non transferable reg number

[philip neill]

I have a 1949 motorbike with great reg. It is original to bike. Because of old buff book had to go through owners club to get new v5. V5 says non transferable. Surely this is not correct. I would like to sell bike and keep reg on my car. Any thoughts?

[Pistonheader101]

Is it q plated?

[philip neill]

No, its the original reg number issued in 1949, year of bike

[357RS]

philip neill said:

I have a 1949 motorbike with great reg. It is original to bike. Because of old buff book had to go through owners club to get new v5. V5 says non transferable. Surely this is not correct. I would like to sell bike and keep reg on my car. Any thoughts?

If you keep the reg, you will get a new (free) dateless plate for the motorbike. You could then repeat that process again and again, selling the removed dateless plate each time.

Marking the reg as non transferable stops people doing this.

[PAUL500]

My grandad had a tractor with a great reg also from 1949, which he gave me along with the buff reg doc, exactly the same story, they will issue a new style V5 but the reg stays with the tractor for ever , the reason is given above.

You wont be transferring that number I am afraid.

[357RS]

Anyway, the bike will be worth more when you sell it with its original reg number.

[cuprabob]

Sadly some plates are not transferable otherwise there would be no need for the tick box on the V5.

[Chiswickboy]

Where is this "tick box" on the V5C? I can't see one on mine and I am pretty sure the registration mark is the original with no mention of being non transferrable.

Are the rules different for cars as opposed to bikes and tractors?

[Stick Legs]

I had an Omega Elite with a non-transferable plate.
V404FFV

No idea why it was non transferable. I guessed it may have been because it looked a bit like an 04 plate?

[philip neill]

Thanks all for replys, very informative group out there. Just have to accept dvla rules.

[cuprabob]

philip neill said:

Thanks all for replys, very informative group out there. Just have to accept dvla rules.

That is stunning...

[Cold]

Stick Legs said:

I had an Omega Elite with a non-transferable plate.
V404FFV

No idea why it was non transferable. I guessed it may have been because it looked a bit like an 04 plate?

Most likely that car had a cherished plate or two allocated to it and removed from it throughout its life. In these cases the "normal" plate is made non-transferable (although you can still plop a private plate on) so that the car always returns to the same plate, thus not using up the finite amount of "normal" age related plates.

[anonymous-user]

Cold said:

Stick Legs said:

I had an Omega Elite with a non-transferable plate.
V404FFV

No idea why it was non transferable. I guessed it may have been because it looked a bit like an 04 plate?

Most likely that car had a cherished plate or two allocated to it and removed from it throughout its life. In these cases the "normal" plate is made non-transferable (although you can still plop a private plate on) so that the car always returns to the same plate, thus not using up the finite amount of "normal" age related plates.

That Omega was first registered as N7 CSK. DVLA issued it V404 FFV in 2003

[anonymous-user]

Now the original plate of the Omega, N7 CSK, is on a 2014 Lexus IS 300h Premier. Changed Nov 2015 to N7 CSK from WU64 KSN when it changed hands

[sim16v]

philip neill said:

Thanks all for replys, very informative group out there. Just have to accept dvla rules.

Very nice bike!

So what was the plate?

There are only a couple of main reasons for being non transferable.

The first is where the car/bike only had the original buff log book.

Back in the '80s when the system was being computerised, you'd send in your old buff log book and get a new V5, with a transferable number.

There was a deadline for this, so now you can apply for a new V5, but DVLA like to keep the original plates with the original vehicles.

The other reason was if the car had another cherished number and it was then removed.

As mentioned, the car would go back on it's original number, or have another age appropriate plate allocated, and this would be non transferable.

So if you had XXX1 on your car and decided to put X1 on without first putting XXX1 on retention, when you removed X1, the car would go back to XXX1, but this would be non transferable!

There is also the scenario where DVLA ticked the wrong box, and the V5 would turn up with the plate being non transferable!

This number is non transferable, so instead of being worth a lot of money, it only makes the Moggy a little bit more valuable than a normal one.




Also, with agricultural vehicles, they didn't originally need a MOT and they were a different taxation class to cars, so you weren't able to transfer from a tractor to a car.