what is an 'early' 3.4 996?
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chappardababbar said:
Thank you for your thoughts. If I went with 18s I would go for:
8/10, with ET35/50.
mr. slippydiff, whilst I have your attention I recall you have some experience with 996 GT3s. I am currently on the lookout for a 996.1 or ideally .2 gearbox. If you were in my position, who would you speak to, to source one?
Spare 996 GT3 gearboxes aren’t exactly commonplace these days. I’d speak to Matt at Fearnsport, Mike at Sports and Classic to start off with, but neither the Mk 1 or 2 ‘boxes will be cheap, and there’s every chance they’ll need rebuilding too …8/10, with ET35/50.
mr. slippydiff, whilst I have your attention I recall you have some experience with 996 GT3s. I am currently on the lookout for a 996.1 or ideally .2 gearbox. If you were in my position, who would you speak to, to source one?
As an aside, you’ll most likely be aware the 996 GT3 transmissions won’t fit the Mk 1 or 2 996 M96 engines ?
Macadamia over Cocoa, now that’s a rare (and lovely) colour combination.
A 996 is indeed a very different drive to the 997.2. The latter far more refined and less tactile.
They would have been 11” x 19 rear wheels and 295 or 305 section tyres, a lot of rubber.
Edited by Slippydiff on Sunday 14th April 13:16
jonny996 said:
Do we believe the 50k miles with a passenger seat like this as it looks badly worn. Also if it's had 5 owners how does the current owner know it's even been garaged for 20 years. Front lights not litronic and not amber. Otherwise it could be a good un. You'd need to have a good look at it. My 23k mile 986 was garaged or dry stored all it's life and looked brand new under the plastic covers by the battery. So it's easy to spot a well stored car if it's for real. It's very difficult to see any real evidence in the pics. Only note worthy items are the rear window seal looks nice. As does the metal trim on the outside edge of the engine compartment where it meets the bumper. Door sill trims look a bit faded. I do like no side air bag door panels. If it's had very little maintenance then there are a long list of potential jobs waiting for you. Just like any other 25 or 26 year old 996. Although you'd hope for no rust or corrosion problems and therefore brake lines and other pipes and tubes in good condition too.
MOT history backs up the mileage, it’s done less than 500 miles per year.
But as you say, what service has been done in that time.
Road tax check, shows V5 last issued in 2012 , so definitely had it 12 years & probably more as that would be for the plate change.
It’s also sitting in the driveway of a £1.5 - £2M house.
All in all , if I were looking, I’d be looking there
But as you say, what service has been done in that time.
Road tax check, shows V5 last issued in 2012 , so definitely had it 12 years & probably more as that would be for the plate change.
It’s also sitting in the driveway of a £1.5 - £2M house.
All in all , if I were looking, I’d be looking there
Much better detective work than me. I just can't get past that seat being only a 50k car. And also only 500 miles a year is maybe a red flag just like any car that's not used. Perhaps points to an elderly owner who just lost interest over the years. Perhaps now no longer with us unfortunately or just too old to drive it. Very unlikely it's had much work done in recent years but you never know. Car definitely has a story to tell. So do you know where the car lives from just looking at the ad?
jonny996 said:
MOT history backs up the mileage, it’s done less than 500 miles per year.
But as you say, what service has been done in that time.
Road tax check, shows V5 last issued in 2012 , so definitely had it 12 years & probably more as that would be for the plate change.
It’s also sitting in the driveway of a £1.5 - £2M house.
All in all , if I were looking, I’d be looking there
I nearly went to see it, bought an Elise instead.But as you say, what service has been done in that time.
Road tax check, shows V5 last issued in 2012 , so definitely had it 12 years & probably more as that would be for the plate change.
It’s also sitting in the driveway of a £1.5 - £2M house.
All in all , if I were looking, I’d be looking there
Was very very tempting though.
ATM said:
So do you know where the car lives from just looking at the ad?
I know the road, it’s one of the smartest bits of Edinburgh. Still a semi detached property though, could be dodgy.
