what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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Mallone

205 posts

248 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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ATM said:
Looking good
nebpor said:
Car looks sensational!
Chris Stott said:
That looks the dogs
Fast Bug said:
That looks great!
guyvert1 said:
That looks proper naughty...
Thanks all. Very, very happy with how it's turned out. Looks very purposeful and feels really special to drive.

RM said:
It would be great to read more on the 3.7 and the wheels! You don’t have a thread on the Morgan do you?
No thread on the Morgan yet. Haven't done a single thing to it over the last year. Too busy with work and getting the 996 sorted. Currently tucked up in a barn and hoping to get to it in the summer. I have a friend who has asked for it to be a wedding car next year so need to get cracking!

BrotherMouzone said:
That’s lovely.

We want details smile
Slippydiff said:
Wheels are OZ Alleggerita HLT.
Very reasonably priced and lightweight too :

https://www.ozracing.com/uk/alloy-wheels/oz-racing...

Was the 3.7 conversion carried out by Hartech, Autofarm or another company OP ?

Was it a straightforward capacity increase, or were other performance enhancements made to the engine at the same time as the capacity increase ?
Good spot on the wheels. Had been wanting a set of Alleggerita's for ages, inspired by PPBB's and Jethro's 996, and these came up for sale on FB marketplace for a price I couldn't say no to. They are SO much lighter than the original split rims. Couldn't believe the difference.

For the 3.7 conversion Hartech did the machining for liners/closed deck etc and supplied pistons to suit. The build was completed by Angus @ AMS Porsche. It's got some nice new equal length manifolds, but otherwise is stock (other than the new capacity and lots of shiny new bits to replace the old parts, obviously). I'll do a proper write up on the engine at some point, but the main difference is the torque. It's got LOTS more grunt everywhere. On a fast B road, 3rd and 4th gear are insane.

New suspension has also made a BIG difference compared to the tired old M030 kit that was on there before. Got some new Eibach hollow adjustable ARB's to go on and then the chassis should be finished. It's been a fun project so far smile

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Trying to buy some EBC yellows and apparently no one has supply of fronts because EBC themselves are out - global supply chain shortages and what not. So what pad is recommended as a good alternative to standard Brembo. Must have unbelievable bite from cold. Not interested in cooking them. Gentle road use only.

Thanks
ATM

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

195 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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ATM said:
Trying to buy some EBC yellows and apparently no one has supply of fronts because EBC themselves are out - global supply chain shortages and what not. So what pad is recommended as a good alternative to standard Brembo. Must have unbelievable bite from cold. Not interested in cooking them. Gentle road use only.

Thanks
ATM
I've got some yellowstuff but they're not great on the road unless you drive like a lunatic IMO, certainly they're a pain around town as they're noisy. I use them on track but swap back to OE for normal use.

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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shalmaneser said:
ATM said:
Trying to buy some EBC yellows and apparently no one has supply of fronts because EBC themselves are out - global supply chain shortages and what not. So what pad is recommended as a good alternative to standard Brembo. Must have unbelievable bite from cold. Not interested in cooking them. Gentle road use only.

Thanks
ATM
I've got some yellowstuff but they're not great on the road unless you drive like a lunatic IMO, certainly they're a pain around town as they're noisy. I use them on track but swap back to OE for normal use.
Are they old or recently produced - I believe EBC went through some manufacturing problems and changes a few years ago?

I have some on my big BMW estate car and they are great. There might have been a little bit of squealing, now you mention it, when they were first fitted. But now they have been on a while they are totally quiet.

Fast Bug

11,702 posts

161 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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I run Pagid Blue and they're fine bar the odd squeal when stone cold

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Fast Bug said:
I run Pagid Blue and they're fine bar the odd squeal when stone cold
Good bite from cold?

EBC sell blue, orange and red but I've no idea if they'll give me cold bite.

Fast Bug

11,702 posts

161 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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ATM said:
Fast Bug said:
I run Pagid Blue and they're fine bar the odd squeal when stone cold
Good bite from cold?

EBC sell blue, orange and red but I've no idea if they'll give me cold bite.
Yup, I've no complaints with them. I've had fast road pads before that have been awful unless you're pressing on, these have been spot on

barryrs

4,391 posts

223 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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barryrs said:
I have some carbon wing mirror covers coming and might go with some graphics to break up the silver on mine but undecided still.

Shiny


So these arrived today



Look like really good quality and I didn’t get hit with any import duty.

barryrs

4,391 posts

223 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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BrotherMouzone said:
If you have a chance could you weight them and weigh the oem mirrors please? smile
NS is 176g and OS 160g smile

Will try and remember to weigh the originals at the weekend but can’t imagine there is much in it.

