What do you love about the 996?
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Discombobulate said:
chappardababbar said:
Everything has been covered but I still feel the need to say my bit. Why is that?
There are a few levels here....
Level 1: I believe the 911 is a timeless and iconic piece of engineering and design. The format is really interesting and makes the car unique and special relative to most other cars on the road. It's exceptionally well packaged, great usability, great visibility.
Level 2: I believe the 996 is peak 911, for my needs. Everyone has a different (classic vs usable vs feels vs looks) balance that they want. There is no right answer, but for me pre-996 lacks the galvanised body that helps me sleep better at night, and post 996 loses sound, feel, deftness, and style. 996 = goldilocks 911.
Level 3: I believe the base 911, IS the 911. Therefore the base 996 is the best 911, and by extension, one of the best cars ever made. The 911 is its true form, is a useable, daily-able, practical, relatively achievable, fun, sports car.
Level 4, and this is where I'm going to lose you if I haven't already. For me the base 996 teaches me something about life. The hardest part about owning a carrera, is yearning for both GT3 and Turbo versions of the car. It's actually an exercise in self awareness, confidence, and control. In being true to what I believe and living it. I love that about it. I have to constantly remind myself what it is, and what it isn't and not try to change it by giving in to my constantly changing wants and needs.
Level 5: For me to really bond with a car, it needs to have a heart. There is a coldness about the GT3, and a brutishness about the the Turbo. The carrera is pure charm, and heart, and personality. Eager to please, fun, easy going, and elegant.
I am currently a little bit obsessed by the 996. I have a base carrera and I'm quite in love with it. One day I'd love to add a Turbo, and a GT3. When I imagine that scenario in my mind, I always walk towards the carrera first, and it's a good feeling.
Excuse my pedantry but galvanised bodies pre-dated the 996 by two decades There are a few levels here....
Level 1: I believe the 911 is a timeless and iconic piece of engineering and design. The format is really interesting and makes the car unique and special relative to most other cars on the road. It's exceptionally well packaged, great usability, great visibility.
Level 2: I believe the 996 is peak 911, for my needs. Everyone has a different (classic vs usable vs feels vs looks) balance that they want. There is no right answer, but for me pre-996 lacks the galvanised body that helps me sleep better at night, and post 996 loses sound, feel, deftness, and style. 996 = goldilocks 911.
Level 3: I believe the base 911, IS the 911. Therefore the base 996 is the best 911, and by extension, one of the best cars ever made. The 911 is its true form, is a useable, daily-able, practical, relatively achievable, fun, sports car.
Level 4, and this is where I'm going to lose you if I haven't already. For me the base 996 teaches me something about life. The hardest part about owning a carrera, is yearning for both GT3 and Turbo versions of the car. It's actually an exercise in self awareness, confidence, and control. In being true to what I believe and living it. I love that about it. I have to constantly remind myself what it is, and what it isn't and not try to change it by giving in to my constantly changing wants and needs.
Level 5: For me to really bond with a car, it needs to have a heart. There is a coldness about the GT3, and a brutishness about the the Turbo. The carrera is pure charm, and heart, and personality. Eager to please, fun, easy going, and elegant.
I am currently a little bit obsessed by the 996. I have a base carrera and I'm quite in love with it. One day I'd love to add a Turbo, and a GT3. When I imagine that scenario in my mind, I always walk towards the carrera first, and it's a good feeling.
Sadly it doesn't stop the 996, or any other 911, rusting.
