what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

[Chris Stott]

Onetrackmind said:

MrC986 said:

I see FGP have another aerokit 996 manual with no sunroof, this time a C4.....
https://www.friendsgreenporsche.com/product-page/p...

£30k with 90k miles and a Savannah coloured interior - I appreciate it's Guards Red, but blimey!!! Either they're having to pay really strong £s or there's some serious mark up on these now

I think I need an agreed value on my car when the insurance is due for renewal

I just noticed this on their site. Seems rather optimistic. A similar mileage turbo would be a few grand more.

It’s had some very big jobs sorted if the ad is accurate.... full suspension (inc quality coil overs), a full exhaust (inc headers), and a clutch... there’s c.£7k of work that most cars around 100k will need.

Assuming the rest of the maintenance is similarly up to date, you just have to decide how much GR aero tax you’re prepared to pay.

[Fast Bug]

It's amazing how much better the turn in is on a C2 with a full tank of fuel and the frunk is stuffed with numerous tubs of paint from Wicks! Need to work out why my air con has stopped working yet again

[Chris Stott]

I’ll actually be driving mine today!

Back in the Uk for a trip to see family, so 500 miles or so next few days.

Already spotted it’s ready for 4 tyres

[shalmaneser]

Fast Bug said:

It's amazing how much better the turn in is on a C2 with a full tank of fuel and the frunk is stuffed with numerous tubs of paint from Wicks! Need to work out why my air con has stopped working yet again

Might be worth getting hold of some aftermarket ARBs, my M030 car turns in like you wouldn't believe with an H&R rear ARB fitted! They are a little roly-poly as standard...

[Jellyfishfields]

SidewaysSi said:

shalmaneser said:

LaurasOtherHalf said:

https://www.friendsgreenporsche.com/product-page/p...

Strong money but with the protection that a dealer can/should bring. Right mileage, classic colours and Hartech engine work for peace of mind.

Fairly unusual finding a Hartech rebuild on a car with 65k. Toppy but definitely a keeper. Good options, with that mileage the diff probably still locks up too!

So Hartech did a bottom end rebuild then a couple of thousand miles later a top end rebuild?

I would be wanting to know exactly what Hartech did and of this was the "full monty" or not. I have seen cars advertised as having a "Hartech rebuild" but when you get into the detail, it wasn't the full works.

This was on Autotrader as a private sale a few weeks ago, seemed well underpriced.

I offered the seller full asking price over the phone subject to viewing, but as someone else was coming to view the following morning, he wouldn't sell until he'd seen it. Guess it was this garage then.

Shame I couldn't get down there in time.

[Armut Schweinefleisch-911]

shalmaneser said:

Fast Bug said:

It's amazing how much better the turn in is on a C2 with a full tank of fuel and the frunk is stuffed with numerous tubs of paint from Wicks! Need to work out why my air con has stopped working yet again

Might be worth getting hold of some aftermarket ARBs, my M030 car turns in like you wouldn't believe with an H&R rear ARB fitted! They are a little roly-poly as standard...

Is it a 24mm one? Was it expensive?

[Huntsman]

Onetrackmind said:

I just noticed this on their site. Seems rather optimistic. A similar mileage turbo would be a few grand more.

I keep having turbo thoughts....

[ATM]

Huntsman said:

Onetrackmind said:

I just noticed this on their site. Seems rather optimistic. A similar mileage turbo would be a few grand more.

I keep having turbo thoughts....

The stuff about the clutch pedal / mechanism / assistance puts me off

[Chris Stott]

ATM said:

Huntsman said:

Onetrackmind said:

I just noticed this on their site. Seems rather optimistic. A similar mileage turbo would be a few grand more.

I keep having turbo thoughts....

The stuff about the clutch pedal / mechanism / assistance puts me off

Turbos are a different level of costs at high miles.

[Hoofy]

How much are we talking about, really? £2k to sort out a clutch?

And £6-7k to sort out new turbos? Might as well get some K24s in there and tune things up a little.

It's the risk that I took over a standard 996.

[Armut Schweinefleisch-911]

I anyone here running a B&M short shift on their 996?

[Onetrackmind]

I went for a 996 turbo over a Carrera due to the reduced risk of engine problems. Other than recently having the gearbox rebuilt due to second gear synchro, it’s been pretty reasonable to run at higher miles.

Would love to add an early C2 aero though.

[ATM]

Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:

I anyone here running a B&M short shift on their 996?

The standard 9x7 shifter is a bit shorter than a standard 9x6. Also I posted a decent video a while back showing how to remove slop from the standard shifter. I will see if I can dig it out.

[Smollet]

Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:

I anyone here running a B&M short shift on their 996?

I use the 997 one. Cheaper off eBay. Quite a noticeable difference

[shalmaneser]

Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:

I anyone here running a B&M short shift on their 996?

I've got an ebay short shifter and it's great and dirt cheap. Slightly modified the for/aft bearings but that's not crucial.