Just checked… ~£900k in 2010
Maybe I’m naive but if everything else looks good from the ad, and granting the seller some credibility based on location (like I said I’m naive), I’d be just asking the direct question about the seat. maybe the owner just wore very abrasive trousers for their work or something,
Edited by PlywoodPascal on Monday 15th April 08:04
Edited by PlywoodPascal on Monday 15th April 08:07
jonny996 said:
MOT history backs up the mileage, it’s done less than 500 miles per year.
But as you say, what service has been done in that time.
Road tax check, shows V5 last issued in 2012 , so definitely had it 12 years & probably more as that would be for the plate change.
It’s also sitting in the driveway of a £1.5 - £2M house.
All in all , if I were looking, I’d be looking there
MOT results suggest a lack of proper care though, and no MOT between 2019 & 2024, and its only done 100 odd miles in that 5 yearsBut as you say, what service has been done in that time.
Road tax check, shows V5 last issued in 2012 , so definitely had it 12 years & probably more as that would be for the plate change.
It’s also sitting in the driveway of a £1.5 - £2M house.
All in all , if I were looking, I’d be looking there
In its last few MOTs
Damaged front shocks?
Front Brakes imbalanced across axle
Brake discs worn
Brake pipe worn
Parking brake not working correctly
ATM said:
Much better detective work than me. I just can't get past that seat being only a 50k car. And also only 500 miles a year is maybe a red flag just like any car that's not used. Perhaps points to an elderly owner who just lost interest over the years. Perhaps now no longer with us unfortunately or just too old to drive it. Very unlikely it's had much work done in recent years but you never know. Car definitely has a story to tell. So do you know where the car lives from just looking at the ad?
Are the seats that bad? Im thinking they are grey ruched which most likely looked nasty when they left the factory. Yes its got far to much oil in it & could do with a good service, but get it for £17.5 , spend £2.5 on it & your sorted for the £20K we all agree on that is needed, which in reality is nearer £25K now.
Also, just along the road from me & ive never seen it out, would have jumped out to me as i also have a ocean blue 996.1 coupe
jonny996 said:
Are the seats that bad? Im thinking they are grey ruched which most likely looked nasty when they left the factory.
Yes its got far to much oil in it & could do with a good service, but get it for £17.5 , spend £2.5 on it & your sorted for the £20K we all agree on that is needed, which in reality is nearer £25K now.
Also, just along the road from me & ive never seen it out, would have jumped out to me as i also have a ocean blue 996.1 coupe
Sure there are positives. Its not all bad. I fear a car unused basically for 10 years is a tricky buy. Brake pipes mentioned on the MOT so maybe a full set of brakes pipes, tubes, discs and pads needed to get it going before you start on anything else. Who knows whats lurking underneath. If it lived outside in Scotland for the first 5 or 6 years of its life then there could be horrors. I cant imagine a well stored car getting brake pipe problems mentioned on the MOT. Generally when cars are not used they are never maintained too. I've been through the mill replacing every pipe and tube on my first 996 - been there done that.Yes its got far to much oil in it & could do with a good service, but get it for £17.5 , spend £2.5 on it & your sorted for the £20K we all agree on that is needed, which in reality is nearer £25K now.
Also, just along the road from me & ive never seen it out, would have jumped out to me as i also have a ocean blue 996.1 coupe
But yes we all know early cars like this are hard to find. So you have to be wiling to take a punt sometimes. My gut feel is a car like this used to sell in the first couple of weeks to someone like Friends Green but now I am not sure they are buying these. It wouldn't look out of place on their site for 24k.
Anyone have any thoughts/comments on current pricing for 'early' 996s (3.4)? I have one that is up for sale (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403267997078 for info). It's not a perfect garage queen and in more recent use over past 6 months hasn't given me any issues at all.
I've priced it at £15k which was slightly lower than average and I thought was reasonable given mileage and the fact it's a tip but I've had little serious interest and one offer that I considered to be way to low (~11) but he was a dealer (although I didn't realise that at the time).
Looking through the others available I am honestly slightly confused as to whether I have under or over priced!
If anyone has any thoughts or opinions or sold one recently and is willing to share what they sold it for (either here or privately) I'd appreciate it...
I've priced it at £15k which was slightly lower than average and I thought was reasonable given mileage and the fact it's a tip but I've had little serious interest and one offer that I considered to be way to low (~11) but he was a dealer (although I didn't realise that at the time).