Edit WTF ????

Edited by barryrs on Wednesday 9th March 20:56

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

195 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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ATM said:
Are they old or recently produced - I believe EBC went through some manufacturing problems and changes a few years ago?

I have some on my big BMW estate car and they are great. There might have been a little bit of squealing, now you mention it, when they were first fitted. But now they have been on a while they are totally quiet.
about a year old? Maybe they use different pads for different vehicles... Having said that I do live in London, maybe if i was out in the country they'd work better for me!

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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shalmaneser said:
ATM said:
Are they old or recently produced - I believe EBC went through some manufacturing problems and changes a few years ago?

I have some on my big BMW estate car and they are great. There might have been a little bit of squealing, now you mention it, when they were first fitted. But now they have been on a while they are totally quiet.
about a year old? Maybe they use different pads for different vehicles... Having said that I do live in London, maybe if i was out in the country they'd work better for me!
I'm in a city too but not quite as big as London town. Bought some good quality ATE discs for the big BMW. Not drilled or anything. Not sure if this makes a difference to squeal. Pics of a rear below - old discs were really F'ed.

I'd assume an EBC yellow for one car is the same compound as another - but no reason other than just my version of common sense.






identti

2,380 posts

225 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Mallone said:
Been meaning to update my Readers Cars thread for ages, been about a year since the last post, but the car was looking extra nice after a quick wash the other day and thought this thread might appreciate it.

I can confirm, now thats it properly run in, that a 3.7L conversion feels quite a bit punchier than a standard car.... smile



Edited by Mallone on Monday 7th March 16:41
This is looking epic! I do miss my 996, albeit a 3.4 with a few tweaks. I hope you have an LSD on that 3.7 car - my first 996 had one and it really benefits from it.

gixermark

Original Poster:

742 posts

187 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Mallone said:
Been meaning to update my Readers Cars thread for ages, been about a year since the last post, but the car was looking extra nice after a quick wash the other day and thought this thread might appreciate it.

I can confirm, now thats it properly run in, that a 3.7L conversion feels quite a bit punchier than a standard car.... smile



Edited by Mallone on Monday 7th March 16:41
that looks fab - thats not marky911 old one is it ? looks fab anyway

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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identti said:
I hope you have an LSD on that 3.7 car - my first 996 had one and it really benefits from it.
Not being a knob just genuinely interested - why?

Drew986

137 posts

190 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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ATM said:
Trying to buy some EBC yellows and apparently no one has supply of fronts because EBC themselves are out - global supply chain shortages and what not. So what pad is recommended as a good alternative to standard Brembo. Must have unbelievable bite from cold. Not interested in cooking them. Gentle road use only.

Thanks
ATM
I recently fitted a set of Akebono ceramic pads to my 996 along with new Sebro disc's, they perform every bit as well as OE Textar pads (not tried Brembo pads) with the added bonus of producing way less brake dust.

Only downside is they are not available in the UK, I bought them from Pelican parts in the US and they were with me within a week of ordering.

Mallone

205 posts

248 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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gixermark said:
that looks fab - thats not marky911 old one is it ? looks fab anyway
No, not marky911's old one, but they do look pretty similar. Have chatted to the new owner of that car a bit on 911UK.


identti said:
This is looking epic! I do miss my 996, albeit a 3.4 with a few tweaks. I hope you have an LSD on that 3.7 car - my first 996 had one and it really benefits from it.
It does have an LSD (that still appears to work based on the way it will spin the rears up in the wet) but I can't say I've ever noticed it/needed it in the dry....

gixermark

Original Poster:

742 posts

187 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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yup - was an awesome car that......... yours looks fab too.

barryrs

4,391 posts

223 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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Fitted the covers today.

The fit is good but not as good as OE, pretty easy just a bit fiddly to do.


MrC986

3,496 posts

191 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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A Hartech rebuilt engined Carrera manual just listed by the looks of it with 125k miles.... http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=149190&sid=fb...

Given the price increases on early 996s, what's the considered opinion currently on a fully rebuilt Hartech engined car over one without (or a rebuild not done by Hartech)?!

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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MrC986 said:
A Hartech rebuilt engined Carrera manual just listed by the looks of it with 125k miles.... http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=149190&sid=fb...

Given the price increases on early 996s, what's the considered opinion currently on a fully rebuilt Hartech engined car over one without (or a rebuild not done by Hartech)?!
This car is on PH Classifieds too

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13090613