The 997 Appreciation Thread
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I have been considering new wheels. Just waiting to wear my tyres out on the current rims.
Came across these the other day.. thoughts?
I’m not sure about the offsets though. The factory rims are fronts - 19” x 8” x 57. rears - 19” x 11” x 67
Not sure if the rears would stick out more or less
Don’t like using spacers.
Came across these the other day.. thoughts?
I’m not sure about the offsets though. The factory rims are fronts - 19” x 8” x 57. rears - 19” x 11” x 67
Not sure if the rears would stick out more or less
Don’t like using spacers.
AyBee said:
Mariosbt said:
I think that is a great way to have a fantastic 997. I have been looking myself for a ‘project car’. Should you be able to buy one for 10 - 15K then take it to Hartech, you will have a good 911 for the right money. It goes without saying you will also have coolant pipes, brake lines etc. to attend to… but will end up with a great car with a ‘better than factory’ engine.
I recently bid on this. It is still on there.
3.6 so you'd only be able to get to 3.9 with Hartech, not 4.1 sadly. I've also been on the look out for one with a knackered engine for a project - missed out on one that went for about 13k and that's the cheapest I've seen. That Sterling Cars place is weird - they buy from BCA, don't reply to ebay messages and then their 911s all go for ridiculous money, even when they have engine lights on the dashboard and 10 litres of Mobil's finest, opened, in the frunk I recently bid on this. It is still on there.
ETA: If you want a laugh, it's here - sold for 16.9k, then went back on as "Exclusively for trade" without the engine warning light photo and the frunk with the oil in it and sold for 15.6k...mad!!
Edited by AyBee on Thursday 26th May 14:18
RM said:
AyBee said:
Mariosbt said:
I think that is a great way to have a fantastic 997. I have been looking myself for a ‘project car’. Should you be able to buy one for 10 - 15K then take it to Hartech, you will have a good 911 for the right money. It goes without saying you will also have coolant pipes, brake lines etc. to attend to… but will end up with a great car with a ‘better than factory’ engine.
I recently bid on this. It is still on there.
3.6 so you'd only be able to get to 3.9 with Hartech, not 4.1 sadly. I've also been on the look out for one with a knackered engine for a project - missed out on one that went for about 13k and that's the cheapest I've seen. That Sterling Cars place is weird - they buy from BCA, don't reply to ebay messages and then their 911s all go for ridiculous money, even when they have engine lights on the dashboard and 10 litres of Mobil's finest, opened, in the frunk I recently bid on this. It is still on there.
ETA: If you want a laugh, it's here - sold for 16.9k, then went back on as "Exclusively for trade" without the engine warning light photo and the frunk with the oil in it and sold for 15.6k...mad!!
Edited by AyBee on Thursday 26th May 14:18
ks that would have been perfect!anonymous said:
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Hexagon Classics have sold a few manuals in the mid £80's over the year. This one sold for, inc commission, £76K or thereabouts
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-9...
and is now with a dealer for 85K
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205225...
Manuals command a good £10K+ (maybe even £15K) over PDK for the GTS.
Considering that one plus this one
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202102...
are up-to 4 x the mileage of the one at £95K then £95K it seems a fair price.
anonymous said:
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yep its the only 911 that could tempt me from the CR but then again always wonder if it really is that much of a leap experience wise -vs- the leap in costs, from the CR.Thinking about it, I might test drive one of the Hex ones to find out.
isn't like the front half of the CR pretty much the 997, give or take, so it might feel like a lot of money for no great gain and a bit groundhog day cabin wise.
julian987R said:
yep its the only 911 that could tempt me from the CR but then again always wonder if it really is that much of a leap experience wise -vs- the leap in costs, from the CR.
Thinking about it, I might test drive one of the Hex ones to find out.
isn't like the front half of the CR pretty much the 997, give or take, so it might feel like a lot of money for no great gain and a bit groundhog day cabin wise.
A 997 should feel very different to a Cayman. Have you driven any 996 or 997 cars?Thinking about it, I might test drive one of the Hex ones to find out.
isn't like the front half of the CR pretty much the 997, give or take, so it might feel like a lot of money for no great gain and a bit groundhog day cabin wise.
You can't move the engine from the middle of the car to the back and it not feel very different.
Most 997 will have PASM and it will feel soft in soft mode and then a bit too hard in Sport. Especially when compared to your CR with a firmer passive setup. I'm assuming the GTS uses the same PASM as the standard cars. If I was in the market for a 997 I'd go for one without PASM but with the -20 mm sport suspension setup. Those cars are rare.
ATM said:
A 997 should feel very different to a Cayman. Have you driven any 996 or 997 cars?
You can't move the engine from the middle of the car to the back and it not feel very different.
Most 997 will have PASM and it will feel soft in soft mode and then a bit too hard in Sport. Especially when compared to your CR with a firmer passive setup. I'm assuming the GTS uses the same PASM as the standard cars. If I was in the market for a 997 I'd go for one without PASM but with the -20 mm sport suspension setup. Those cars are rare.
Thanks for your reply. Very much appreciated and informative. I see the subsequent on PASM in the S, was non-PASM an option then on the GTS? I wonder how many of the 100 odd UK manuals have this -20mm suspension.You can't move the engine from the middle of the car to the back and it not feel very different.
Most 997 will have PASM and it will feel soft in soft mode and then a bit too hard in Sport. Especially when compared to your CR with a firmer passive setup. I'm assuming the GTS uses the same PASM as the standard cars. If I was in the market for a 997 I'd go for one without PASM but with the -20 mm sport suspension setup. Those cars are rare.
Black (not Basalt)
Buckets
Manual
Extended leather
Center Lock wheels
Rear seats delete
-20mm suspension (non Pasm)
quite a needle in a haystack isn't it. It might not even exist.
julian987R said:
Thanks for your reply. Very much appreciated and informative. I see the subsequent on PASM in the S, was non-PASM an option then on the GTS? I wonder how many of the 100 odd UK manuals have this -20mm suspension.
Black (not Basalt)
Buckets
Manual
Extended leather
Center Lock wheels
Rear seats delete
-20mm suspension (non Pasm)
quite a needle in a haystack isn't it. It might not even exist.
How much of a difference does the non-PASM sport suspension make?Black (not Basalt)
Buckets
Manual
Extended leather
Center Lock wheels
Rear seats delete
-20mm suspension (non Pasm)
quite a needle in a haystack isn't it. It might not even exist.
Once you've got all that why not just go for a GT3, are they a step too far for road use?
julian987R said:
Tobermory said:
How much of a difference does the non-PASM sport suspension make?
Once you've got all that why not just go for a GT3, are they a step too far for road use?
You make a very good point..but when one is at that 100k+ bracket I think I’d rather go for a pukka classic. Once you've got all that why not just go for a GT3, are they a step too far for road use?
AyBee said:
julian987R said:
Tobermory said:
How much of a difference does the non-PASM sport suspension make?
Once you've got all that why not just go for a GT3, are they a step too far for road use?
You make a very good point..but when one is at that 100k+ bracket I think I’d rather go for a pukka classic. Once you've got all that why not just go for a GT3, are they a step too far for road use?
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