what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

[stuckmojo]

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... first 996.1 I see for sale at an OPC. And it's a tip.

Interesting

[stuckmojo]

Hippea said:

This has had a lot done to it

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403097...

reading the bills list, it looks like it's for sale for what it cost the owner over the last 18 months. Why sell at that point?

[Hippea]

stuckmojo said:

Hippea said:

This has had a lot done to it

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403097...

reading the bills list, it looks like it's for sale for what it cost the owner over the last 18 months. Why sell at that point?

Yeah the bill list is quite something

[ATM]

Hippea said:

stuckmojo said:

Hippea said:

This has had a lot done to it

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403097...

reading the bills list, it looks like it's for sale for what it cost the owner over the last 18 months. Why sell at that point?

Yeah the bill list is quite something

This car has 4 problems

Ok potentially not a show stopper but less than ideal for Me. But what's going on with the inlet manifold - I didn't even know this was a known weak point?

[Chris Stott]

I’ve never heard of inlet manifold problems.

Exhaust manifold… well that’s a whole different story.

Car looks good… needs a rear wiper delete though… I’d forgotten how ugly they are.

[ATM]

Chris Stott said:

I’ve never heard of inlet manifold problems.

Exhaust manifold… well that’s a whole different story.

Car looks good… needs a rear wiper delete though… I’d forgotten how ugly they are.

This is all we have to go off

And they look nice

[Chris Stott]

I think we also know that all the fancy looking stuff does very little, if anything, to improve performance.

[Fast Bug]

I hope they took the opportunity to port and Polish them whilst they were there

[Fink-Nottle]

Chris Stott said:

Speaking of values... looks like importing mine to Spain will be financially ruinous... 10% import duty + 21% VAT+ up to 17% registration tax + €1,500 flat admin fee on a nominal value of c.€40k

Are you absolutely sure there's no way around that?

I recently moved from non-EU Switzerland to EU Germany and brought my Cayman along. Lots of bureaucratic hoops needed jumping through but I paid exactly zilch on duties and VAT.

The salient point is to import your car as part of your personal effects. To get it that status, you need to have resided for X years in the country you're leaving, and you need to have bought the car there Y months before your departure.

It may be that the status of post-Brexit UK is different from non-EU Switzerland, but it might be worth looking into.

[Chris Stott]

Fink-Nottle said:

Are you absolutely sure there's no way around that?

I recently moved from non-EU Switzerland to EU Germany and brought my Cayman along. Lots of bureaucratic hoops needed jumping through but I paid exactly zilch on duties and VAT.

The salient point is to import your car as part of your personal effects. To get it that status, you need to have resided for X years in the country you're leaving, and you need to have bought the car there Y months before your departure.

It may be that the status of post-Brexit UK is different from non-EU Switzerland, but it might be worth looking into.

I moved here and took residency in 2021... and my wife isn't planning to move here permanently for another 3-5 years.

So moving the car as part of personal effects isn't an option.

[hmg]

stuckmojo said:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... first 996.1 I see for sale at an OPC. And it's a tip.

Interesting

Typical OPC lack of prep!! Rusty wheel nuts anyone..

[stuckmojo]

hmg said:

Typical OPC lack of prep!! Rusty wheel nuts anyone..

I just went to check my nuts and they're rusty too 😲

[boxaw]

boxaw said:

Fast Bug said:

Your car has been linked here. General opinion was there's a lack of detail on the advert for work that's been done. You're really light on what's been done other than a service, and you don't state what service has ben carried out. It's also due an MOT next month, so if it's not had brakes/suspension/whatever done in the last few years then people will assume it'll need doing. I'd stick a fresh ticket on and have a breakdown of what work was completed and when.

Also £15k might be a touch on the high side for a tip. It looks nice though and the miles are fairly low too

Thanks for this... I didn't put everything in as I (mistakenly) thought people would ask/call for more details..it's been a while since I've sold a car so looks like I need to put a little more effort in ??

I perhaps should have waited until MOT done had been done (which was done this week (no advisories) along with a service (filters, oil and CV boots) to a total of £650).

