The 997 Appreciation Thread
Discussion
Talk me out of it! Had this for years (green one. Wrap. Black under). Hartech engine rebuild. Ohlins set up by Centre Gravity. C2S. Such a great car. Maybe it’s because I haven’t driven it over the winter but thinking about selling.
Buttons to run. Even my then 21 year old daughter (now 26) got added to the insurance for just £40. I imagine totally depreciation proof. Maybe I just actually need to wait for the sun to properly come out and drive it.
Keep thinking selling is right as so little recent use but I also know I’ll regret it. Blinking wonderful little thing.
crisp packet said:
Talk me out of it! Had this for years (green one. Wrap. Black under). Hartech engine rebuild. Ohlins set up by Centre Gravity. C2S. Such a great car. Maybe it’s because I haven’t driven it over the winter but thinking about selling.
Buttons to run. Even my then 21 year old daughter (now 26) got added to the insurance for just £40. I imagine totally depreciation proof. Maybe I just actually need to wait for the sun to properly come out and drive it.
Keep thinking selling is right as so little recent use but I also know I’ll regret it. Blinking wonderful little thing.
crisp packet said:
Talk me out of it! Had this for years (green one. Wrap. Black under). Hartech engine rebuild. Ohlins set up by Centre Gravity. C2S. Such a great car. Maybe it’s because I haven’t driven it over the winter but thinking about selling.
Buttons to run. Even my then 21 year old daughter (now 26) got added to the insurance for just £40. I imagine totally depreciation proof. Maybe I just actually need to wait for the sun to properly come out and drive it.
Keep thinking selling is right as so little recent use but I also know I’ll regret it. Blinking wonderful little thing.
Not driven because of work route. Been deep~ish water in one section over the whole of the winter. Taken the Cayenne and raised it over that part. Weekends have been mostly grim plus when not at work been at the farm getting stuff done.
Just had it serviced though and getting a couple of other bits done at the mo so hoping I’ll get to reconnect soon.
Had lots of sports cars before this. Various 996s and 7s inc TT7.1, R35 GTR, integrales (3), 5 M3s inc supercharged e90 and I’ve liked this most. Really interactive. Couple of mods so makes a great noise, amazing handling, not so fast that you can’t enjoy singing through the rev range.
You’ve got me talking myself back into it now. Longest I’ve owned a car I think. Probs just need to get my bum in the seat more.
Interesting that there’s been quite a lot of talk on forums about preference of 997s over 991s and 2s. Makes 7s a bit of a bargain. Old enough yet young enough. Great cars.
Just had it serviced though and getting a couple of other bits done at the mo so hoping I’ll get to reconnect soon.
Had lots of sports cars before this. Various 996s and 7s inc TT7.1, R35 GTR, integrales (3), 5 M3s inc supercharged e90 and I’ve liked this most. Really interactive. Couple of mods so makes a great noise, amazing handling, not so fast that you can’t enjoy singing through the rev range.
You’ve got me talking myself back into it now. Longest I’ve owned a car I think. Probs just need to get my bum in the seat more.
Interesting that there’s been quite a lot of talk on forums about preference of 997s over 991s and 2s. Makes 7s a bit of a bargain. Old enough yet young enough. Great cars.
All,
thanks very much for your feedback and advice.
It's a tough call, but on balance, my preference is still a 997.
Yes, the 991's probably a better car technically and there are more to choose from, but the 997 for me wins on smaller size, fewer electrics (hopefully less to to go wrong, most of the depreciation built into prices, prettier? (yes - subjective, I know).
We don't live in a city so stop/start driving with a manual transmission will be a rare event.
The funds I've earmarked for the purchase won't be available until around October time, so won't be searching in earnest for a few months yet.
However, if I see the right car advertised that ticks all of the boxes, I do have a plan B that enables me to purchase earlier.
I'll keep you all posted.
Cheers
thanks very much for your feedback and advice.
It's a tough call, but on balance, my preference is still a 997.
Yes, the 991's probably a better car technically and there are more to choose from, but the 997 for me wins on smaller size, fewer electrics (hopefully less to to go wrong, most of the depreciation built into prices, prettier? (yes - subjective, I know).
We don't live in a city so stop/start driving with a manual transmission will be a rare event.
The funds I've earmarked for the purchase won't be available until around October time, so won't be searching in earnest for a few months yet.
However, if I see the right car advertised that ticks all of the boxes, I do have a plan B that enables me to purchase earlier.
I'll keep you all posted.
Cheers
GTRene said:
ATM said:
thats cheap, such engine 4.1 alone cost a little fortune.3.8 Hartech to only cylinders - 3 4 5 6
Manual
C4S
Cab
2005
16 grand currently - auction
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176284361231
Manual
C4S
Cab
2005
16 grand currently - auction
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176284361231
ATM said:
Nurburgsingh said:
ATM said:
3.8 Hartech to only cylinders - 3 4 5 6
Manual
C4S
Cab
2005
16 grand currently - auction
Genuine question - why wouldn't all of the cylinders be done? Manual
C4S
Cab
2005
16 grand currently - auction
Man maths doesn’t come into it, if you’ve bought cheap, had a loan to buy it, you aren’t using the car, it’s already proven to be a money pit, the wife hates it (the money you bought it with was going to be the new kitchen you promised her) and you just want shot of it to avert an imminent divorce …
“That” phonecall would have gone along the lines of “Well do the others need replacing, I’m going to have to sell the car now, so just do what is needed to get it running and make it saleable”.
I imagine Hartech and others must have had that conversation many times over the past ?? years.
“That” phonecall would have gone along the lines of “Well do the others need replacing, I’m going to have to sell the car now, so just do what is needed to get it running and make it saleable”.
I imagine Hartech and others must have had that conversation many times over the past ?? years.
I think common sense and being realistic also comes to play here. I mean, if half the engine is not susceptible to bore score why spend the money on future proofing something that has a very small chance of actually occuring?
Anyone know what the incremental cost of lining 1 extra cylinder is?
If/when mine is scored I will think very carefully about whether to do all 6 or onlly the weak 3. Suppose it will depend on other circumstances at the time as well, as highlighted above.
RiccardoG said:
Anyone know what the incremental cost of lining 1 extra cylinder is?
Good question. I think their menu pricing talked about machining the block with all 6 for 2950 from memory. You can check their website. What confused me was their 'performance' pistons are sold as a set of 6. I still dont know if you can reuse the old pistons. If a piston has been scraping on the bore and scoring then I'd assume not.
ATM said:
RiccardoG said:
Anyone know what the incremental cost of lining 1 extra cylinder is?
Good question. I think their menu pricing talked about machining the block with all 6 for 2950 from memory. You can check their website. What confused me was their 'performance' pistons are sold as a set of 6. I still dont know if you can reuse the old pistons. If a piston has been scraping on the bore and scoring then I'd assume not.
From their website as of March 2024 (with disclaimer regarding fluctuating parts prices).
So potentially only £550 saved
Filibuster said:
From their website as of March 2024 (with disclaimer regarding fluctuating parts prices).
So potentially only £550 saved
I see one bank vs two banks difference £1200+VAT (£1440). I suppose you always need to do the one bank as a logical minimum, then add 1, 2 or 3 on the other side depending on risk apetite / budget.
But yes, even the whole extra bank adds just 10~20%, so you probably would.
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