what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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595Heaven

2,420 posts

79 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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jonny996 said:
Perfect if you like spending hours cleaning wheels, they are a bh to keep clean.
They look like a walk in the park compared to the AMG multispokes smile

ferrisbueller

29,343 posts

228 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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PCCB on a '98 Carrera?

scratchchin

MrC986

3,497 posts

192 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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ferrisbueller said:
PCCB on a '98 Carrera?

scratchchin
That's what I thought when I read the ad. I appreciate it's a Carrera but it's the rest of the recent history in terms of suspension and clutch etc. which would need to be known to help support whether a circa £20k asking price is right or not.

By coincidence I know of a Hartech engined 996 manual Targa that will be for sale shortly (having had a full rebuild) plus suspension replacement and all the other important items you'd want done on a circa 20 year old car (including the roof).

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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MrC986 said:
I appreciate it's a Carrera but it's the rest of the recent history in terms of suspension and clutch etc. which would need to be known to help support whether a circa £20k asking price is right or not.
Porsche Specialist AMS for Invictus Motors in Bishop Stortford did the rebuild. Are these well respected?

It should be obvious if the clutch is new and gears should all feel lovely if it had a gearbox overhaul [not sure what this means] and then also a new 2nd gear and whatever else he mentions on top.

The problem with these cars seems to be market expectation that a good one is only worth 20k. That seems like madness to Me. I see a 25k car there minimum. Until the market wakes up these look an absolute bargain if you ask me.

But it seems that's always the case with threads like ours. Owners talk up prices and buyers talk them down. I guess this is just the same. I might go see this one. I'd be interested to try the Ohlins setup.

jonny996

2,618 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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I tent to agree,” the it takes £20K” statement is a few years old now & the whole car market has shifted in that time.
Of course these are toys and not modes of transportation, so may be affected more by cost of living crisis.
I may be wrong but I’ve always thought that there is a pool of owners who have the spare money to have it sitting in a 996 & once they get a good one they just keep it for a very long time because let’s be honest, if you have a good one, there is nothing out there that comparisons for the money.

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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This one looks interesting. Well I don't like the front bumper or the wheels so maybe I should say this one seems interesting.

Hartech owned previously
Fruity exhaust
Claims 350bhp
Coilovers

Current owner bought from Hartech and kept on Gold Maintenance package ever since

19 grand

PS - I like the way PH have started embedding their ads into threads like this...below...

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14083639

Dammit

3,790 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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I want to do some painting in the garage without having to run the car out every time- is there a plastic cover that won’t scratch the car which is cheap enough to cover with splashes of masonry paint?

Slippydiff

14,851 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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Dammit said:
I want to do some painting in the garage without having to run the car out every time- is there a plastic cover that won’t scratch the car which is cheap enough to cover with splashes of masonry paint?
Here you go Neil :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hinrichs-Dust-Sheet-1-Pac...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RAULDE-Plastic-Sheets-Dec...

Dammit

3,790 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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Thanks Henry - I didn’t want to throw a sheet over the car thinking I was protecting it, then pull the sheet off to find the car covered in fine scratches, so drawing on peoples prior experience is very useful.

Now, do you fancy doing some painting?

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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MrC986 said:
By coincidence I know of a Hartech engined 996 manual Targa that will be for sale shortly (having had a full rebuild) plus suspension replacement and all the other important items you'd want done on a circa 20 year old car (including the roof).
This one sold recently

Hartech engine

Quite good reg

13950

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255680212654




BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

175 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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Bargain!

Hippea

1,818 posts

70 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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Hippea said:
A Porsche short engine will still be prone to bore scoring. So if there are Hartech liners cars available for the same price then that's where my money would be going.

delays

786 posts

216 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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Some interesting examples in those links.

I’m trying to price mine, as a growing family means my sports car days might be over for a while. I did buy it as a keeper, however, priorities change I guess - sad to be leaving the fold, potentially.

Inspired by this thread, it’s a ‘99 3.4 C2 manual, with the cable throttle and non-sunroof shell. 82k miles.

Not the best time of year for selling, but I think I’ll chance my arm with a private ad before ringing the usual suspects.

MrC986

3,497 posts

192 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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delays said:
Some interesting examples in those links.

I’m trying to price mine, as a growing family means my sports car days might be over for a while. I did buy it as a keeper, however, priorities change I guess - sad to be leaving the fold, potentially.

Inspired by this thread, it’s a ‘99 3.4 C2 manual, with the cable throttle and non-sunroof shell. 82k miles.

