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2010spy said:
Has anyone seen EVO magazines review of the GT3 Touring this month. It’s really poor. It’s lazy. I’ve been an avid EVO fan since the early days, but it’s getting really bad. I’m considering cancelling my subscription.
I've been pretty vocal about my disappointment with Evo over the last couple of months, I mean they've been really poor to the point of almost self destruction.But what else can they do about the car? It's simply a manual GT3, it can't possibly drive any different to the normal car can it-it's just an option code to be ticked. You wouldn't expect a four page review of a normal car but fitted with the leather interior option in addition to the other would you?
Apart from that, I understand your thoughts about cancelling brother, my goodness it's gotten poor.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I've been pretty vocal about my disappointment with Evo over the last couple of months, I mean they've been really poor to the point of almost self destruction.
But what else can they do about the car? It's simply a manual GT3, it can't possibly drive any different to the normal car can it-it's just an option code to be ticked. You wouldn't expect a four page review of a normal car but fitted with the leather interior option in addition to the other would you?
Apart from that, I understand your thoughts about cancelling brother, my goodness it's gotten poor.
In the old days, EVO would probably have got the GT3 Touring, alongside a 911R, and probably then even got a old school RS Touring as a good excuse to do a feature in the swiss alps, driving all three and providing some great editorial content and amazing pictures. To me it looks like the 'talent' has left and/or they are running out of money. But what else can they do about the car? It's simply a manual GT3, it can't possibly drive any different to the normal car can it-it's just an option code to be ticked. You wouldn't expect a four page review of a normal car but fitted with the leather interior option in addition to the other would you?
Apart from that, I understand your thoughts about cancelling brother, my goodness it's gotten poor.
2010spy said:
In the old days, EVO would probably have got the GT3 Touring, alongside a 911R, and probably then even got a old school RS Touring as a good excuse to do a feature in the swiss alps, driving all three and providing some great editorial content and amazing pictures. To me it looks like the 'talent' has left and/or they are running out of money.
Agree, the article read as if Adam Towler hadn’t even driven the car. Yes, it’s entirely correct to say the Touring is the same as the standard manual GT3 ‘sans’ a rear wing, but as far as i am aware EVO haven’t actually reviewed a manual GT3 yet, as the first drive article earlier last year and a few months ago’s ‘heroes’ comparison with a 996 GT3 were both PDK equiped cars. Together with the very luke warm T review, It reads almost like EVO have had a falling out with Porsche PR dept ! Anyway, whatever, I wasn’t expecting much given how off the boil the magazine has gone over the last couple of years.Sad indeed. EVO used to be the benchmark in motoring journalism for me. It has degraded to a level where I have the suspicion the only staff that's left is the photographer and the articles are primarly press statements with some smallish AI editing.
I'd happily pay double or triple the subscription price if they brought the old level of quality back
I'd happily pay double or triple the subscription price if they brought the old level of quality back
2010spy said:
Has anyone seen EVO magazines review of the GT3 Touring this month. It’s really poor. It’s lazy. I’ve been an avid EVO fan since the early days, but it’s getting really bad. I’m considering cancelling my subscription.
Its not the mag it used to be for sure. I cancelled last year...Fokker said:
2010spy said:
Has anyone seen EVO magazines review of the GT3 Touring this month. It’s really poor. It’s lazy. I’ve been an avid EVO fan since the early days, but it’s getting really bad. I’m considering cancelling my subscription.
Its not the mag it used to be for sure. I cancelled last year...Double gauche said:
At the risk of being vilified in a gt3 touring thread- I thought their piece was pretty reasonable. Porsche could have done more with the touring as a model.
perhaps, yes, but what ? if one looks back at previous Tourings ('72 2.7 RS and '91 964 RS) the differences were fairly minor. extra sound proofing, extra optional equipment (sunroof, leccy windows etc), rear seats, but identical mechanicals though. it's only the rear seats that Porsche could have done that they did not, without a howl of derision, and perhaps that was not feasible due to German homologation regs (I don't know of course). it's just an option code, my point regarding the EVO article was that I thought the review rather pointless and negative, as frankly it would have been an opportunity to highlight the differences between a PDK and manual GT3.
perhaps EVO are trying to reconnect with a large element of their readership who are sick of Porsche's being the best car available except that limited supply frustrates so many people who'd like a GT2/3/4 etc and can't get one, which is understandable.
MartinRS2K said:
Cheib said:
MartinRS2K said:
My car has arrived at the port in Germany waiting for its ferry to the U.K.
Should be at the dealer in the next 2 weeks
You must be rather excited! Should be at the dealer in the next 2 weeks
When I was told I had a build slot I was very,very excited
Not really sure what the two weeks leading up to delivery will be like!
Actually how they told me I had an allocation was pretty good. We were picking up my wife's Boxster before Xmas, she got given a very nice Jo Malone gift and then I got given a small box to open. Inside was a model of a 991.2 GT3
seawise said:
perhaps, yes, but what ? if one looks back at previous Tourings ('72 2.7 RS and '91 964 RS) the differences were fairly minor. extra sound proofing, extra optional equipment (sunroof, leccy windows etc), rear seats, but identical mechanicals though. it's only the rear seats that Porsche could have done that they did not, without a howl of derision, and perhaps that was not feasible due to German homologation regs (I don't know of course).
it's just an option code, my point regarding the EVO article was that I thought the review rather pointless and negative, as frankly it would have been an opportunity to highlight the differences between a PDK and manual GT3.
perhaps EVO are trying to reconnect with a large element of their readership who are sick of Porsche's being the best car available except that limited supply frustrates so many people who'd like a GT2/3/4 etc and can't get one, which is understandable.
Rear seats for one it's just an option code, my point regarding the EVO article was that I thought the review rather pointless and negative, as frankly it would have been an opportunity to highlight the differences between a PDK and manual GT3.
perhaps EVO are trying to reconnect with a large element of their readership who are sick of Porsche's being the best car available except that limited supply frustrates so many people who'd like a GT2/3/4 etc and can't get one, which is understandable.
I guess could they have taken the car closer to the R rather than just a bewinged gt3.
Make it better for , I don’t know - touring? !!
Cheib said:
When I was first asked to place a deposit last March and told I might get a 2018 car....I was very excited
When I was told I had a build slot I was very,very excited
Not really sure what the two weeks leading up to delivery will be like!
Actually how they told me I had an allocation was pretty good. We were picking up my wife's Boxster before Xmas, she got given a very nice Jo Malone gift and then I got given a small box to open. Inside was a model of a 991.2 GT3
That's a great touch! I'm looking forward to seeing a model of a 918.2 when I pick up my Touring!When I was told I had a build slot I was very,very excited
Not really sure what the two weeks leading up to delivery will be like!
Actually how they told me I had an allocation was pretty good. We were picking up my wife's Boxster before Xmas, she got given a very nice Jo Malone gift and then I got given a small box to open. Inside was a model of a 991.2 GT3
anonymous said:
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yep, i feel your pain. the first 911 i ever had any proper seat time in was my brothers '89 3.2 Clubsport. what a wonderful car that was, halcyon days. but such is progress, and todays buyer/legislator wants all the deadweight that Porsche used to throw out to create a drivers focused model.
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