The 997 Appreciation Thread

The 997 Appreciation Thread

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So

26,353 posts

223 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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c4sman said:
Cheib said:
Interesting! I've got Bridgestone's on my GTS manual coupe....been wondering about a change and it's not a daily driver so Cup's could work!
Do it now!

I put up with my old tyres for way too long and only now realise what i was missing out on. They are quieter, better ride, more grip, more direct with less understeer. Car feels super agile and i have removed doing suspension mods from my wish list, the car just doesn't need it now.

Only downside is standing water aparently but my car rarely goes out if weather is really bad and if I do I would just slow down! I would probably go for Pilot Sport 4 next time as these are reportedly just as good on road with the benefit of great standing water performance, so would go that route if I were you.
I've a set of Cups on my spare set of wheels. I find them noisy but grippy.

c4sman

759 posts

155 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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So said:
I've a set of Cups on my spare set of wheels. I find them noisy but grippy.
Interesting, Cups are quieter than Pirelli's and Bridgestones I have tried?

Discombobulate

4,853 posts

187 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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c4sman said:
Interesting, Cups are quieter than Pirelli's and Bridgestones I have tried?
New cups are quite quiet but they get very noisy as they wear in my experience.

c4sman

759 posts

155 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Discombobulate said:
New cups are quite quiet but they get very noisy as they wear in my experience.
Mine are worn and 997's suffer from tyre roar, but definitely quieter on Cups than the pirellis and bridgestones with more tread I tried before. My ear might be tuned differently to most or i happen to have had old tyres that had hardened. Either way I'm a happy bunny biglaugh

RATATTAK

11,165 posts

190 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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pottman said:
RATATTAK said:
Agreed ... many thanks smile
Got mine from a Porsche OPC complete with new tyres, so a bit more expensive than £2,835, but not much I seem to remember.

hippy
Just bought these - not Fuchs but very nice ... IMO


http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod136183/19--Style...

pottman

320 posts

256 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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RATATTAK said:
Just bought these - not Fuchs but very nice ... IMO


http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod136183/19--Style...
Very nice. Pics needed I think.

hippy

Steve Rance

5,448 posts

232 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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jm doc said:
What a lovely lovely car Sir!

RATATTAK

11,165 posts

190 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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pottman said:
Very nice. Pics needed I think.

hippy
Your wish etc.


pottman

320 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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There's a lot of love for the 997 out there, though it's funny how much love is related to the type of wheels that are on the car.

Here's my old 997 C4S with the original wheels on.



But the sport classics are so much better - gratuitous shot here



And now I have my turbo there was never any option but to buy one with the centre locks (per jm doc above, but without the carbon ceramics).

I'm not a fan of lobster claws, but it does make me think about how sensitive the 997 is to the type of wheel that it sits upon.

hippy


Edited by pottman on Tuesday 10th October 18:19

c4sman

759 posts

155 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Right, I am gonna say it, I love 997 GTS/Turbo Centre Locks!

They look cool, are unusual and having done my first DIY removal and refit, they are not half as troublesome as some would have you believe. Lovely mechanism and reasonably quick compared to 5 stud as long as you have a monster torque wrench and mates for the brakes, (like wot I got). And yes I used the right grease and enjoyed every minute of it!

There, I have said it, I'll get my coat........

Fl0pp3r

859 posts

204 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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c4sman said:
Right, I am gonna say it, I love 997 GTS/Turbo Centre Locks!

They look cool, are unusual and having done my first DIY removal and refit, they are not half as troublesome as some would have you believe. Lovely mechanism and reasonably quick compared to 5 stud as long as you have a monster torque wrench and mates for the brakes, (like wot I got). And yes I used the right grease and enjoyed every minute of it!

There, I have said it, I'll get my coat........
Top effort geeza! I'm too scared....

Show us your wrench :-)

c4sman

759 posts

155 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Fl0pp3r said:
c4sman said:
Right, I am gonna say it, I love 997 GTS/Turbo Centre Locks!

