What do you love about the 996?

What do you love about the 996?

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HughG

3,548 posts

241 months

Friday 19th November 2021
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jonny996 said:
What the hell are you getting done?
- removing stuck spark plug no.1
- gearbox rebuild (all new bearings on both input & output shafts, diff & selector shafts, new syncro on 1st/2nd hub)
- drill out and replace all manifold bolts
- new exhaust manifolds
- fit supplied oil cooler
- fit supplied Y cable

Gearbox is the big one and much more extensive than expected.

If I wasn't planning to keep the car long term it could have been a fair bit less, there about £1400 of parts in the gearbox that weren't absolutely necessary (the syncros and selector bearings), and I could have just replaced the 1 snapped manifold bolt which might have done the job for another year.

ATM

18,293 posts

219 months

Friday 19th November 2021
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HughG said:
jonny996 said:
What the hell are you getting done?
- removing stuck spark plug no.1
- gearbox rebuild (all new bearings on both input & output shafts, diff & selector shafts, new syncro on 1st/2nd hub)
- drill out and replace all manifold bolts
- new exhaust manifolds
- fit supplied oil cooler
- fit supplied Y cable

Gearbox is the big one and much more extensive than expected.

If I wasn't planning to keep the car long term it could have been a fair bit less, there about £1400 of parts in the gearbox that weren't absolutely necessary (the syncros and selector bearings), and I could have just replaced the 1 snapped manifold bolt which might have done the job for another year.
One of the lads in the early 996 thread got a local gearbox specialist to rebuild his and they ddin't charge any extra Porsche tax. He had to remove the box himself and take it to them. Thats the bit I imagine you might find challenging as would I. But you are allowed to ask your specialist to deliver the box to a business of your choosing for a rebuild. Surely the Porsche specialist you are using are just farming this work out to someone else anyway.

My gearbox self destructed and it was more economical to replace with another used box. I couldn't find one in the UK for less than 3 grand so I sourced one from Germania. Last time I checked on eBay UK there were a couple for sale for around £1500. Typical right.

But I guess your rebuild is already under way so this is all irrelevant?

HughG

3,548 posts

241 months

Friday 19th November 2021
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ATM said:
HughG said:
jonny996 said:
What the hell are you getting done?
- removing stuck spark plug no.1
- gearbox rebuild (all new bearings on both input & output shafts, diff & selector shafts, new syncro on 1st/2nd hub)
- drill out and replace all manifold bolts
- new exhaust manifolds
- fit supplied oil cooler
- fit supplied Y cable

Gearbox is the big one and much more extensive than expected.

If I wasn't planning to keep the car long term it could have been a fair bit less, there about £1400 of parts in the gearbox that weren't absolutely necessary (the syncros and selector bearings), and I could have just replaced the 1 snapped manifold bolt which might have done the job for another year.
One of the lads in the early 996 thread got a local gearbox specialist to rebuild his and they ddin't charge any extra Porsche tax. He had to remove the box himself and take it to them. Thats the bit I imagine you might find challenging as would I. But you are allowed to ask your specialist to deliver the box to a business of your choosing for a rebuild. Surely the Porsche specialist you are using are just farming this work out to someone else anyway.

My gearbox self destructed and it was more economical to replace with another used box. I couldn't find one in the UK for less than 3 grand so I sourced one from Germania. Last time I checked on eBay UK there were a couple for sale for around £1500. Typical right.

But I guess your rebuild is already under way so this is all irrelevant?
Yes it was shalmanesa (I’ve probably spelt that wrong). I had been planning to do the same, but between work and family commitments haven’t got the time to do such things myself atm.

I had been hoping to have a garden office/store built this year to let me get the car in the garage which would mean I can dip in and out of car fettling as required. There are two problems with that, the cost of them has gone crazy, and I’ve spent that money on the car.

There is currently (well there was yesterday) a used box on eBay for £1500. I’ve already committed to £1600 of gearbox in/out and investigation work, so at this point my options are:
- spend £3100 and have an unknown gearbox in the car
- spend £4800 and have my gearbox with known good gears, and all new bearings and the vulnerable synchro replaced.
That’s a fairly easy choice.

