what is an 'early' 3.4 996?
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To that point, I thought this would have achieved slightly more:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
It has a lot of the desirable options on it, reasonable miles and a sensible colour combo. Mention of some bodywork bubbling would be a concern but otherwise...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
It has a lot of the desirable options on it, reasonable miles and a sensible colour combo. Mention of some bodywork bubbling would be a concern but otherwise...
delays said:
To that point, I thought this would have achieved slightly more:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
It has a lot of the desirable options on it, reasonable miles and a sensible colour combo. Mention of some bodywork bubbling would be a concern but otherwise...
Funnily enough we were looking at that too as he was considering CC too, it was a part-ex from Girado & Co that was being palmed off. Nearly 90k miles, a bit scrappy on places and achieved £15650 with fees.https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
It has a lot of the desirable options on it, reasonable miles and a sensible colour combo. Mention of some bodywork bubbling would be a concern but otherwise...
I just don't think CC is the place for such cars, it seems to get ridiculously high results (sometimes above dealer retail prices) but for a rough run of the mill 911?
You reckon if whoever traded it at Girado had put it on eBay at £16k they'd have seen at least that much?
Looking at my mates, and I saw it last week as he brought it out to mine for a run as he needed to drop off something for work (he's my electrician) it is fantastically mint-I can't remember seeing a nicer 996 for years.
Half the mileage and properly mint for only £5-6k more seems cheap, or if you look at percentages over 25% more seems a little expensive! The bottom of the 911 market is always a funny one.
delays said:
To that point, I thought this would have achieved slightly more:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
It has a lot of the desirable options on it, reasonable miles and a sensible colour combo. Mention of some bodywork bubbling would be a concern but otherwise...
Agreed it does seem a touch rough, bubbling arches, de-laminating screen...https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
It has a lot of the desirable options on it, reasonable miles and a sensible colour combo. Mention of some bodywork bubbling would be a concern but otherwise...
Nice spec by all means but the diff probably needs rebuilding by this point anyway, along with the dampers and bushes etc.
i may be wrong, often are but I see mileage as a much bigger driver of price on the 996 than air cooled cars.
a 120,000 mile 996 even with Hartech rebuild is looked down on compared to a 120,000 mile 993 which has been lovingly looked after with a engine rebuild.
the could be 1 year difference in age but the 996 still suffer from "second hand" car syndrome.
a 120,000 mile 996 even with Hartech rebuild is looked down on compared to a 120,000 mile 993 which has been lovingly looked after with a engine rebuild.
the could be 1 year difference in age but the 996 still suffer from "second hand" car syndrome.
jonny996 said:
i may be wrong, often are but I see mileage as a much bigger driver of price on the 996 than air cooled cars.
a 120,000 mile 996 even with Hartech rebuild is looked down on compared to a 120,000 mile 993 which has been lovingly looked after with a engine rebuild.
the could be 1 year difference in age but the 996 still suffer from "second hand" car syndrome.
It is a great example of form over function. Having owned multiple examples of both, and currently owning a 996 CSR with a 3.7 Hartech engine, the 996 is a MUCH better car. It is not however anywhere near as desirable, doesn't have the air cooled 'cool' and is still regarded as the red headed stepchild of the 911 range. a 120,000 mile 996 even with Hartech rebuild is looked down on compared to a 120,000 mile 993 which has been lovingly looked after with a engine rebuild.
the could be 1 year difference in age but the 996 still suffer from "second hand" car syndrome.
I think a lot /most of this is still due to the front end looks, yes there is the much over played spectre of engine failure, but it's not like 23+ year old air cooled cars won't/don't need engine work.
Edited to add - the lower desirability obviously leads to a lower price and I agree a 'second hand' rather than 'modern classic' vibe.
Edited by Greedydog on Wednesday 10th February 10:20
Edited by Greedydog on Wednesday 10th February 10:28
I put my early 996 up on the Porsche club forum and on here last week. IMS, air con rads, half the suspension and brakes are all recent as well as the infamous exhaust headers.
I made it the cheapest one in the classifieds at £12k.
Not exactly been tripping up over people at my door wanting to buy it. Are these quite mileage sensitive? Mine has been doted on by me and the previous owners, box file full of paperwork for its 157k mileage.
Tbh having seen the following on PPBB’s thread I assumed I’d be sick of the phone calls by now.
I made it the cheapest one in the classifieds at £12k.
Not exactly been tripping up over people at my door wanting to buy it. Are these quite mileage sensitive? Mine has been doted on by me and the previous owners, box file full of paperwork for its 157k mileage.
Tbh having seen the following on PPBB’s thread I assumed I’d be sick of the phone calls by now.
eltax91 said:
I put my early 996 up on the Porsche club forum and on here last week. IMS, air con rads, half the suspension and brakes are all recent as well as the infamous exhaust headers.
I made it the cheapest one in the classifieds at £12k.