They look cool, are unusual and having done my first DIY removal and refit, they are not half as troublesome as some would have you believe. Lovely mechanism and reasonably quick compared to 5 stud as long as you have a monster torque wrench and mates for the brakes, (like wot I got). And yes I used the right grease and enjoyed every minute of it!

There, I have said it, I'll get my coat........
Top effort geeza! I'm too scared....

Show us your wrench :-)
You asked for it! 1000 Newton Metres of British built pure joy biggrin

So

26,353 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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c4sman said:
Fl0pp3r said:
c4sman said:
Right, I am gonna say it, I love 997 GTS/Turbo Centre Locks!

They look cool, are unusual and having done my first DIY removal and refit, they are not half as troublesome as some would have you believe. Lovely mechanism and reasonably quick compared to 5 stud as long as you have a monster torque wrench and mates for the brakes, (like wot I got). And yes I used the right grease and enjoyed every minute of it!

There, I have said it, I'll get my coat........
Top effort geeza! I'm too scared....

Show us your wrench :-)
You asked for it! 1000 Newton Metres of British built pure joy biggrin
You don't need a mate for the brakes. You can wedge a piece of timber between the brake pedal and seat (with a towel on the seat to prevent marking).


Gustavo

24 posts

182 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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anonymous said:
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I wonder whether it was an option, or at least depended on the colour, because I'm sure the sills on some are body-coloured and not black. It's most obvious on red or yellow cars, although you really don't see many wide-bodied 997s in the brighter colours (which in itself is a shame) to conduct an exhaustive survey...

RATATTAK

11,165 posts

190 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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RATATTAK said:
pottman said:
Very nice. Pics needed I think.

hippy
Your wish etc.

and on the car



LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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So said:
c4sman said:
Fl0pp3r said:
c4sman said:
Right, I am gonna say it, I love 997 GTS/Turbo Centre Locks!

They look cool, are unusual and having done my first DIY removal and refit, they are not half as troublesome as some would have you believe. Lovely mechanism and reasonably quick compared to 5 stud as long as you have a monster torque wrench and mates for the brakes, (like wot I got). And yes I used the right grease and enjoyed every minute of it!

There, I have said it, I'll get my coat........
Top effort geeza! I'm too scared....

Show us your wrench :-)
Mate got a puncture on his GTS in the south of France. No OPC nearby and no garage with the requisite torque wrench in the area. Trip spoiled by flat tyre.

You asked for it! 1000 Newton Metres of British built pure joy biggrin
You don't need a mate for the brakes. You can wedge a piece of timber between the brake pedal and seat (with a towel on the seat to prevent marking).

So

26,353 posts

223 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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[quote]Mate got a puncture on his GTS in the south of France. No OPC nearby and no garage with the requisite torque wrench in the area. Trip spoiled by flat tyre.
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If I venture far afield I have a repair kit with me. No need to remove the wheel. If going abroad I would take my torque wrench.

c4sman

759 posts

155 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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I think any major flat tyre could spoil a holiday with a sports car with no spare, quite hard to get hold of a 305 19 inch tyre in the back of beyond. I also can't think of many tyre places that you wouldn't be able to get hold of a 1m breaker bar (or shorter one with an additional tube to give leverage) which is all that is required to do a temporary removal and refit of CL wheels. If that was the case and it worries you, bring one along, they cost under £50 for the good quality one that I used to break my CL nuts.

c4sman

759 posts

155 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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anonymous said:
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Really isn’t as bad as the interweb would have you believe. Don’t knock it til you’ve tried it.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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c4sman said:
I think any major flat tyre could spoil a holiday with a sports car with no spare, quite hard to get hold of a 305 19 inch tyre in the back of beyond. I also can't think of many tyre places that you wouldn't be able to get hold of a 1m breaker bar (or shorter one with an additional tube to give leverage) which is all that is required to do a temporary removal and refit of CL wheels. If that was the case and it worries you, bring one along, they cost under £50 for the good quality one that I used to break my CL nuts.
Yeah I get it isn't the end of the world, but travelling across europe and having to take your own massive torque wrench just in case is just plain silly.

What benefit do centre locks actually provide on a road car?