the thought ends right there.

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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ATM said:
I think about getting a 997. Not all the time obviously because who would admit to that on the internet. Then I think about selling my 996 to get a 997 and the thought ends right there.
You've got a 981 too though right? That sounds like it hits the modern Porsche thing there with the old 911 being the back to basics option.

I'm sure most on this thread would rather have a 993 sitting outside but values mean that a 996 is as old school as you can reasonably get and still have a fun car rather than an investment. And over time I appreciate the 996 more, lighter than the 993, stiffer shell, more powerful etc etc.

olv

343 posts

216 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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  • edit* oops.

Fast Bug

11,739 posts

162 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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shalmaneser said:
You've got a 981 too though right? That sounds like it hits the modern Porsche thing there with the old 911 being the back to basics option.

I'm sure most on this thread would rather have a 993 sitting outside but values mean that a 996 is as old school as you can reasonably get and still have a fun car rather than an investment. And over time I appreciate the 996 more, lighter than the 993, stiffer shell, more powerful etc etc.
I'd much prefer a 964 or a 993, but they're crazy money compared to what they were at a few years ago. A wide body 993 with a few tweaks cloud9


Chris Stott

13,429 posts

198 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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For the price of a 2S/4S 993 you could get the a perfect low mileage 996GT3 (and pocket c.£30k), a 996RS or a 996GT2.



ATM

18,311 posts

220 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Chris Stott said:
For the price of a 2S/4S 993 you could get the a perfect low mileage 996GT3 (and pocket c.£30k), a 996RS or a 996GT2.
Widow maker



Anything else is a girl's car

Chris Stott

13,429 posts

198 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Every time I think 996GT2, I remind myself of this video and console myself with the fact that even if I could buy one, it would most likely kill me...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6pqcXxfpw2I

GT6 Jonsey

845 posts

123 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Ha ain’t nowt, friend of a friends GT2 after a watch this moment


Edited by GT6 Jonsey on Monday 16th November 18:16

Chris Stott

13,429 posts

198 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Ouch... looks like a tree was involved... or something equally as solid.

I expect there are a few less GT2's around than Porsche originally built.