what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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Fast Bug

11,740 posts

162 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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Chris Stott said:
James.... you need to swap your road roller rear tyres wink
No way, I like how it looks!

I'll just constantly have a full tank of fuel and 30 litres of paint in the frunk biggrin

MrC986

3,510 posts

192 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:
Thanks guys. Lots to think about.

I definitely need to sort the ride height on mine but all the springs I've seen are -35mm max whereas I'd prefer -50 to -55mm really but only for the aesthetic as I'm a bit of a tart. If I had the cash I'd probably go with coilovers.
You’ll need an updated set of front top mounts and possible further suspension component changes to run such a low ride height as well as possible substantial negative camber - this could make the ride very unruly and lead to it acting like it wants to tramline in all directions on uneven road surfaces. If you’ve a C2, there are more options on the suspension changes than a C4. There was a suspension feature in 911 and Porsche magazine in December 2019 (I’ll see if I have a copy) where they tested various replacement options with the help of Chris & Pete from Center Gravity which you might find sensible. They also had cars with different wheel sizes and tyre combinations.

Armut Schweinefleisch-911

16,205 posts

174 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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MrC986 said:
Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:
Thanks guys. Lots to think about.

I definitely need to sort the ride height on mine but all the springs I've seen are -35mm max whereas I'd prefer -50 to -55mm really but only for the aesthetic as I'm a bit of a tart. If I had the cash I'd probably go with coilovers.
You’ll need an updated set of front top mounts and possible further suspension component changes to run such a low ride height as well as possible substantial negative camber - this could make the ride very unruly and lead to it acting like it wants to tramline in all directions on uneven road surfaces. If you’ve a C2, there are more options on the suspension changes than a C4. There was a suspension feature in 911 and Porsche magazine in December 2019 (I’ll see if I have a copy) where they tested various replacement options with the help of Chris & Pete from Center Gravity which you might find sensible. They also had cars with different wheel sizes and tyre combinations.
I'd certainly be keen to read that if you find it - thank you.

I figured there would be good reason why it wasn't common to see 996 run so low.

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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The GT3 for example has a lowered subframe compared to the standard car which is one of the reasons it can run so low without screwing up the suspension geometry. Does the GT3 have different front hubs too?

There is an X74 suspension option which is lower and stiffer than the M030 option, it's generally agreed to be pretty unpleasant on the road and that drops the car by 40mm front 30mm rear I think?

That kind of suggests that this is about the limit to retain acceptable geometry with the standard parts, I think the X74 has specific top mounts too? I've got (new) M030 and it's great on road and track IMO, much stiffer would be too much on the road.

ATM

18,315 posts

220 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Armut Schweinefleisch-911 said:
Thanks guys. Lots to think about.

I definitely need to sort the ride height on mine but all the springs I've seen are -35mm max whereas I'd prefer -50 to -55mm really but only for the aesthetic as I'm a bit of a tart. If I had the cash I'd probably go with coilovers.
Come and see mine. Its very low and rock hard. Here it is wearing 18 inch when I first bought it.



To give you an idea there was about 75mm arch to 18 inch rim front and rear.




Dammit

3,790 posts

209 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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My car is running at X74, it's -30 front and rear.


Chris Stott

13,430 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Anything much below a 30mm drop and you won’t be able to get a sensible alignment without non standard suspension parts.

For aesthetics, you could run a different tyre size/profile - to further close the arch/tyre gap.

ATM

18,315 posts

220 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Chris Stott said:
Anything much below a 30mm drop and you won’t be able to get a sensible alignment without non standard suspension parts.

For aesthetics, you could run a different tyre size/profile - to further close the arch/tyre gap.
Yes I have some negative camber going on. My chosen Porsche specialist refused to adjust the tracking after a quick inspection because they said it was too low. Then I took it to Aline in Dudley and they sorted it no problem.

Armut Schweinefleisch-911

16,205 posts

174 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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ATM said:
That's exactly how I'd like mine to sit.

I'll get a pic of mine later now I've changed the rear tyres and fitted spacers up front.

Chris Stott

13,430 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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This is mine (set up in previous post).

I’d like it to look lower and also have a bit of rake, so may switch to a 265/40, which would add around 13mm of side wall height at the rear... closing the tyre/arch gap and giving a bit of extra rake.


ATM

18,315 posts

220 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Chris Stott said:
I’d like it to look lower

Sand bags?

Chris Stott

13,430 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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laugh

Armut Schweinefleisch-911

16,205 posts

174 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Current ride height. I still had 5mm front spacers to fit at this point. Rear tyres are 275/40r18’s.



Ted getting in the way.






Chris Stott

13,430 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Sure the rears are 40 profile? Look like a 35.


Armut Schweinefleisch-911

16,205 posts

174 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Chris Stott said:
Sure the rears are 40 profile? Look like a 35.
You’re right. It’s the fronts that are 40. 235r40x18’s.

Fast Bug

11,740 posts

162 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Seeing as we're doing ride heights


Baked_bean

1,908 posts

193 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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I am currently running Koni dampers and H&R springs on my car….really good compromise IMO.

Not the best Photo, but gives an idea of ride height


shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Fast Bug said:
Seeing as we're doing ride heights

Looks so great on those wheels!

Armut Schweinefleisch-911

16,205 posts

174 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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+1

Some great looking 996 in this thread. I think they've aged so well and it's easy to see why they're getting more popular.


Long shot but if anyone has a set of H&R springs or a set of coilovers they're removed please drop me a message.

ATM

18,315 posts

220 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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1998
C2
Manual
88900 Miles

£17,995

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184983624932