991 GTS or 991 Turbo S
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Hi Guys, I'm the process of selling my PTS 991 GT3, debating what to buy next so the two cars are either a 2017 GTS or a 2017 Turbo S, drove a Turbo S the other week for an hour, not really ideally long enough, but thought it was a very accomplished car, but when Spec'd to my liking it's like £155k! So then you have a New GTS, less power but it does apeal to me, but still, Spec' it's £125k, I don't really keep my car for more than a year, depreciation aside, I'm wondering which would be better in the real world....
It's not a daily, just a weekend or midweek trackday car, any opinions would be greatly appreciated guys.
It's not a daily, just a weekend or midweek trackday car, any opinions would be greatly appreciated guys.
Guys, understand where your coming from, however i need to strike up a buying history with Porsche.. (always paid overs) so i dont really have an option, but to pursue the GTS or Turbo route to still give me the GT3 buzz in the short term until i am (allowed to buy the halo cars!!!) Its bad i know, so going down that avenue at present 
No, I would like to buy a .2 GT3, so basically to achieve that there saying I need to start a buying history, be it a 911 or another model, on the flip side, I may just aswell buy a Gen2 GT3 from a flipper! As then initial outlay will probably work out the same if I bought the vanilla Porsches from the dealers which I'd loose in depreciation.... anyone agree ??
What allocation are they saying as must be at least 2nd if you are lucky?
If they can guarantee you a car and you can get a physical order or a written letter from the DP stating that you have one of their allocated cars then I would buy a GTS if that is what is required but would want a definite answer as you don't want the salesman to feed you crap and after buying the GTS they say " Sorry sir you didn't qualify for a GT3".
What is the lead time of a GTS as probably won't be far off the GT3?
If you get an allocation then you worse case you loose £30k or so on the GTS but will be paying at least £50k over on a GT3 but may get one sooner as will have a chance of getting one of the first ones.
Apparently no pts either.
If they can guarantee you a car and you can get a physical order or a written letter from the DP stating that you have one of their allocated cars then I would buy a GTS if that is what is required but would want a definite answer as you don't want the salesman to feed you crap and after buying the GTS they say " Sorry sir you didn't qualify for a GT3".
What is the lead time of a GTS as probably won't be far off the GT3?
If you get an allocation then you worse case you loose £30k or so on the GTS but will be paying at least £50k over on a GT3 but may get one sooner as will have a chance of getting one of the first ones.
Apparently no pts either.
cormeist said:
Guys, understand where your coming from, however i need to strike up a buying history with Porsche.. (always paid overs) so i dont really have an option, but to pursue the GTS or Turbo route to still give me the GT3 buzz in the short term until i am (allowed to buy the halo cars!!!) Its bad i know, so going down that avenue at present
+1, had a .1 GT3, then a .2 Turbo S, also have a .2GTS (wife's'car), neither of them engage as much as the .1 GT3 IMO, trust me, you will miss it!cormeist said:
Guys, understand where your coming from, however i need to strike up a buying history with Porsche.. (always paid overs) so i dont really have an option, but to pursue the GTS or Turbo route to still give me the GT3 buzz in the short term until i am (allowed to buy the halo cars!!!) Its bad i know, so going down that avenue at present
+1, had a .1 GT3, then a .2 Turbo S, also have a .2GTS (wife's'car), neither of them engage as much as the .1 GT3 IMO, trust me, you will miss it!Turbo S for daily, weekend and trackday.
GTS, especially in 4WD, is just a relatively slower version of the above.
If you are only going to keep it for 12 months, and you option it up, you are going to lose a lot - more so on the Turbo S.
Your choice is down to how deep are your pockets and how fast do you want to go?
IMHO if you are just after most of the 911 experience, after a GT3, the GTS ticks all the boxes and is still f
king fast!
GTS, especially in 4WD, is just a relatively slower version of the above.
If you are only going to keep it for 12 months, and you option it up, you are going to lose a lot - more so on the Turbo S.
Your choice is down to how deep are your pockets and how fast do you want to go?
IMHO if you are just after most of the 911 experience, after a GT3, the GTS ticks all the boxes and is still f
king fast!They apparently have there next Allocation come December time, my salesman is up front with me and said I may not get one in the next batch, my heart says just walk away from the brand, but IF there's a chance my head is saying stay with the process.
So what your saying is, basically don't Spec up a GTS as it'll loose a fair wedge... that's understandable tbh, it's all very tiring to say the least, but like the lottery you gotta be in it to win it!!
So what your saying is, basically don't Spec up a GTS as it'll loose a fair wedge... that's understandable tbh, it's all very tiring to say the least, but like the lottery you gotta be in it to win it!!
kev.RS said:
What allocation are they saying as must be at least 2nd if you are lucky?
If they can guarantee you a car and you can get a physical order or a written letter from the DP stating that you have one of their allocated cars then I would buy a GTS if that is what is required but would want a definite answer as you don't want the salesman to feed you crap and after buying the GTS they say " Sorry sir you didn't qualify for a GT3".
What is the lead time of a GTS as probably won't be far off the GT3?
If you get an allocation then you worse case you loose £30k or so on the GTS but will be paying at least £50k over on a GT3 but may get one sooner as will have a chance of getting one of the first ones.
Apparently no pts either.
If they can guarantee you a car and you can get a physical order or a written letter from the DP stating that you have one of their allocated cars then I would buy a GTS if that is what is required but would want a definite answer as you don't want the salesman to feed you crap and after buying the GTS they say " Sorry sir you didn't qualify for a GT3".
What is the lead time of a GTS as probably won't be far off the GT3?
If you get an allocation then you worse case you loose £30k or so on the GTS but will be paying at least £50k over on a GT3 but may get one sooner as will have a chance of getting one of the first ones.
Apparently no pts either.
cormeist said:
With the money you will loose I was meaning that a £30k ish loss in the stop gap GTS would be worth it if you were to get a definite car as you would be paying at least a £50k premium over list to get an early one that might not be the spec you want.
It does sound a bit of a gamble to order the GTS by what the salesman is saying as you could just end up with no .2 GT3 and a GTS sat there meaning if you want a .2 then you will have to pay big overs on one and this costing you £80k at best for the fun/pain.
Now Porsche are giving a 10 year warranty on your .1 engine ( according to rennlist) and yours being a pts colour ( no pts apparently on .2) it will help the prices of the .1.
Do you plan to keep the .1 or will the .2 be its replacement?
cormeist said:
No, I would like to buy a .2 GT3, so basically to achieve that there saying I need to start a buying history, be it a 911 or another model, on the flip side, I may just aswell buy a Gen2 GT3 from a flipper! As then initial outlay will probably work out the same if I bought the vanilla Porsches from the dealers which I'd loose in depreciation.... anyone agree ??
I think you're mad! Particularly now your car's engine has a 10-year warranty!What do you think you'll get from the 991.2 GT3 than you don't get from the 991.1 GT3?
I would keep the car you have and when you get bored of it, pay whatever market price is for the car you want next. Life is too short to drive cars you don't really want, esp. if you don't even have a guarantee that the one you want will materialize.
Also, I am not sure the 991.1 to 991.2 GT3 improvements will seem like a huge difference - well apart from a manual that is - but usually the cars only improve incrementally ... quite possibly not worth the hassle it seems to be
Also, I am not sure the 991.1 to 991.2 GT3 improvements will seem like a huge difference - well apart from a manual that is - but usually the cars only improve incrementally ... quite possibly not worth the hassle it seems to be
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