what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

[julian987R]

Porsche 911 996 Carrera 4S Cabriolet - Is A 986 Boxster Truly The Better Convertible?

[shalmaneser]

tobie said:

I've actually been considering selling my early 996 C4, 68k miles now - we bought on 54k two years ago.

It's got the full factory aerokit and has (IMO) a really cool colour way (vesuvius grey exterior, grey interior).

I've done most of the usual bits and bobs on the car, like:
- coffin arms, fork arms
- top mounts / coilovers
- discs / pads all round, fresh stainless bleed nipples
- water pump / drive belt / all pulley bearings
- fixed a few minor oil leaks
- gearbox oil
- running 10w50 millers nano drive oil
- plugs
- it's had a (controversial I know), EPS IMS bearing replacement, along with clutch etc - there was some minor play in the old one.

Mechanically, the car is in good shape and it's not used any oil at all in my ownership.

Sadly the thing that lets it down is some bubbling creeping in on the arches and various bits of paint not being mint, not helped by the fact the car appears to have sat around for a lot of its life, my plan was to tidy it up - I've even gone and spoke to Sportwagen about paint but their advice was it wasn't really bad enough to warrant attention just yet (I think they tend to just paint the entire car, so it's a minor $$$ increase for it to be worse), I did as they advised and treated it as best as I could for now.

The final bad point is due to the car sitting around the service history has a large gap (but not on mileage), mileage was verified to be genuine based on durametric readings.

Wondered if any of you might have some advice on how to price the car? It wasn't something I was ever planning on selling, but a new job means less free time and I already have another project so to speak.

In reckon it would be worthwhile getting the arches done before sale. Things like that take the shine off the initial first purchase feeling, and makes the car feel like a project from day one.

[WojaWabbit]

ATM said:

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shalmaneser said:

ATM said:

I like this - car not seller

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155070071838

Seems like a nice car but very overpriced.

Now only 24500

I'm sure it's come down a bit

Sold

Showing as "Ended - Unsold" for me.

All vehicles show unsold. That's standard for ebay. Vehicle sales do not complete via eBay. You complete outside of eBay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155118585582

Back up for £22,500. Isn't that a £4k drop from the original ad months ago?

[ATM]

WojaWabbit said:

ATM said:

WojaWabbit said:

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shalmaneser said:

ATM said:

I like this - car not seller

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155070071838

Seems like a nice car but very overpriced.

Now only 24500

I'm sure it's come down a bit

Sold

Showing as "Ended - Unsold" for me.

All vehicles show unsold. That's standard for ebay. Vehicle sales do not complete via eBay. You complete outside of eBay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155118585582

Back up for £22,500. Isn't that a £4k drop from the original ad months ago?

Maybe more I think it was 27 so in that ball park.

I mean its looking like a good buy right now if you sell those awful wheels. I'd be tempted to try to strike a deal without those wheels.

As discussed earlier it is a C4 - if that bothers you. Also it is not that early as its a 2001 car but it allegedly has Hartech liners - no idea what other Hartech goodies or if that is all 6

[roca1976]

My dad is thinking of selling his C4. Owned from new and only 69k. No sunroof or rear wiper. I don't think he ticked any options boxes!

[ATM]

roca1976 said:

My dad is thinking of selling his C4. Owned from new and only 69k. No sunroof or rear wiper. I don't think he ticked any options boxes!

Owned From New

Oh My God

It must be hurting to have to sell that now

[jonny996]

roca1976 said:

My dad is thinking of selling his C4. Owned from new and only 69k. No sunroof or rear wiper. I don't think he ticked any options boxes!

Surely you have to buy it

[roca1976]

Neither of us are particularly sentimental abouts cars, he doesn't use it much and I would prefer a gen 2 cayman

[tobie]

shalmaneser said:

In reckon it would be worthwhile getting the arches done before sale. Things like that take the shine off the initial first purchase feeling, and makes the car feel like a project from day one.

Broadly I agree, but honestly it's really quite minor, so it's possible someone could enjoy the car without doing them (although my plan is to do them at some stage either way).

I wouldn't be after "top money" as such, if someone wanted one with an intention to modify it would be perfect.

Figured it was worth mentioning here incase someone lurking wants one!

[Ahonen]

Morning all. I need a bit of feedback from you, please. How noisy are your gearboxes? Mine ('99 C2 manual) sounds a bit, well, grumbly over the last six months. It's not a ticking noise or a whine as such, just that I think I can hear the gearbox chuntering more than I used to - especially off throttle (obviously as you don't have the exhaust noise). It's definitely not engine related as dipping the clutch makes no difference. If anything I'd say it's slightly more noticeable when the car is hot than cold.

It's not a sudden thing and I noticed it months ago, before it had a major service where the gearbox oil was also changed. The oil looked fine, by the way. At motorway speeds you don't notice it as tyre noise takes over and turning the radio on makes it almost completely disappear at slow speeds. There's no issue with gear selection.

Could it be a worn out gearbox mount? Or should I start to brace for a bit of pain? Thanks for any feedback.

[deckster]

Ahonen said:

Morning all. I need a bit of feedback from you, please. How noisy are your gearboxes? Mine ('99 C2 manual) sounds a bit, well, grumbly over the last six months. It's not a ticking noise or a whine as such, just that I think I can hear the gearbox chuntering more than I used to - especially off throttle (obviously as you don't have the exhaust noise). It's definitely not engine related as dipping the clutch makes no difference. If anything I'd say it's slightly more noticeable when the car is hot than cold.

It's not a sudden thing and I noticed it months ago, before it had a major service where the gearbox oil was also changed. The oil looked fine, by the way. At motorway speeds you don't notice it as tyre noise takes over and turning the radio on makes it almost completely disappear at slow speeds. There's no issue with gear selection.

