340i M Performance Power and Sound Kit

340i M Performance Power and Sound Kit

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Roma101

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838 posts

147 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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Hi

Just had this fitted and although the exhaust has definitely been fitted (being obvious to see), I am having my doubts as to whether the re-map has been done properly. There is no noticeable difference in performance and the sport display dials have not changed their max numbers (the blurb says that as part of the re-map, the sports dials are updated to reflect the higher power and torque. Power is supposed to say 265kw (it says 240) and torque 500nm (it says 480).

The dealer is completely trustworthy, so I suspect error rather than swindlers. The car also had an iDrive update done at the same time. If this was done after the remap, perhaps that restored the sports dials to factory settings?

Does anyone else have this fitted and if so, please could you have a look at what your sport dials say?

Thanks

moffat

1,020 posts

225 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Roma101 said:
Hi

Just had this fitted and although the exhaust has definitely been fitted (being obvious to see), I am having my doubts as to whether the re-map has been done properly. There is no noticeable difference in performance and the sport display dials have not changed their max numbers (the blurb says that as part of the re-map, the sports dials are updated to reflect the higher power and torque. Power is supposed to say 265kw (it says 240) and torque 500nm (it says 480).

The dealer is completely trustworthy, so I suspect error rather than swindlers. The car also had an iDrive update done at the same time. If this was done after the remap, perhaps that restored the sports dials to factory settings?

Does anyone else have this fitted and if so, please could you have a look at what your sport dials say?

Thanks
It does sound ominous, but I am not sure the dials actually change?

Try asking on Bimmerpost - many more MPSSK users on there.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Best way is to measure it on a dyno before and after.

KPB1973

919 posts

99 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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I think the PPK comes with a new ECU rather than a traditional remap, so it should be possible to see if it has been installed with a wee bit of digging around.

Whether it has been properly configured, is another matter. The lack of max figures on the iDrive doesn't bode well though.

Perhaps it takes a few hundred miles for the ECU to adjust to its new parameters? That's certainly the case with piggyback solutions like the JB4. From memory, you had to do a few wide-open-throttle runs in 2nd gear to accelerate the process (no pun intended).


Roma101

Original Poster:

838 posts

147 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Thanks for the comments.

I have found photographic internet evidence that the max numbers change. Well, certainly the torque dial. The one in the photo I found read 560 Nm. BMW has also confirmed that they should change.

Yes, I have also read a few things that say you need a bit of time / an Italian tune-up for the car to adjust. Will have a go when I get a chance.

However, I have booked it in with the dealer for them to investigate.

Just a bit frustrating as it is not a cheap kit. The exhaust does sound good though.

chandrew

979 posts

209 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Mine reads 320 kW / 560 Nm.

I don't know about whether there was a noticeable difference as I got the kit fitted on delivery.

Leecavturbo

2 posts

81 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Did you get to the bottom of power upgrade woes?

sma

107 posts

135 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Anyone else also find that the RH exhaust pipe sticks out further than the left?

sma

107 posts

135 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Mine also reads 320 kW / 560 Nm.



Edited by sma on Monday 24th July 19:58

Leecavturbo

2 posts

81 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Mine has 400 on both

VerySideways

10,238 posts

272 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Leecavturbo said:
Mine has 400 on both
Old money thumbup

Roma101

Original Poster:

838 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Just to close this matter, the car went in and they "found" that they had not installed a bit of software. It was apparently then installed and the sports displays now read correctly (e.g. 560 NM). I noticed a little bit more shove at low speeds, but can't honestly say I have noticed a big overall difference. Worth it for the exhaust though.

Cheers.

335d

758 posts

118 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Roma101 said:
Just to close this matter, the car went in and they "found" that they had not installed a bit of software. It was apparently then installed and the sports displays now read correctly (e.g. 560 NM). I noticed a little bit more shove at low speeds, but can't honestly say I have noticed a big overall difference. Worth it for the exhaust though.

Cheers.
Others on Bimmerpost's F30 section have reported a very noticeable increase in power from the MPPSK on the 340i. There may be an element of placebo, to which some are more susceptible than others, but given the issue you have had with the power displays, I would be a little concerned that all your dealer have actually done on this last visit is enabled the modified power displays. So I would be tempted to test it.