Not exactly been tripping up over people at my door wanting to buy it. Are these quite mileage sensitive? Mine has been doted on by me and the previous owners, box file full of paperwork for its 157k mileage.
Tbh having seen the following on PPBB’s thread I assumed I’d be sick of the phone calls by now.
I think the UK is quite mileage sensitive, but 157k is a fair bit of use for any motor let alone a relatively highly stressed one.I made it the cheapest one in the classifieds at £12k.
Not exactly been tripping up over people at my door wanting to buy it. Are these quite mileage sensitive? Mine has been doted on by me and the previous owners, box file full of paperwork for its 157k mileage.
Tbh having seen the following on PPBB’s thread I assumed I’d be sick of the phone calls by now.
I went the other way with my one and bought a low miles car with gaping holes in it's service history as I was fed up trying to move on high mileage cars that had been doted on. I've replaced the whole suspension setup and had a gearbox rebuild so it's been fairly expensive (but much less than a car with equivalent miles that was in mint condition) but we will see as to whether I made the right choice when it's time to sell.
Without a shadow of a doubt the mileage will be putting some off. Although I'd also suggest getting the coolant drip fixed and remove that part from the advert. I wouldn't be in a rush to hand over my money and drive off in a car with a coolant drip that could pop a hose 2 miles down the road.
People just need to be patient when selling a car. Unless you're giving it away for next to nothing you can't expect a high mileage 996 to sell in a day under normal circumstances let alone at the moment.
People just need to be patient when selling a car. Unless you're giving it away for next to nothing you can't expect a high mileage 996 to sell in a day under normal circumstances let alone at the moment.
nunpuncher said:
Without a shadow of a doubt the mileage will be putting some off. Although I'd also suggest getting the coolant drip fixed and remove that part from the advert. I wouldn't be in a rush to hand over my money and drive off in a car with a coolant drip that could pop a hose 2 miles down the road.
People just need to be patient when selling a car. Unless you're giving it away for next to nothing you can't expect a high mileage 996 to sell in a day under normal circumstances let alone at the moment.
Fair comment. I've been struggling to get it booked in to the specialist as they've furloughed a load of staff nd have very few spots available. People just need to be patient when selling a car. Unless you're giving it away for next to nothing you can't expect a high mileage 996 to sell in a day under normal circumstances let alone at the moment.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-996/3839365...
Mate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
IMO Prices of good 996s have moved up over the last few years. Good low mile cars have been at the level of your mate's car previously - we saw a few aerokit cars at that level. If he's getting offers, then he's in the right ballpark.Mate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
FWIW, I think the CC car was overpriced, like many of their offerings.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-996/3839365...
Mate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
That's really niceMate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-996/3839365...
Mate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
Did it always run a standard front bumper or was it only optioned the aero kit side skirts?Mate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
Money is great on that. Awesome car.
shalmaneser said:
Car looks great - thoughts on the lightweight flywheel? How much did it cost you - I've just done a flywheel and clutch change and was so tempted to go for the LW option....
Mail me and I can give you a good lead on a gearbox rebuild place if you're in the South of England - or willing to travel to get here!
Sure, it was a great choice for me, really allows you to blip the throttle easily. Caught me off guard a few times with stalling but I'm not too proud Mail me and I can give you a good lead on a gearbox rebuild place if you're in the South of England - or willing to travel to get here!
ferrisbueller said:
IMO Prices of good 996s have moved up over the last few years. Good low mile cars have been at the level of your mate's car previously - we saw a few aerokit cars at that level. If he's getting offers, then he's in the right ballpark.
FWIW, I think the CC car was overpriced, like many of their offerings.
The CC 996 was clearly worth whatever the highest bidder paid. I’ve a good friend with a well sorted C4 manual with aerokit that’ll be sold in the next few months - he’s watching the market & CC listings as his doesn’t have any of the visual issues of the CC & although it’s a C4 (not a C2) I think the aerokit more than makes up for that & although it’s done about 115k miles, it looks like it’s done about 40k & slapping a cheap Irish type number plate would make it look younger still to the initiated. I admire the likes of FGP as they’ve had a gen1 C4 recently with 110k miles on at £16k & it sold straight away (slightly proves it was a bargain compared to the CCs one!) & whilst quite a few of us mocked their pricing initially, they’ve moved some Pork in the last yr.FWIW, I think the CC car was overpriced, like many of their offerings.
RN11Sean said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-996/3839365...
Mate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
Did it always run a standard front bumper or was it only optioned the aero kit side skirts?Mate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
Money is great on that. Awesome car.
Fast Bug said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-996/3839365...
Mate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
That's really niceMate put his 3.4 up on eBay last Friday-had a couple of very close to asking (within a couple of thousand) offers within a couple of hours of going live.
What's the consensus of prices these days? One offer was from a dealer so you'd image he was going to put at least few grand on top, is a £20-something-thousand 3.4 the norm these days?
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