Following on from this, have added some more pictures to the ad and included most recent service details which include:

- September 2019 = £4500 service at Ninemeister including major service, new spark plugs, 4 x Michelin Sport tyres, front suspension top mounts, wishbones and drop links, new link & brake pipes.
- December 2020 = PPI inspection and service at Dave Griffiths Racing @76,465 miles (including borescoring inspection)
- March 2022 = 12k service at SCS Honiton in March 2022 (filters, oil etc.) @ 78,773 miles
- May 2023 = MOT (no advisories) in May 2023 @ 79,078 miles.
- April 2024 = 12k Service + New MOT (NO advisories) @ 82,076 miles (£600 at local garage in April 2024 (checks of suspension, wheel bearings, front and rear pads, underbody, diff levels and gearbox levels. New exhaust tail pipes, air filter, oil and oil filter, pollen filters and CV boots.).

Car has Covered 3000 miles in the last 12 months; with most of this being in the last 4 months as I've been using it as my daily (without any issues).Options include Litronic headlights, sunroof and a rear wiper! PCCM+ added at a cost of 2000gbp and very clean/straight bodywork.

I'm keen to sell the car so happy to accept reasonable offers but, at the same time, don't want to give it away (if that makes sense) so any more thoughts on price or anything to add to any listing (any advice/feedback appreciated)?

[shalmaneser]

boxaw said:

Fast Bug said:

Your car has been linked here. General opinion was there's a lack of detail on the advert for work that's been done. You're really light on what's been done other than a service, and you don't state what service has ben carried out. It's also due an MOT next month, so if it's not had brakes/suspension/whatever done in the last few years then people will assume it'll need doing. I'd stick a fresh ticket on and have a breakdown of what work was completed and when.

Also £15k might be a touch on the high side for a tip. It looks nice though and the miles are fairly low too

Thanks for this... I didn't put everything in as I (mistakenly) thought people would ask/call for more details..it's been a while since I've sold a car so looks like I need to put a little more effort in ??

I perhaps should have waited until MOT done had been done (which was done this week (no advisories) along with a service (filters, oil and CV boots) to a total of £650).

You need all the details you can add to the advert - there's only one chance to make a first impression! Most people are browsing on their phones/at work etc so won't be able to just make a call - on top of that lots of people just don't like making a phone call out of the blue. You've got a get on the shortlist they will call later and on the face of it it is a spartan advert.

Having said that it is fairly punchy for a tip, but you can drop the price but you can't go up once the negotiations start...

[jonny996]

It is ironic that the more expensive a car was new , the least expensive it is now.
A C4 cab with tip was mega money compared to a humble C2 Manual coupe in flat red with no sunroof.

We all know what they are worth now

[chappardababbar]

It's crunch time. I really want to go with 17s on a 10 inch tyre but the tyre choice is sooo limited.

In the 275/40... the only options are Toyo 888R which I've read a very noisy and expensive. The other options are Michelin PS2.

Anyone have any experience with either of these tyres. I must say the Toyos look sexy.

In 18inch wheels there are PLENTY of choices. Michelin PS5 availabe in the sizes I would want.

ATM said:

chappardababbar said:

CONCLUSION:

17 inch wheels, 7.5J front 9J rear, ET40 front and rear.

My plan is to try and find and RUF speedline style wheel but slightly updated for the 996.

Is there a wider rear option?

I was looking at some pics of one of those restomod 964 which had 17 inch wheels. The rears looked fat. I zoomed in on the pics and I think the rears wore 275 40 17 tyres. I'd guess that's probably a 10 inch rim. If you're thinking of 225 or even 235 fronts on 7.5 then the 275 rears may work better.

[PRO5T]

Why 17s? For comfort? Then why go for a super grippy track tyre?

They are loud too! I’ve ran thousands of miles on them but only because the car was designed around them for track.

[Chris Stott]

I had a few sets of PS2’s, between a lot of Conti SC and PS4’s (now on PS5’s on the rear.

PS2’s were the tyre 10 years ago… always felt good to me…. Maybe not as good now all round as the more modern tyres, but it’s not like they’ll be ditch finders.

[Fast Bug]

A 996 won't be Rolls Royce quiet at the best of times, so I don't think some tyre noise would be heard over the engine. PS2 are ok, I run them on the front of mine and I didn't notice a huge difference when I changed from PS2 to PS4 at the back (other than making my OCD twitch about non-matching tyres )

[Slippydiff]

In isolation the PS2's appear good, but compare them with a PS4S or PS5 and it's clear just how far the game has moved on, to the point the PS2 now seems a fairly harsh riding, noisy tyre that lacks compliancy.

I drove a 997 equipped with the older tyre a couple of weeks ago, and my 996 on PS4S, felt better in pretty much every way. The PS2 was undoubtedly "good in the day", but the SuperSport moved the game on massively, and the PS4S was further leap forward.