991.2 GT3 Deposit
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Porsche911R said:
nothing is, unless you have placed an order for a car, and your OPC has paid Porsche the deposit for the order !!!! why is this so hard lol
Not hard at all. Order was placed,,,, ""Porsche has your 10k"", how would one find out?..
Fyi,,, I own a 991GT3.1, but heard of factual events re ordering scenarios with the GT3..
Its a bit of a lottery...
throt said:
Not hard at all.
Order was placed,,,, ""Porsche has your 10k"", how would one find out?..
Fyi,,, I own a 991GT3.1, but heard of factual events re ordering scenarios with the GT3..
Its a bit of a lottery...
No lottery at all, you have either ordered a car or you have not !Order was placed,,,, ""Porsche has your 10k"", how would one find out?..
Fyi,,, I own a 991GT3.1, but heard of factual events re ordering scenarios with the GT3..
Its a bit of a lottery...
I think the people know if they have ordered a car or not lol.
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n17ves said:
Cheib said:
Regardless of all that...I've never read it in detail before but the contract is heavily skewed in Porsche's favour (which is what youd' expect)....e.g it's pretty explicit that the only time a deposit is refundable after delivery date has been notified is a "no fault" termination by the buyer. The notification of the delivery date locks the buyer in legally but triggers no extra obligation for Porsche or the OPC. Conversely they absolutely can cancel it for any number of reasons and there's nothing in that contract that even says if they cancel they have to refund the deposit!
If you follow the wording of that contract legally the only time you're definitely getting a car is when you've paid in full. Clearly that's not how the world works as it would be horrible for there business but that's the legal position. Supplier goes on strike? Car can be cancelled. Phone system goes down ? Car can be cancelled Car falls off the transporter ? Car can be cancelled.
Interesting..... the contract (Porsche headed paper) my OPC issues out doesn't contain any of these caveats.If you follow the wording of that contract legally the only time you're definitely getting a car is when you've paid in full. Clearly that's not how the world works as it would be horrible for there business but that's the legal position. Supplier goes on strike? Car can be cancelled. Phone system goes down ? Car can be cancelled Car falls off the transporter ? Car can be cancelled.
17.1 sets out the events that mean they can cancel but the contract is much looser than that from their perspective. And reading it properly again the contract I have is actually defines the seller as PCGB with the dealer group signing it as a trading name of PCGB.
No doubt the deposit and ordering system varies amongst the OPC
I was not asked for a deposit before my OPC had a confirmed allocation. Since then I have paid a deposit and been given, a six digit code, a spec freeze date and a Check point 8 date with expected delivery to OPC two to three weeks after Check Point 8.
So there is still time for it all to go pear shaped.
I was not asked for a deposit before my OPC had a confirmed allocation. Since then I have paid a deposit and been given, a six digit code, a spec freeze date and a Check point 8 date with expected delivery to OPC two to three weeks after Check Point 8.
So there is still time for it all to go pear shaped.
lowndes said:
No doubt the deposit and ordering system varies amongst the OPC
I was not asked for a deposit before my OPC had a confirmed allocation. Since then I have paid a deposit and been given, a six digit code, a spec freeze date and a Check point 8 date with expected delivery to OPC two to three weeks after Check Point 8.
So there is still time for it all to go pear shaped.
There you go Porsche911R,,,I was not asked for a deposit before my OPC had a confirmed allocation. Since then I have paid a deposit and been given, a six digit code, a spec freeze date and a Check point 8 date with expected delivery to OPC two to three weeks after Check Point 8.
So there is still time for it all to go pear shaped.
That, in the above quote, is what you call an ""ORDER"". lowndes is definitely getting a ride...hahahaha....
sidicks said:
£10k would be earning you less than £200 interest in a cash ISA.
If £10k is a lot of money to you, does this mean that you couldn't have afforded a car, even if you'd been offered one?
Reverse that round and the same applies to the dealer , assuming they place deposits in a separate account and aren't using the deposits to help cash flow ?If £10k is a lot of money to you, does this mean that you couldn't have afforded a car, even if you'd been offered one?
throt said:
There you go Porsche911R,,,
That, in the above quote, is what you call an ""ORDER"". lowndes is definitely getting a ride...hahahaha....
As I have said, I think people know when they have placed an order, all this other bullsThat, in the above quote, is what you call an ""ORDER"". lowndes is definitely getting a ride...hahahaha....
t from other posters is funny.But they won't report their OPC as they are £10k in and hoping for a car at some point.
Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 18th May 16:08
throt said:
Pear shape is not as bad as banana shape, buddy.. Banana shape and its no GT3 
Sorry to hear that. Friends who currently own GT cars and have had GT models previously have also missed out on an allocation this time round.It is an unusual business model where the manufacturer is content for the price/demand equilibrium to be achieved outside the primary market. They’ve done all the R&D so why not make more cars or if it is a capacity issue why not put the price up? Surely it can’t be just a marketing ploy. Outside the PH Rennlist bubble and the car journalists one wonders how much the Porsche market in general cares about the GT cars. I met some fellow Macan owners at an OPC workshop visit recently and the topic of GT car availability never cropped up once in conversation.
for somebody who is looking and can live with LHD - there is a mid June delivery available (actually a few, but this is the cheapest early delivery car I could see). Have not priced it up, but looks like it is an ok spec apart from PCCBs.
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=...
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=...
Buster73 said:
sidicks said:
£10k would be earning you less than £200 interest in a cash ISA.
If £10k is a lot of money to you, does this mean that you couldn't have afforded a car, even if you'd been offered one?
Reverse that round and the same applies to the dealer , assuming they place deposits in a separate account and aren't using the deposits to help cash flow ?If £10k is a lot of money to you, does this mean that you couldn't have afforded a car, even if you'd been offered one?
A poster has mentioned my OPC above ( or another GT thread ) taking 10k off him and then to find out he was not getting a car. Well they didn't take 10k from me and just told me that I am in the second run pot..
Its for sure though that a lot of the Gen1 drivers did not get a Gen2. It seems Porsche are trying to play it fairer , which I agree with tbh..
Its for sure though that a lot of the Gen1 drivers did not get a Gen2. It seems Porsche are trying to play it fairer , which I agree with tbh..
lowndes said:
Sorry to hear that. Friends who currently own GT cars and have had GT models previously have also missed out on an allocation this time round.
Definitely it appears to be the case that the higher % of GT3 owners were not in favour for the first Gen2 run. Second run, just maybe..throt said:
A poster has mentioned my OPC above ( or another GT thread ) taking 10k off him and then to find out he was not getting a car. Well they didn't take 10k from me and just told me that I am in the second run pot..
Its for sure though that a lot of the Gen1 drivers did not get a Gen2. It seems Porsche are trying to play it fairer , which I agree with tbh..
Maybe they will be further up the queue for an RS instead.Its for sure though that a lot of the Gen1 drivers did not get a Gen2. It seems Porsche are trying to play it fairer , which I agree with tbh..
The whole "you need to buy a few cars to be worthy of a CHANCE of GT3" stinks and maybe even illegal if they are taking £10k deposits on cars they KNOW the customer will never get!
If a deposit is asked for and placed then you should definitely get a car and if you miss out on a 17my car then you should be top of the 18my list!
I have a friend who is going down this exploitive road at the moment!
If a deposit is asked for and placed then you should definitely get a car and if you miss out on a 17my car then you should be top of the 18my list!
I have a friend who is going down this exploitive road at the moment!
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