Looking through the others available I am honestly slightly confused as to whether I have under or over priced!
If anyone has any thoughts or opinions or sold one recently and is willing to share what they sold it for (either here or privately) I'd appreciate it...
Speaking of values... looks like importing mine to Spain will be financially ruinous... 10% import duty + 21% VAT+ up to 17% registration tax + €1,500 flat admin fee on a nominal value of c.€40k 
So looks like it will need to be sold... how on earth do you value car that's had all the usual rust repaired and is mechanically very decent... but has 230k miles?
£9k?
So looks like it will need to be sold... how on earth do you value car that's had all the usual rust repaired and is mechanically very decent... but has 230k miles?
£9k?
Chris Stott said:
Speaking of values... looks like importing mine to Spain will be financially ruinous... 10% import duty + 21% VAT+ up to 17% registration tax + €1,500 flat admin fee on a nominal value of c.€40k
So looks like it will need to be sold... how on earth do you value car that's had all the usual rust repaired and is mechanically very decent... but has 230k miles?
£9k?
Got a mate lives in Southern Spain, has been faced with that dilemma whilst trying to import something “interesting”. He rapidly abandoned his plans.So looks like it will need to be sold... how on earth do you value car that's had all the usual rust repaired and is mechanically very decent... but has 230k miles?
£9k?
boxaw said:
Anyone have any thoughts/comments on current pricing for 'early' 996s (3.4)? I have one that is up for sale (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403267997078 for info). It's not a perfect garage queen and in more recent use over past 6 months hasn't given me any issues at all.
I've priced it at £15k which was slightly lower than average and I thought was reasonable given mileage and the fact it's a tip but I've had little serious interest and one offer that I considered to be way to low (~11) but he was a dealer (although I didn't realise that at the time).
Looking through the others available I am honestly slightly confused as to whether I have under or over priced!
If anyone has any thoughts or opinions or sold one recently and is willing to share what they sold it for (either here or privately) I'd appreciate it...
Your car has been linked here. General opinion was there's a lack of detail on the advert for work that's been done. You're really light on what's been done other than a service, and you don't state what service has ben carried out. It's also due an MOT next month, so if it's not had brakes/suspension/whatever done in the last few years then people will assume it'll need doing. I'd stick a fresh ticket on and have a breakdown of what work was completed and when.I've priced it at £15k which was slightly lower than average and I thought was reasonable given mileage and the fact it's a tip but I've had little serious interest and one offer that I considered to be way to low (~11) but he was a dealer (although I didn't realise that at the time).
Looking through the others available I am honestly slightly confused as to whether I have under or over priced!
If anyone has any thoughts or opinions or sold one recently and is willing to share what they sold it for (either here or privately) I'd appreciate it...
Also £15k might be a touch on the high side for a tip. It looks nice though and the miles are fairly low too
Chris Stott said:
Speaking of values... looks like importing mine to Spain will be financially ruinous... 10% import duty + 21% VAT+ up to 17% registration tax + €1,500 flat admin fee on a nominal value of c.€40k
So looks like it will need to be sold... how on earth do you value car that's had all the usual rust repaired and is mechanically very decent... but has 230k miles?
£9k?
Christ! Maybe a touch under £10k and see what bites you get?So looks like it will need to be sold... how on earth do you value car that's had all the usual rust repaired and is mechanically very decent... but has 230k miles?
£9k?
Fast Bug said:
Your car has been linked here. General opinion was there's a lack of detail on the advert for work that's been done. You're really light on what's been done other than a service, and you don't state what service has ben carried out. It's also due an MOT next month, so if it's not had brakes/suspension/whatever done in the last few years then people will assume it'll need doing. I'd stick a fresh ticket on and have a breakdown of what work was completed and when.
Also £15k might be a touch on the high side for a tip. It looks nice though and the miles are fairly low too
Thanks for this... I didn't put everything in as I (mistakenly) thought people would ask/call for more details..it's been a while since I've sold a car so looks like I need to put a little more effort in 😃Also £15k might be a touch on the high side for a tip. It looks nice though and the miles are fairly low too
I perhaps should have waited until MOT done had been done (which was done this week (no advisories) along with a service (filters, oil and CV boots) to a total of £650).
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