Could it be a worn out gearbox mount? Or should I start to brace for a bit of pain? Thanks for any feedback.

From the way you describe the noise, I'm thinking A/C. Try turning the A/C off and see if the noise goes away.

If it does, then you need to top up the A/C gas and then find the leak. Or leaks, more than likely.

[Smollet]

I recently sold my 996.1,c2 manual coupe with 39k on it for £22750. Basically what I paid for it 4 1/2 years ago. Now got a 986s. Couldn’t be happier.

[Ahonen]

deckster said:

From the way you describe the noise, I'm thinking A/C. Try turning the A/C off and see if the noise goes away.

If it does, then you need to top up the A/C gas and then find the leak. Or leaks, more than likely.

Thanks. That's interesting. The A/C still seems to work as well as ever but I'll give it a quick run this afternoon and see what happens.

[deckster]

Ahonen said:

deckster said:

From the way you describe the noise, I'm thinking A/C. Try turning the A/C off and see if the noise goes away.

If it does, then you need to top up the A/C gas and then find the leak. Or leaks, more than likely.

Thanks. That's interesting. The A/C still seems to work as well as ever but I'll give it a quick run this afternoon and see what happens.

It's an easy test and will confirm one way or the other. My A/C used to get noisy when the gas was low, so it still worked, but it was an early warning that it was going to give out in the next few weeks depending on how bad the leak was.

[ATM]

Ahonen said:

Morning all. I need a bit of feedback from you, please. How noisy are your gearboxes? Mine ('99 C2 manual) sounds a bit, well, grumbly over the last six months. It's not a ticking noise or a whine as such, just that I think I can hear the gearbox chuntering more than I used to - especially off throttle (obviously as you don't have the exhaust noise). It's definitely not engine related as dipping the clutch makes no difference. If anything I'd say it's slightly more noticeable when the car is hot than cold.

Beyond the discussion about AC - I'm not sure this sounds like gearbox to me. Surely a noisy gearbox would stop being noisy once clutch engaged otherwise the noise could only be diff related. When we get bearing whine this is not diff right but gearbox itself?

[Ahonen]

ATM said:

Beyond the discussion about AC - I'm not sure this sounds like gearbox to me. Surely a noisy gearbox would stop being noisy once clutch engaged otherwise the noise could only be diff related. When we get bearing whine this is not diff right but gearbox itself?

I should have been clearer there. When I mentioned pressing the clutch I meant when the car is moving at say 50-60mph, so the engine rpm drops to idle but the noise continues and slowly reduces in pitch as the car slows, which is why I thought it was more gearbox related. I've experienced wheel bearings many times and this doesn't sound the same.

[Rich_AR]

Ahonen said:

I should have been clearer there. When I mentioned pressing the clutch I meant when the car is moving at say 50-60mph, so the engine rpm drops to idle but the noise continues and slowly reduces in pitch as the car slows, which is why I thought it was more gearbox related. I've experienced wheel bearings many times and this doesn't sound the same.

Driveshaft maybe?

[nunpuncher]

tobie said:

shalmaneser said:

In reckon it would be worthwhile getting the arches done before sale. Things like that take the shine off the initial first purchase feeling, and makes the car feel like a project from day one.

Broadly I agree, but honestly it's really quite minor, so it's possible someone could enjoy the car without doing them (although my plan is to do them at some stage either way).

I wouldn't be after "top money" as such, if someone wanted one with an intention to modify it would be perfect.

Figured it was worth mentioning here incase someone lurking wants one!

Front arches or rear arches?

If you are talking rear arches then the bubbles are the tip of the iceberg. I had some bubbles on both of mine so I had them cut out and fresh steel welded in. There is no point in sanding back and painting inside out rust as it'll just come back.

The guy that did it said it wasn't actually that bad but the rears do rust inside out and he's seen a few where the rust is creeping right round inside. I paid £2k to have it all fixed along with the sill ends (behind the wee reverse mudflap thingies). I mainly did this because I've been thinking about selling and I wouldn't consider selling a car on that wasn't as good as it could be.

With all that done and a list of other stuff similar to your car done I recently said I'd value mine at around £16.5k. Others seemed to think a bit more based on the info I gave at the time. Not sure if that helps or hinders your valuation.

[PGNSagaris]

julian987R said:

Porsche 911 996 Carrera 4S Cabriolet - Is A 986 Boxster Truly The Better Convertible?

Have you stumbled into a wrong thread or just fancied a bit of spamming??

[Chris Stott]

nunpuncher said:

Front arches or rear arches?

If you are talking rear arches then the bubbles are the tip of the iceberg. I had some bubbles on both of mine so I had them cut out and fresh steel welded in. There is no point in sanding back and painting inside out rust as it'll just come back.

The guy that did it said it wasn't actually that bad but the rears do rust inside out and he's seen a few where the rust is creeping right round inside. I paid £2k to have it all fixed along with the sill ends (behind the wee reverse mudflap thingies). I mainly did this because I've been thinking about selling and I wouldn't consider selling a car on that wasn't as good as it could be.

With all that done and a list of other stuff similar to your car done I recently said I'd value mine at around £16.5k. Others seemed to think a bit more based on the info I gave at the time. Not sure if that helps or hinders your valuation.

I've just had my front and rear arches done to finish the car off after the underneath and sills were done earlier in the year.

My wife is pushing to sell it as it's not the best thing for her to commute in to london 3 days a week, but not sure what we'd get for it really... as well as the body work. it's mechanically decent, but it's done >200k miles.

Might make a good project car for someone who wants to build a 3.7 (even though the engine is still strong) I guess, but need to find the right buyer.