Body Galvanizing in Porsche 911
Thyssen steel = steel with Zinc layers on both sides; thickness of the Zinc layers varied from 10 um to 20 um, depending on exposure conditions (Frere, p. 201)
1970 – Galvanized steel (not Thyssen type) used in floor pan and wheel arches (Bob White in Pano V: 142); the “entire platform, including the floor, the longitudinal members, the wheel arches and the seat pans were galvanized.” (Boschen & Barth, p. 124)
1971 models – had galvanized steel in areas particularly exposed to rust (Frere, p. 201)
1972-1973 – Thyssen steel use began (Bob White in Pano V: 142)
1973 – Thyssen steel: rocker panels, inner rocker panels, floor pans, & some other parts (Chuck Stoddard in Pano V: 142)
1975 – Thyssen steel: entire body treated (Bob White & Chuck Stoddard {began in Feb. ’75 production for US cars; earlier for Euro cars – had trouble with paint} in Pano V: 142, 192)
1976 models – had Thyssen steel in entire body except roof (Frere, p. 201)
1977 models – on – had Thyssen steel in entire body (Frere, p. 201); an “important step forward was the use of zinc-coated sheet steel for the manufacture of the entire body structure (except for the coupe’s roof on early production cars). Coated on both sides, this made the structure virtually immune against the formation of rust….” (Boschen & Barth, p. 143)
Exactly they are copies by a company called velouch or similar I believe 19 inch not sure if it sits correct! I may well get the 18 split rims that were the original figment refurbed with new tyres, the car is beautiful with a new engine fitted in 2005 by Porsche! D chunked! One previous owner full maim dealer history! Yes it a tiptronic and was 12K should I be worried about the IMS ? Yes spoiler raised for polishing
37 grand
Tip
Some prices are getting a bit punchy
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109217...
Tip
Some prices are getting a bit punchy
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109217...
I have had my C2 Manual 1998 car, with 137k miles on it for a little over two months now. It is my first 911 of any kind and was bought at a sensible price, to enjoy. Went to see Paul Weller in concert last night in Bath - fantastic gig. The venue is about 90 miles from my home so I thought I would drive there & back. The car made the journey seem effortless, especially on the return home when the traffic was lighter. Over country roads I find the ability to seem relaxed and most comfortable (on M030 suspension) between 50 and 75 mph astounding. What is normally a bit of a jiggly ride and a slightly grumpy feel with a stiff clutch and a distaste for commuting generally, comes both alive and at the same time smooth and fuss free when getting a wiggle on. I think the full beam headlamps are as good as I have ever used (halogens), good enough for fairly quick driving, however i am sure that serious autobahn work might require something more powerful. The precision of the steering is other worldly and the way it sort of helps you to get into bends, rather than being indifferent or unhelpful is again, a new sensation. Probably the only other well sorted handling car I can give props to was a Peugeot 306 I had many years ago - really keen and alert and wanted to get a move on, especially on the twisties. I got back at 1am, thrilled and wondering why I hadn't got it sooner.. I love the car clean, I also think it looks great when dirty!
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swilkins999 said:
I have had my C2 Manual 1998 car, with 137k miles on it for a little over two months now. It is my first 911 of any kind and was bought at a sensible price, to enjoy. Went to see Paul Weller in concert last night in Bath - fantastic gig. The venue is about 90 miles from my home so I thought I would drive there & back. The car made the journey seem effortless, especially on the return home when the traffic was lighter. Over country roads I find the ability to seem relaxed and most comfortable (on M030 suspension) between 50 and 75 mph astounding. What is normally a bit of a jiggly ride and a slightly grumpy feel with a stiff clutch and a distaste for commuting generally, comes both alive and at the same time smooth and fuss free when getting a wiggle on. I think the full beam headlamps are as good as I have ever used (halogens), good enough for fairly quick driving, however i am sure that serious autobahn work might require something more powerful. The precision of the steering is other worldly and the way it sort of helps you to get into bends, rather than being indifferent or unhelpful is again, a new sensation. Probably the only other well sorted handling car I can give props to was a Peugeot 306 I had many years ago - really keen and alert and wanted to get a move on, especially on the twisties. I got back at 1am, thrilled and wondering why I hadn't got it sooner.. I love the car clean, I also think it looks great when dirty!
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You must have driven cars with seriously useless lights then, even with upgraded bulbs 996 lights are bloody hopeless!.
Fast Bug said:
Thanks for that, not too bad then. Looks like an expensive service coming up in a few months as I'm pretty sure the clutch is on its way out as well 
They do seem able to generate a pretty frightening bill with ease. I’m staring at a £7k estimate at the moment, that’ll mean in the last 18months I’ve spent more on it than it cost me to buy :/Fast Bug said:
Is the y cable an expensive job? Mines starting to get a bit slow to crank over, I think that's one of the symptoms of the cable being on its way out?
If the engine is hot and it does not want to crank over and start then that's definitely a sign of the "Y" cable on it's way out. The cable itself is not too expensive, the cost is in the labour. I took the option of changing the starter motor at the same time which didn't incur any extra labour cost as it's the same work more or less. If you are handy with spanners it's a job you could do yourself.Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff