The 997 Appreciation Thread

The 997 Appreciation Thread

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CardinalFang

640 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th April
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PRO5T said:
The one thing everyone fails to mention about the 997 GTS and I'm always surprised by it is the wider rear arches. Once you're used to them a standard body doesn't come close.
Does no one do a wide body conversion kit? GTS (would have to be pdk) would be my ideal retirement present, but, so far, the slush fund isn’t keeping pace with prices.
I could Google, but in the interests of keeping the discussion going…

CF



Slippydiff

14,835 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th April
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CardinalFang said:
Does no one do a wide body conversion kit? GTS (would have to be pdk) would be my ideal retirement present, but, so far, the slush fund isn’t keeping pace with prices.
I could Google, but in the interests of keeping the discussion going…

CF
Narrowbody C2 S converted to widebody using factory steel parts can be found here :

https://911uk.com/threads/c4-stripped-for-colour-c...

Slippydiff

14,835 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th April
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freedman said:
Bar being a manual, which is better for some, but not all, the black cars is a far better spec than the Silver one
Far better spec ? Not as a driver's car.

As stated, the silver car is a manual (which for a driver's spec car makes it hands down the better choice compared with the black car) it has a factory PSE, not an aftermarket item (excellent though the Akropovic exhausts are) it has the DLS headlights, no sunroof, no ugly and incongruous rear wiper, no pointless and ugly Sport Chrono clock on the dash top (you have to have Sport Chrono Plus with the Peter Kaye transmission, otherwise it's a hopeless 'box, and in my experience, it's only marginally less hopeless with the SCP) Michelin tyres, undamaged hardback to passenger seat, undamaged center console finish, 6k miles less, stunning carbon trim, and it's silver, which is a far more practical colour.

Your opinion may differ, and that's fine, but let's not kid ourselves that the black car is a "better" spec.



Edited by Slippydiff on Thursday 11th April 11:28

EBRANDON1

134 posts

4 months

Thursday 11th April
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I've been looking at potentially getting a 997 and this looks pretty tempting. I can't quite decide whether its a bit too modified but suppose seeing it in person will help.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404068...

Maybe with some Carrera II or Carrera classic wheels which are my favourite.

But I don't even know if I should be looking at 997s at all or be looking at more sensible practical newer cars for the money like a C43 or something. But this feels more cool.

Hoofy

76,371 posts

282 months

Thursday 11th April
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EBRANDON1 said:
I've been looking at potentially getting a 997 and this looks pretty tempting. I can't quite decide whether its a bit too modified but suppose seeing it in person will help.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404068...

Maybe with some Carrera II or Carrera classic wheels which are my favourite.

But I don't even know if I should be looking at 997s at all or be looking at more sensible practical newer cars for the money like a C43 or something. But this feels more cool.
It will put off some buyers. Depends on how much you value your money when it comes to sell it. If you're willing to take a bit of a hit if there's no interest and you use it as part-ex then it isn't an issue.

As for this or a C43, you'll have to drive both. I suspect the 997 will be more interesting to drive. A C43 might outgun it at the lights but the 997 should be more involving and when you're stuck behind a slow driver doing 40 in a 60 on a twisting road, you will probably enjoy the drive more in the Porsche, whereas in the C43, you'll feel like you're just being held up.

EBRANDON1

134 posts

4 months

Thursday 11th April
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Hoofy said:
It will put off some buyers. Depends on how much you value your money when it comes to sell it. If you're willing to take a bit of a hit if there's no interest and you use it as part-ex then it isn't an issue.

As for this or a C43, you'll have to drive both. I suspect the 997 will be more interesting to drive. A C43 might outgun it at the lights but the 997 should be more involving and when you're stuck behind a slow driver doing 40 in a 60 on a twisting road, you will probably enjoy the drive more in the Porsche, whereas in the C43, you'll feel like you're just being held up.
Yes good point thanks. I used to be slightly more concerned on acceleration but now that there's cars like that new electric MG family hatchback thing that can do 0-60 in whatever crazy time it doesn't bother me as much being slightly slower off the lights.

Hoofy

76,371 posts

282 months

Thursday 11th April
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EBRANDON1 said:
Hoofy said:
It will put off some buyers. Depends on how much you value your money when it comes to sell it. If you're willing to take a bit of a hit if there's no interest and you use it as part-ex then it isn't an issue.

As for this or a C43, you'll have to drive both. I suspect the 997 will be more interesting to drive. A C43 might outgun it at the lights but the 997 should be more involving and when you're stuck behind a slow driver doing 40 in a 60 on a twisting road, you will probably enjoy the drive more in the Porsche, whereas in the C43, you'll feel like you're just being held up.
Yes good point thanks. I used to be slightly more concerned on acceleration but now that there's cars like that new electric MG family hatchback thing that can do 0-60 in whatever crazy time it doesn't bother me as much being slightly slower off the lights.
Yes, exactly. I've got a 996 Turbo and it can give me the accelerative thrill when I want but 99% of the time, just pootling about at normal speeds, it feels more interesting than my old Mercedes (plural - have had a 180k, a 220CDI and a 55AMG; all were comfy and had varying degrees of performance (or not!) but none were very interesting to drive when just popping to the shops in 20, 30 or 40 zones). I think the problem with many very modern family cars is that the emphasis is on comfort and convenience (read: boring) rather than driving experience. And you only realise this when it's missing. It's why despite wanting to try a different car, I daren't change from my 996 in case I make an expensive mistake. I've made it before when I went from a TVR Chimaera to a Nissan Skyline GTR (much quicker but lacked something).

freedman

5,417 posts

207 months

Terry Winks

1,189 posts

13 months

Monday 15th April
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Be really interesting to see what that goes for, although I'd be out paying a premium for it as no engine rebuild.

maz8062

2,245 posts

215 months

Monday 15th April
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Terry Winks said:
Be really interesting to see what that goes for, although I'd be out paying a premium for it as no engine rebuild.
Although a great car with tasteful mods, as it is not a named manufacturer spec the insurance will be through the roof if the mods are declared. Mine went from £550 to £2200 with the mods declared.

ATM

18,295 posts

219 months

Monday 15th April
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maz8062 said:
Although a great car with tasteful mods, as it is not a named manufacturer spec the insurance will be through the roof if the mods are declared. Mine went from £550 to £2200 with the mods declared.
My 996 CSR is way less on an agreed value classic policy.

Slippydiff

14,835 posts

223 months

Monday 15th April
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maz8062 said:
Although a great car with tasteful mods, as it is not a named manufacturer spec the insurance will be through the roof if the mods are declared. Mine went from £550 to £2200 with the mods declared.
Change your broker or insurance provider …

GTRene

16,567 posts

224 months

Monday 15th April
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just came across this car ad, I love this sort interior from a 997.2 GT3 all alcantara, from dash to doorboards to seats to? I like such, so much better then a plastic dash.


740EVTORQUES

359 posts

1 month

Tuesday 16th April
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It was too wet to drive my track car yesterday so I took my 997.1 C2s to Silverstone for a track day for the first time.

Wow, what a thing! That a nearly 20 year old Porsche can stand up to lapping the GP circuit without anything more than a quick check on fluids, wheel bolt torque and tyre pressures is a testament to engineering. I kept it to 5-6 laps at a time to save the brakes and they remained strong throughout.

The car was set up some time ago by Chris at Center Gravity and handled beautifully, so neutral and easy to finesse on the limit of grip, and the sound of that early engine really being wrung out in a way you can’t easily do on road safely is addictive.

I’ve got a GT3 itch now!

Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Tuesday 16th April 15:58

Filibuster

Original Poster:

3,157 posts

215 months

Tuesday 16th April
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ATM said:
maz8062 said:
Although a great car with tasteful mods, as it is not a named manufacturer spec the insurance will be through the roof if the mods are declared. Mine went from £550 to £2200 with the mods declared.
My 996 CSR is way less on an agreed value classic policy.
My standard 997 is on an agreed value classic policy as well. Very reasonable. People don't tend to crash their cherished classic cars, hence they are rather inexpensive.

Filibuster

Original Poster:

3,157 posts

215 months

Tuesday 16th April
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740EVTORQUES said:
It was too wet to drive my track car yesterday so I took my 997.1 C2s to Silverstone for a track day for the first time.

Wow, what a thing! That a nearly 20 year old Porsche can stand up to lapping the GP circuit without anything more than a quick check on fluids, wheel bolt torque and tyre pressures is a testament to engineering. I kept it to 5-6 laps at a time to save the brakes and they remained strong throughout.

The car was set up some time ago by Chris at Center Gravity and handled beautifully, so neutral and easy to finesse on the limit of grip, and the sound of that early engine really bring wrung out in a way you can’t easily do on road safely is addictive.

I’ve got a GT3 itch now!
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ATM

18,295 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th April
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Filibuster said:
People don't tend to crash their cherished classic cars.
Very brave of you to state this on a public internet forum. I hope you have not jinxed it, for yourself.

freedman

5,417 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th April
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This looks like a decent deal at £27k inc fees?

Only 60,000 miles, with a Hartech rebuild only 7,000 ago

https://carsonline.bonhams.com/en/listings/porsche...


GTRene

16,567 posts

224 months

Thursday 18th April
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sounds like a good deal for someone.

740EVTORQUES

359 posts

1 month

Thursday 18th April
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It’s pretty shocking how relatively cheap 997s are. Having spent the day on track on Monday in mine, I think they’re a performance bargain!