While rolling road figures are often optimistic in my view (telling paying customers what they want to hear), I would be tempted to go along to one of the sessions where other 340is with MPPSK are being tested (arranged on the Bimmerpost forum) and see how your car compares. A few hp either way would be normal - but it would be pretty easy to see if they hadn't done the power part of the MPPSK.

Roma101

Original Poster:

838 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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335d said:
Roma101 said:
Just to close this matter, the car went in and they "found" that they had not installed a bit of software. It was apparently then installed and the sports displays now read correctly (e.g. 560 NM). I noticed a little bit more shove at low speeds, but can't honestly say I have noticed a big overall difference. Worth it for the exhaust though.

Cheers.
Others on Bimmerpost's F30 section have reported a very noticeable increase in power from the MPPSK on the 340i. There may be an element of placebo, to which some are more susceptible than others, but given the issue you have had with the power displays, I would be a little concerned that all your dealer have actually done on this last visit is enabled the modified power displays. So I would be tempted to test it.

While rolling road figures are often optimistic in my view (telling paying customers what they want to hear), I would be tempted to go along to one of the sessions where other 340is with MPPSK are being tested (arranged on the Bimmerpost forum) and see how your car compares. A few hp either way would be normal - but it would be pretty easy to see if they hadn't done the power part of the MPPSK.
Thanks for that. To be honest I haven't had a chance to really test it properly in safe conditions. I will be somewhere where I can do that this weekend though. Will go over to Bimmerfest to see if there are any upcoming dates. Alternatively, can anyone recommend a decent place in the SE of England?.

Roma101

Original Poster:

838 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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I should add that a short period before I had the kit installed, I sold my F80 M3 CP, which I was using more at the time. So coming from the M3 to the 340i, it is probably not that surprising that I didn't feel the 340i that fast (even with the kit). Will monitor it though.

sma

107 posts

135 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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sma said:
Anyone else also find that the RH exhaust pipe sticks out further than the left?
Anyone ? :-)

VerySideways

10,238 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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sma said:
sma said:
Anyone else also find that the RH exhaust pipe sticks out further than the left?
Anyone ? :-)
Can't you choose between chrome tips and carbon tips on these BMW M Performance exhausts?
In which case surely the tailpipe trim is adjustable?

Roma101

Original Poster:

838 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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sma said:
sma said:
Anyone else also find that the RH exhaust pipe sticks out further than the left?
Anyone ? :-)
Yes, mine does.

ROLFSSEN

96 posts

140 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Hi,

Slightly off-topic, but is the Performance Kit available for the M140i as well?

I asked my dealer when I purchased mine and they said "no", but I can't see why it wouldn't be...presumably they're mechanically the same.

Thanks,

Tim

chandrew

979 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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335d said:
Roma101 said:
Just to close this matter, the car went in and they "found" that they had not installed a bit of software. It was apparently then installed and the sports displays now read correctly (e.g. 560 NM). I noticed a little bit more shove at low speeds, but can't honestly say I have noticed a big overall difference. Worth it for the exhaust though.

Cheers.
Others on Bimmerpost's F30 section have reported a very noticeable increase in power from the MPPSK on the 340i. There may be an element of placebo, to which some are more susceptible than others, but given the issue you have had with the power displays, I would be a little concerned that all your dealer have actually done on this last visit is enabled the modified power displays. So I would be tempted to test it.

While rolling road figures are often optimistic in my view (telling paying customers what they want to hear), I would be tempted to go along to one of the sessions where other 340is with MPPSK are being tested (arranged on the Bimmerpost forum) and see how your car compares. A few hp either way would be normal - but it would be pretty easy to see if they hadn't done the power part of the MPPSK.
When I went to test drive the car I drove a 330 Touring, which I didn't get on with. They then gave me the keys to a 4 door 340 demonstrator with the MPPK. Given the price difference of the kit I then asked if they had another 340 demonstrator without the kit - it was a cabriolet.

There was a noticeable difference in the two 340s, not just in acceleration feel but more importantly responsiveness to throttle inputs. It was this, and lobbying from my two children who liked the noise that justified the extra cost. Whether it was to do with the MPPK or weight difference between a cabriolet & saloon I don't know.

The garage had 3 new 340 Tourings in stock so I took one of those but added the MPPK. I really had wanted to order an Alpina B3s but given other commitments decided that the 340 would show to my wife & FD a commitment to cost constraint - there were no discounts on a new Alpina.

Haven't regretted the choice of MPPK or not but next time it will be an Alpina.