Not the best time of year for selling, but I think I’ll chance my arm with a private ad before ringing the usual suspects.
I’d also put it on the 996 owners page on Facebook as you might find someone who knows of a prospective buyer & also on the 911uk forum.

Edmundo2

1,346 posts

211 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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delays said:
Some interesting examples in those links.

I’m trying to price mine, as a growing family means my sports car days might be over for a while. I did buy it as a keeper, however, priorities change I guess - sad to be leaving the fold, potentially.

Inspired by this thread, it’s a ‘99 3.4 C2 manual, with the cable throttle and non-sunroof shell. 82k miles.

Not the best time of year for selling, but I think I’ll chance my arm with a private ad before ringing the usual suspects.
Any more info? I could be in the markert soon, ( currently in the process if selling a Caterham ), and thinking a well sorted 996 might be the way to go ...

Buying back my old Cayman is an option , ( cracking modded car ), as is buying a Hartech rebuilt 997 but I think hot 996 could be the way forward..If so I can either start with a cheapish solid base car and mod it or alternatively try to find a real beauty that's been done.. If I go the latter then will need to have high quality coil overs, seats, exhaust etc etc. If the opportunity arose then something with a 3.7 or 3.9 conversion would be great but these are few and far between..

To build from scratch will cost more as modding is generally a diminishing return however trying to find a modded car that's to my taste or seemingly justifies the price tag is tricky and I could be waiting a while..A CSR spec car would tick the box I think ..

Anyhow enough rambling but please drop me a pm if your car fits either bill just in case. cheers, Ed

SteveStrange

3,862 posts

214 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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595Heaven said:
jonny996 said:
Perfect if you like spending hours cleaning wheels, they are a bh to keep clean.
They look like a walk in the park compared to the AMG multispokes smile
I have those wheels and it takes longer to clean the wheels than to (properly) clean the rest of the car.

In other news, mine is back with a fresh water pump, and otherwise feels in fine health. I've got an eternally dry bushing n the front nearside, which creaks and groans constantly. Identified (by a local specialist) as the lower arm. Been replaced, still creaks. What's the bushing lubricant of choice? I want to get underneath it and sort it properly.

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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SteveStrange said:
595Heaven said:
jonny996 said:
Perfect if you like spending hours cleaning wheels, they are a bh to keep clean.
They look like a walk in the park compared to the AMG multispokes smile
I have those wheels and it takes longer to clean the wheels than to (properly) clean the rest of the car.

In other news, mine is back with a fresh water pump, and otherwise feels in fine health. I've got an eternally dry bushing n the front nearside, which creaks and groans constantly. Identified (by a local specialist) as the lower arm. Been replaced, still creaks. What's the bushing lubricant of choice? I want to get underneath it and sort it properly.
Creaking from the front is either a) coffin arm ball joints or b) top mounts. I suppose it could be ARB bushes but that's pretty unusual. Sounds like you coffin arms have been done so that only really leaves top mounts?

SteveStrange

3,862 posts

214 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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shalmaneser said:
SteveStrange said:
595Heaven said:
jonny996 said:
Perfect if you like spending hours cleaning wheels, they are a bh to keep clean.
They look like a walk in the park compared to the AMG multispokes smile
I have those wheels and it takes longer to clean the wheels than to (properly) clean the rest of the car.

In other news, mine is back with a fresh water pump, and otherwise feels in fine health. I've got an eternally dry bushing n the front nearside, which creaks and groans constantly. Identified (by a local specialist) as the lower arm. Been replaced, still creaks. What's the bushing lubricant of choice? I want to get underneath it and sort it properly.
Creaking from the front is either a) coffin arm ball joints or b) top mounts. I suppose it could be ARB bushes but that's pretty unusual. Sounds like you coffin arms have been done so that only really leaves top mounts?
The creaking is with vertical movement. Speed bumps, hard accel/braking etc. Steering left and right doesn't creak at all. Every inspection I've had (3 x inspections from 2 x garages) have said the same - dry bushes in the bottom arm (coffin arm). I had it changed, it still creaked, so the garage (local and well respected Pork specialist) changed it again and it STILL creaked It's almost a case of "they all do that sir"!

Mariosbt

2,452 posts

67 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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SteveStrange said:
The creaking is with vertical movement. Speed bumps, hard accel/braking etc. Steering left and right doesn't creak at all. Every inspection I've had (3 x inspections from 2 x garages) have said the same - dry bushes in the bottom arm (coffin arm). I had it changed, it still creaked, so the garage (local and well respected Pork specialist) changed it again and it STILL creaked It's almost a case of "they all do that sir"!
Top mounts then thumbup

My 997.1 has the same issue but not got round to getting it booked in yet frown