Filibuster

3,157 posts

215 months

Friday 19th November 2021
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Fast Bug said:
Is the y cable an expensive job? Mines starting to get a bit slow to crank over, I think that's one of the symptoms of the cable being on its way out?
My understanding is, that when your car cranks slowly when hot, it most probably is the y-cable. When the same occurs from cold, more likely to be the starter or a weak battery.

My 3.6 997 is booked to replace y cable and starter in 10 days.
Starter is a Bosch OEM one bought from ebay €200 and y cable from opc for €110.

My spanner monkey has never done the job, but PFF (german Porsche forum) claims about 1.5-2 hours of labour for a manual one.
Tips are apparently more works since they require not only the TB, but the whole intake plenum to be pushed out of the way. According to the handbook this requires the engine to be lowered.

Happy to report after it has been done!

ATM

18,293 posts

219 months

Friday 19th November 2021
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HughG said:
ATM said:
HughG said:
jonny996 said:
What the hell are you getting done?
- removing stuck spark plug no.1
- gearbox rebuild (all new bearings on both input & output shafts, diff & selector shafts, new syncro on 1st/2nd hub)
- drill out and replace all manifold bolts
- new exhaust manifolds
- fit supplied oil cooler
- fit supplied Y cable

Gearbox is the big one and much more extensive than expected.

If I wasn't planning to keep the car long term it could have been a fair bit less, there about £1400 of parts in the gearbox that weren't absolutely necessary (the syncros and selector bearings), and I could have just replaced the 1 snapped manifold bolt which might have done the job for another year.
One of the lads in the early 996 thread got a local gearbox specialist to rebuild his and they ddin't charge any extra Porsche tax. He had to remove the box himself and take it to them. Thats the bit I imagine you might find challenging as would I. But you are allowed to ask your specialist to deliver the box to a business of your choosing for a rebuild. Surely the Porsche specialist you are using are just farming this work out to someone else anyway.

My gearbox self destructed and it was more economical to replace with another used box. I couldn't find one in the UK for less than 3 grand so I sourced one from Germania. Last time I checked on eBay UK there were a couple for sale for around £1500. Typical right.

But I guess your rebuild is already under way so this is all irrelevant?
Yes it was shalmanesa (I’ve probably spelt that wrong). I had been planning to do the same, but between work and family commitments haven’t got the time to do such things myself atm.

I had been hoping to have a garden office/store built this year to let me get the car in the garage which would mean I can dip in and out of car fettling as required. There are two problems with that, the cost of them has gone crazy, and I’ve spent that money on the car.

There is currently (well there was yesterday) a used box on eBay for £1500. I’ve already committed to £1600 of gearbox in/out and investigation work, so at this point my options are:
- spend £3100 and have an unknown gearbox in the car
- spend £4800 and have my gearbox with known good gears, and all new bearings and the vulnerable synchro replaced.
That’s a fairly easy choice.
The 2nd gear thing has always worried me. I generally just use 1st and 3rd when pottering around especially when it is cold.

I believe the 2nd gear on the 997 had some stronger parts - no idea why. Not sure if they are interchangeable but it might be worth investigating if they can be fitted to yours.

HughG

3,548 posts

241 months

Friday 19th November 2021
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ATM said:
The 2nd gear thing has always worried me. I generally just use 1st and 3rd when pottering around especially when it is cold.

I believe the 2nd gear on the 997 had some stronger parts - no idea why. Not sure if they are interchangeable but it might be worth investigating if they can be fitted to yours.
The way Precision explained it, the problem is people forcing it into second which wears the syncro rapidly and grinds the teeth on the baulk rings that lock the gear to the output shaft. 2nd gear is particularly prone to problems because it is a straight pull back change which is the fastest shift, and 1st-2nd has the biggest rev drop so the syncros have more work to do, if the shift is too fast the syncros haven't matched the revs before the gear is engaged.

So gentle shifts into second shouldnt cause a problem.


ATM

18,293 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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Hartech 3.9 conversion
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£33,495


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ATM

18,293 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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The purple car is back

59,500 miles
Fuchs
Resprayed Violet Chromaflair Metallic

£29,795

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211141...






nebpor

3,753 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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ATM said:
The purple car is back
Resprayed Violet Chromaflair Metallic
By the look of the bumper and the sills behind the wheels, it needs another respray - bodywork looks terrible given the price they are asking