If you fancy staying OE I think the GT3 shifter also fits and isn't too expensive.

[shalmaneser]

Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:

shalmaneser said:

Fast Bug said:

It's amazing how much better the turn in is on a C2 with a full tank of fuel and the frunk is stuffed with numerous tubs of paint from Wicks! Need to work out why my air con has stopped working yet again

Might be worth getting hold of some aftermarket ARBs, my M030 car turns in like you wouldn't believe with an H&R rear ARB fitted! They are a little roly-poly as standard...

Is it a 24mm one? Was it expensive?

Nope it was cheap. £150 or something? I had to do a bit of running around to just buy a rear though but not very much, most people wanted to sell a kit F+R.

I was concerned it would make the car tail happy but it's really very neutral now, on track it was just fantastic, maybe other people can drive around the understeer but it felt lovely in high and low speed stuff. Power on understeer still a bit of a thing though, but that's just character really.

I should emphasise that this is with M030 stuff throughout, not sure what it would be like on standard shocks and springs and front ARB, might be too much.

EDIT: just checked it was £230 inc. VAT

Part number rear bar only for Porsche 996 C2 models: 33510HA-K

Edited by shalmaneser on Monday 9th August 17:01

[Fast Bug]

Mine had an MO30 from factory, and is now on H&R springs and Koni shocks (from memory), not sure about the anti-roll bars. It might be a couple of bushes need replacing. I'll get it looked at when it goes in for a service

[Chris Stott]

shalmaneser said:

Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:

shalmaneser said:

Fast Bug said:

It's amazing how much better the turn in is on a C2 with a full tank of fuel and the frunk is stuffed with numerous tubs of paint from Wicks! Need to work out why my air con has stopped working yet again

Might be worth getting hold of some aftermarket ARBs, my M030 car turns in like you wouldn't believe with an H&R rear ARB fitted! They are a little roly-poly as standard...

Is it a 24mm one? Was it expensive?

Nope it was cheap. £150 or something? I had to do a bit of running around to just buy a rear though but not very much, most people wanted to sell a kit F+R.

I was concerned it would make the car tail happy but it's really very neutral now, on track it was just fantastic, maybe other people can drive around the understeer but it felt lovely in high and low speed stuff. Power on understeer still a bit of a thing though, but that's just character really.

I should emphasise that this is with M030 stuff throughout, not sure what it would be like on standard shocks and springs and front ARB, might be too much.

EDIT: just checked it was £230 inc. VAT

Part number rear bar only for Porsche 996 C2 models: 33510HA-K

Edited by shalmaneser on Monday 9th August 17:01

I have a similar set up on mine...

M030 front bar off a Boxster S (£30, 2nd hand off eBay)
H&R adjustable rear bar, bought from somewhere in Germany for £185, delivered, inc vat

I have koni shocks and H&R -30mm springs. I also have half the stock recomended rear toe.

James.... you need to swap your road roller rear tyres

[shalmaneser]

Chris Stott said:

shalmaneser said:

Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:

shalmaneser said:

Fast Bug said:

It's amazing how much better the turn in is on a C2 with a full tank of fuel and the frunk is stuffed with numerous tubs of paint from Wicks! Need to work out why my air con has stopped working yet again

Might be worth getting hold of some aftermarket ARBs, my M030 car turns in like you wouldn't believe with an H&R rear ARB fitted! They are a little roly-poly as standard...

Is it a 24mm one? Was it expensive?

Nope it was cheap. £150 or something? I had to do a bit of running around to just buy a rear though but not very much, most people wanted to sell a kit F+R.

I was concerned it would make the car tail happy but it's really very neutral now, on track it was just fantastic, maybe other people can drive around the understeer but it felt lovely in high and low speed stuff. Power on understeer still a bit of a thing though, but that's just character really.

I should emphasise that this is with M030 stuff throughout, not sure what it would be like on standard shocks and springs and front ARB, might be too much.

EDIT: just checked it was £230 inc. VAT

Part number rear bar only for Porsche 996 C2 models: 33510HA-K

Edited by shalmaneser on Monday 9th August 17:01

I have a similar set up on mine...

M030 front bar off a Boxster S (£30, 2nd hand off eBay)
H&R adjustable rear bar, bought from somewhere in Germany for £185, delivered, inc vat

I have koni shocks and H&R -30mm springs. I also have half the stock recomended rear toe.

James.... you need to swap your road roller rear tyres

I did the Boxster S ARB trick too, good tip. Might have been you who inspired me to go for the m030/H&R combo tbh, so I owe you some thanks!

I've got standard geo though, I was tempted to get some more camber on the front before a track day but the front tyres held up just great at zero camber.

[Armut Schweinefleisch-911]

Thanks guys. Lots to think about.

I definitely need to sort the ride height on mine but all the springs I've seen are -35mm max whereas I'd prefer -50 to -55mm really but only for the aesthetic as I'm a bit of a tart. If I had the cash I'd probably go with coilovers.