The 997 Appreciation Thread
Discussion
ATM said:
That's crazy money, nice car but not 90k nice. 
Looks lovely but for me it's simply not a £90k car. It's special enough to command an upgrade over a well specced 997.2, but that's for me more a £60-70k car.
I'd still choose a low miles 997.2 C2 and personalise it with nicer wheels, better suspension and a few personal tweaks and not care about depreciation every time I drive it
I'd still choose a low miles 997.2 C2 and personalise it with nicer wheels, better suspension and a few personal tweaks and not care about depreciation every time I drive it
When I started this thread over 6 years ago, I intended to create a thread to celebrate what great of a car the 997 is.
Unfortunately, almost every post has become a discussion about prices and/or bore scoring
A manual Carrera 2 GTS is the epitome of the 997 generation. And a good spec with low miles like the one posted by ATM car will always comm and a high price. IMHO, a manual C2 is all the 997 you ever need, seems he thinks so too
Unfortunately, almost every post has become a discussion about prices and/or bore scoring
A manual Carrera 2 GTS is the epitome of the 997 generation. And a good spec with low miles like the one posted by ATM car will always comm and a high price. IMHO, a manual C2 is all the 997 you ever need, seems he thinks so too
Filibuster said:
Unfortunately, almost every post has become a discussion about prices ....
Its very difficult to discuss any car and its qualities [or short comings] without including price [or ongoing costs]. If the car was brilliant and cheap we would all have one. So it all comes down to money unfortunately. Adrian-9iafn said:
Looks lovely but for me it's simply not a £90k car. It's special enough to command an upgrade over a well specced 997.2, but that's for me more a £60-70k car.
I'd still choose a low miles 997.2 C2 and personalise it with nicer wheels, better suspension and a few personal tweaks and not care about depreciation every time I drive it
You are effectively paying for the 997.2 C2 manual GTS's rarity now, and in this case it's double whammy, because it's a low mileage example also.I'd still choose a low miles 997.2 C2 and personalise it with nicer wheels, better suspension and a few personal tweaks and not care about depreciation every time I drive it
If you want a non-GT car 997, which as we know is popular because it's more analogue than the cars that followed, along with a manual gearbox and rear wheel drive and a factory 400+ horsepower, your choices are somewhat limited though.
But you're right, a sensible mileage 997.2 C2 S manual with some well thought out mods, ie cherry picked from RPM Technik's CSR catalogue, would be a far more cost effective solution, and would in many cases make for a better car.
I drove this a couple of years ago :
https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/porsche-sales/vehicle/997...
It was an excellent upgrade over a stock 997.2 S, and really opened my eyes as to what could be done to a 997.2 without introducing any unwanted compromises.
I should have bought this last December, but I'd just moved house and the timing wasn't ideal ... :
https://www.classic.com/veh/2010-porsche-911-9972-...
Filibuster said:
When I started this thread over 6 years ago, I intended to create a thread to celebrate what great of a car the 997 is.
Unfortunately, almost every post has become a discussion about prices and/or bore scoring
It’s one thread I always open if there’s anything showing as a recent post, so thanks for starting it.Unfortunately, almost every post has become a discussion about prices and/or bore scoring
Filibuster said:
ATM said:
There is this X51 997.1
Looks rough and well used... But that X51 airbox is so damn sexy 
I can't believe there has not been a reproduction in normal plastic with today 3D printing possibilities. I guess this would be a huge success.
Also look past it - if you can - to the Massive alloy inlet and plenum thingie. Without both you have just apple pie without the custard.
ATM said:
Exactly why I added that pic. If any car needs a perspex bonnet, this is it.
Also look past it - if you can - to the Massive alloy inlet and plenum thingie. Without both you have just apple pie without the custard.
Or Britney without Pamela doing her thing to use your parlance …Also look past it - if you can - to the Massive alloy inlet and plenum thingie. Without both you have just apple pie without the custard.
Flat6Innovations in the States now make them. Not cheap mind :
https://lnengineering.com/flat-6-innovations-porsc...
ATM said:
That does look bleedin lovely but just to echo previous comments, you have to REALLY want a GTS to justify that price. This is my C2S manual which might be worth half of the £90k GTS price. Not that it’s for sale
Any excuse for a pic
The one thing everyone fails to mention about the 997 GTS and I'm always surprised by it is the wider rear arches. Once you're used to them a standard body doesn't come close.
I came very, very close to buying a 997 GT3 before my 996 but there was something niggling about it's looks (I'm shallow like that). Once I'd figured it out, it was because I'm used to looking at an RS' rear haunches. The 997 is a very pretty car, more so than a 996 but without the back end it's like seeing a beautiful woman before noticing she has a flat arse!
The GTS has all the shape and it makes such a difference.
I came very, very close to buying a 997 GT3 before my 996 but there was something niggling about it's looks (I'm shallow like that). Once I'd figured it out, it was because I'm used to looking at an RS' rear haunches. The 997 is a very pretty car, more so than a 996 but without the back end it's like seeing a beautiful woman before noticing she has a flat arse!
The GTS has all the shape and it makes such a difference.
I know it’s a replica as such but I thought this looked well, fair service gap tbf but looks the part.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...
Youforreal. said:
I know it’s a replica as such but I thought this looked well, fair service gap tbf but looks the part.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...
Im assuming using Evocation instead of replica is like when estate agents call a 12 floor flat an a Apartment? https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...
hungry_hog said:
Seems 991.1 and 997 are now overlapping quite heavily
That GTS above is more expensive than both 991.1 and 991.2 GTS
People really love the 997!
Must be the same price as a 997 GT3. Thing is, the only advantage of a GTS to a GT3 (aside from styling if you wanted subtle) is that a GTS comes in auto (perfect for lazy gits like me). A manual GTS for the price of a GT3? Well, if I have to waggle a stick about, I might as well get the GT3. Unless I had 2 small kids that I needed ferrying about.That GTS above is more expensive than both 991.1 and 991.2 GTS
People really love the 997!
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